Re: GOP2: 2 - Stable releases and roadmap (radical change)

2012-07-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, Keith, somehow i had overlooked this part of your email: On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Keith OHara wrote: > For any changed test then, it is probably worth reading the header, to > see if a subtle change that looks harmless happens to be the point of > the test (and would presumably cause

Re: GOP2: 2 - Stable releases and roadmap (radical change)

2012-07-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 05:48:48PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Graham Percival >> wrote: >> > To avoid slowing down programming to a crawl, I figure that we’ll >> > identify some subset of these regtest

Re: GOP2: 2 - Stable releases and roadmap (radical change)

2012-07-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 05:48:48PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Graham Percival > wrote: > > To avoid slowing down programming to a crawl, I figure that we’ll > > identify some subset of these regtests and have a separate make > > regtests-quick command which onl

Re: GOP2: 2 - Stable releases and roadmap (radical change)

2012-07-11 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 6:07 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > Janek Warchoł writes: > >> What about something like this: >> when a regression against latest stable is found, it's not marked as >> critical (as Graham suggests). However, when we make a stable >> release, all regressions present in the t

Re: GOP2: 2 - Stable releases and roadmap (radical change)

2012-07-11 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł writes: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Trevor Daniels > wrote: >> So far there have been c. 75 critical regressions under the >> current definition of 'critical' since 2.14. All but one have been >> fixed, many of them promptly. This prompt attention IMO >> is due only to t

Re: GOP2: 2 - Stable releases and roadmap (radical change)

2012-07-11 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi All, Graham, first, let me apologise for not responding promptly. Secondly, here's my reply to Graham's almost-original proposition; i'll send a reply to current discussion ("Clear policy discussions") separately. On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > Let’s drop the “any

Re: GOP2: 2 - Stable releases and roadmap (radical change)

2012-06-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 05:33:47AM +, Keith OHara wrote: > Graham Percival percival-music.ca> writes: > > -any regression test which fails to compile or shows incorrect > > output. > > For any changed test then, it is probably worth reading the header, to > see if a subtle change that l

Re: GOP2: 2 - Stable releases and roadmap (radical change)

2012-06-26 Thread Keith OHara
Graham Percival percival-music.ca> writes: > > Let’s drop the “any unintended change” thing, and go totally with > the regression tests. Tests pass? We can make a stable release. I don't know. Maybe that would be alright. I'm not sure. The 'Regression' label would be come more important, becau

GOP2: 2 - Stable releases and roadmap (radical change)

2012-06-26 Thread Graham Percival
Not quite up to the ideal standard of GOP proposals, but there's a lot of interest and this should be enough to see what way the wind is blowing. html-formatted version: http://lilypond.org/~graham/gop/gop_3.html *** Summary Let’s drop the “any unintended change” thing, and go totally with the