Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 28.01.2011 20:42, schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 04:18:16PM -0200, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: lilypond -p 0

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes: If this is done similar to LaTeX packages where you can enable the option draft to speed up compiling, and if everything looks ok, you remove the draft and that's it, then this would be not too confusing for users. draft Mode in LaTeX omits details but does

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-29 Thread Bernard Hurley
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 09:46:23AM +0100, Marc Hohl wrote: What about something like \draftModeOn / \draftModeOff ? How about four named modes: Screen mode - Fastest but good enough for checking on screen. Useful if lily is being used as a composition tool. Draft mode - Not that beautiful

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Bernard Hurley bern...@marcade.biz writes: On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 09:46:23AM +0100, Marc Hohl wrote: What about something like \draftModeOn / \draftModeOff ? How about four named modes: Screen mode - Fastest but good enough for checking on screen. Useful if lily is being used as a

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-29 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:55 AM, m...@apollinemike.com m...@apollinemike.com wrote: Despite the joke, this is a semi-serious suggestion that I've been hoping that somebody might be interested in for years.  There's a bunch of options that we can enable or disable to change the amount of

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-29 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Jan 29, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:55 AM, m...@apollinemike.com m...@apollinemike.com wrote: Despite the joke, this is a semi-serious suggestion that I've been hoping that somebody might be interested in for years. There's a bunch of options

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 29.01.2011 09:50, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohlm...@hohlart.de writes: If this is done similar to LaTeX packages where you can enable the option draft to speed up compiling, and if everything looks ok, you remove the draft and that's it, then this would be not too confusing for users.

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-29 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Jan 29, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Marc Hohl wrote: Am 29.01.2011 09:50, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohlm...@hohlart.de writes: If this is done similar to LaTeX packages where you can enable the option draft to speed up compiling, and if everything looks ok, you remove the draft and that's

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-29 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 1:37 PM, m...@apollinemike.com m...@apollinemike.com wrote: Hey Hanwen, What you describe above is close-ish to what I wound up putting in my newest I don't think so, since the main scoring loops still loop through all combinations in no particular order. I looked

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-29 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Jan 29, 2011, at 1:21 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 1:37 PM, m...@apollinemike.com m...@apollinemike.com wrote: Hey Hanwen, What you describe above is close-ish to what I wound up putting in my newest I don't think so, since the main scoring loops still loop

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Mike Solomon mike...@ufl.edu wrote: Hey all, I have a new Issue 37 fix. The attached patch set implements a 2-pass approach through the quanting that is potentially a huge time drain in scores with lots of collisions, but likely not a time drain for most

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Mike Solomon
inline: hanwen6.png I cooked up this musical example that shows both responses to upward and downward pressure to give you an idea of where I'm coming from. Is there a way to get this type of collision avoidance w/o a 2nd quanting pass? Cheers, ~Mike On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:45 AM, Han-Wen

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread David Kastrup
Mike Solomon mike...@ufl.edu writes: I cooked up this musical example that shows both responses to upward and downward pressure to give you an idea of where I'm coming from. Is there a way to get this type of collision avoidance w/o a 2nd quanting pass? Actually, it would appear a third

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 02:38:56PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Mike Solomon mike...@ufl.edu writes: I cooked up this musical example that shows both responses to upward and downward pressure to give you an idea of where I'm coming from. Is there a way to get this type of collision

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 02:38:56PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Mike Solomon mike...@ufl.edu writes: I cooked up this musical example that shows both responses to upward and downward pressure to give you an idea of where I'm coming from.

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Graham Percival wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 02:38:56PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Mike Solomon mike...@ufl.edu writes: I cooked up this musical example that shows both responses to upward and downward pressure to give you an idea of where I'm coming from.

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
pressed send too soon. On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Mike Solomon mike...@ufl.edu wrote: I cooked up this musical example that shows both responses to upward and downward pressure to give you an idea of where I'm

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Mike Solomon mike...@ufl.edu wrote: I cooked up this musical example that shows both responses to upward and downward pressure to give you an idea of where I'm coming from. Is there a way to get this type of collision avoidance w/o a 2nd quanting pass?

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: I cooked up this musical example that shows both responses to upward and downward pressure to give you an idea of where I'm coming from. Is there a way to get this type of collision avoidance w/o a 2nd

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 04:18:16PM -0200, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:  lilypond -p 0 my_file.ly    % for quick work  lilypond -p 2 my_file.ly    % for a draft to print out  lilypond -p 9 my_file.ly    % for the

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 04:18:16PM -0200, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:  lilypond -p 0 my_file.ly    % for quick work  lilypond -p 2

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 05:42:56PM -0200, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: That's actually precisely why I'm suggesting a  -p X option.  

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 07:26:14PM -0200, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: I see nothing wrong with providing easy-to-use optimization levels, as long as it's possible to dig down and find out what they all do.  I've

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Mike Solomon
On Jan 28, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Mike Solomon wrote: On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: pressed send too soon. On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Mike Solomon mike...@ufl.edu wrote: I cooked up this

Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-26 Thread Mike Solomon
Hey all, I have a new Issue 37 fix. The attached patch set implements a 2-pass approach through the quanting that is potentially a huge time drain in scores with lots of collisions, but likely not a time drain for most scores. The problem is that the quanting algorithm, by fixing a region