Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS (final)

2012-08-10 Thread David Kastrup
Joseph Rushton Wakeling writes: > On 10/08/12 02:23, David Kastrup wrote: >> It would have been 3+2/8 at any rate since throwing parens into the >> token syntax would have further messed up the ambiguities, and forms >> like 3/2+2/5 would not likely have worked. > > Could it improve matters to ha

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS (final)

2012-08-10 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 10/08/12 02:23, David Kastrup wrote: It would have been 3+2/8 at any rate since throwing parens into the token syntax would have further messed up the ambiguities, and forms like 3/2+2/5 would not likely have worked. Could it improve matters to have instead something like, 3:2 + 2:5 ...

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS (final)

2012-08-10 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 11:07 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > It would mean that 3/2+2/5 would mean #((3 2) (2 5)) basically wherever > you chose to write it. Since we don't have a use for it anywhere except > after \time (and it is actually a rather uncommon use of time), it seems > like overkill. >

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS (final)

2012-08-10 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł writes: > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:23 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >> Janek Warchoł writes: >>> Sorry, i don't understand. You mean that you know how to do this, but >>> there's something else blocking you from implementing it? >> >> If two different things are indistinguishable, yo

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS (final)

2012-08-10 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:23 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > Janek Warchoł writes: >> Sorry, i don't understand. You mean that you know how to do this, but >> there's something else blocking you from implementing it? > > If two different things are indistinguishable, you can't have them both. > > If

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS (final)

2012-08-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Thursday, August 09, 2012 10:05 AM > Not much discussion after the mid-way point. I'm not certain if > this means that everybody agrees, or they just think I'm > completely wrong and it's not worth even discussing it (as > happened with the first proposal for stable releas

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS (final)

2012-08-09 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł writes: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 8:07 PM, David Kastrup wrote: >> Graham Percival writes: >> >>> In general, yes. But some aspects of our syntax haven't been >>> around for a long time -- footnotes, woodwind fingering, compound >>> meters, etc. Do we have the best syntax for th

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS (final)

2012-08-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
Dear Team, sorry for a late answer - it took some time to formulate my thoughts. First, a quite obvious remark: keeping old binaries isn't a solution to syntax problems at all, because they may not run on new platforms and don't contain new features and bugfixes. As for convert-ly, i'm not oppos

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS (final)

2012-08-09 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 12:46:41PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > > On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 12:09:51PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > >> \tempo syntax is quite an abomination. It is one of those things that > >> regularly cause parser changes to trip up. > > > > \times

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS (final)

2012-08-09 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 12:09:51PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: >> "m...@mikesolomon.org" writes: >> >> > I'd sent out a note of agreement before but I'll send out another one >> > just to signal that I'm 100% for incrementally freezing parts of >> > LilyPond's syntax.

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS (final)

2012-08-09 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 12:09:51PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > "m...@mikesolomon.org" writes: > > > I'd sent out a note of agreement before but I'll send out another one > > just to signal that I'm 100% for incrementally freezing parts of > > LilyPond's syntax. Specifically, I'm comfortable say

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS (final)

2012-08-09 Thread David Kastrup
"m...@mikesolomon.org" writes: > On 9 août 2012, at 11:05, Graham Percival wrote: >> \version "2.16.0" >> \score { >> \new Staff { >>\new Voice { >> \relative c, { >>\clef "bass" >>\time 3/4 >>\tempo "Andante" 4 = 120 >>c2\mp e8 c' | >>g'2. | >>

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS (final)

2012-08-09 Thread Bernard Hurley
On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 10:05:14AM +0100, Graham Percival wrote: > > > ** Subset for first phase > > In greater detail: I’m suggesting that we have multiple rounds of > syntax stabilization. The proposed elements of current lilypond > notation which we will stabilize is captured by these two fil

Re: GOP2-3 - GLISS (final)

2012-08-09 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 9 août 2012, at 11:05, Graham Percival wrote: > Not much discussion after the mid-way point. I'm not certain if > this means that everybody agrees, or they just think I'm > completely wrong and it's not worth even discussing it (as > happened with the first proposal for stable release handli

GOP2-3 - GLISS (final)

2012-08-09 Thread Graham Percival
Not much discussion after the mid-way point. I'm not certain if this means that everybody agrees, or they just think I'm completely wrong and it's not worth even discussing it (as happened with the first proposal for stable release handling). http://lilypond.org/~graham/gop/gop_4.html ** Summary