Re: Issue 1294 - Lyric ties

2011-02-13 Thread Bernard Hurley
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 03:08:11AM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: Lyric ties are essential for vocal music in Spanish because of the high percentage of the Spanish-language words that end in a vowel. Also, multiple-syllable words are much more common in Spanish, which makes notes that share

Re: Issue 1294 - Lyric ties

2011-02-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Lyric ties are essential for vocal music in Spanish because of the high percentage of the Spanish-language words that end in a vowel. Also, multiple-syllable words are much more common in Spanish, which makes notes that share more than one syllable a common case. Come to think of it, they

Issue 1294 - Lyric ties

2011-02-12 Thread Phil Holmes
I'm checking some of the lyric-based issues in case they've been fixed in the latest release, and came back across http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1294 which reported that Lyric ties do not work in 2.13. It was added as a regression, then downgraded for reasons that aren't

Re: Issue 1294 - Lyric ties

2011-02-12 Thread Phil Holmes
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote in message news:ij6hb2$65o$1...@dough.gmane.org... I'm checking some of the lyric-based issues in case they've been fixed in the latest release, and came back across http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1294 which reported that Lyric ties do

Re: Issue 1294 - Lyric ties

2011-02-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 05:51:27PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: which reported that Lyric ties do not work in 2.13. It was added as a regression, then downgraded for reasons that aren't entirely clear to me except that the reasons for it aren't clearly understood. What's not to understand? In

Re: Issue 1294 - Lyric ties

2011-02-12 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: I'm checking some of the lyric-based issues in case they've been fixed in the latest release, and came back across http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1294 [snip] {  \time 3/4  \relative c' { c2 e4 g2

Re: Issue 1294 - Lyric ties

2011-02-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 12:23:51PM -0800, Patrick McCarty wrote: However... I'm almost certain that this is an issue with the build system. Do we really want to block 2.13 for a font-related build system regression? There are other build system regressions, notably when we bumped Pango from

Re: Issue 1294 - Lyric ties

2011-02-12 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: We have two ways of making it not a Critical issue: 1) make the output the same.  If that means fiddling with the release-2.14 branch of GUB, fine.  If that means changing stuff in lilypond git, fine.  If that

Re: Issue 1294 - Lyric ties

2011-02-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 01:32:21PM -0800, Patrick McCarty wrote: On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: We have two ways of making it not a Critical issue: 1) make the output the same.  If that means fiddling with the 2) metaphorically look our

Re: Issue 1294 - Lyric ties

2011-02-12 Thread Bernard Hurley
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 09:04:23PM +, Graham Percival wrote: We have two ways of making it not a Critical issue: 2) metaphorically look our users in the eye and tell them that we no longer support that feature. This means adding the following line to Documentation/changes.tely:

Re: Issue 1294 - Lyric ties

2011-02-12 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca To: Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com Cc: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net; lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 9:37 PM Subject: Re: Issue 1294 - Lyric ties On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 01:32:21PM -0800

Re: Issue 1294 - Lyric ties

2011-02-12 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 2/12/11 2:55 PM, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: TBH, I'd be disappointed if this issue prevented a release of 2.14. I think it's a regression, but I also think it's a minor feature, and the alternatives are acceptable: stick with 2.12 if you really need lyric ties; or update if

Re: Issue 1294 - Lyric ties

2011-02-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 09:55:34PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: TBH, I'd be disappointed if this issue prevented a release of 2.14. I think it's a regression, but I also think it's a minor feature, and the alternatives are acceptable: stick with 2.12 if you really need lyric ties; Unless we're

Re: Issue 1294 - Lyric ties

2011-02-12 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: Now - there's one other interesting feature here.  If I delete the fourth line of the lyrics above (the one with the explicit font) and run Lily 2.13.49, saving the PS file, it has the following in the postscript header:

Re: Issue 1294 - Lyric ties

2011-02-12 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/2/13 Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com: I just pushed a fix for this in git. Halleluiah! Thank you! -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: Issue 1294 - Lyric ties

2011-02-12 Thread Bernard Hurley
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 11:29:34PM +, Graham Percival wrote: On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 09:55:34PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: TBH, I'd be disappointed if this issue prevented a release of 2.14. I think it's a regression, but I also think it's a minor feature, and the alternatives are

Re: Issue 1294 - Lyric ties

2011-02-12 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/2/13 Bernard Hurley bern...@marcade.biz: On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 11:29:34PM +, Graham Percival wrote: On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 09:55:34PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: TBH, I'd be disappointed if this issue prevented a release of 2.14. I think it's a regression, but I also think it's a