Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-29 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Jan 29, 2011, at 1:21 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 1:37 PM, m...@apollinemike.com > wrote: > >> >> Hey Hanwen, >> What you describe above is close-ish to what I wound up putting in my newest > > I don't think so, since the main scoring loops still loop through all >

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-29 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 1:37 PM, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: > > Hey Hanwen, > What you describe above is close-ish to what I wound up putting in my newest I don't think so, since the main scoring loops still loop through all combinations in no particular order. I looked closer at your example

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-29 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Jan 29, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Marc Hohl wrote: > Am 29.01.2011 09:50, schrieb David Kastrup: >> Marc Hohl writes: >> >>> If this is done similar to LaTeX packages where you can enable the >>> option "draft" >>> to speed up compiling, and if everything looks ok, you remove the draft and >>> that'

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 29.01.2011 09:50, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: If this is done similar to LaTeX packages where you can enable the option "draft" to speed up compiling, and if everything looks ok, you remove the draft and that's it, then this would be not too confusing for users. draft Mode in

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-29 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Jan 29, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:55 AM, m...@apollinemike.com > wrote: >>> Despite the joke, this is a semi-serious suggestion that I've been >>> hoping that somebody might be interested in for years. There's a >>> bunch of options that we can en

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-29 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:55 AM, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: >> Despite the joke, this is a semi-serious suggestion that I've been >> hoping that somebody might be interested in for years.  There's a >> bunch of options that we can enable or disable to change the >> amount of processing power; i

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Bernard Hurley writes: > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 09:46:23AM +0100, Marc Hohl wrote: >> What about something like >> \draftModeOn / \draftModeOff ? >> > > How about four named modes: > > "Screen" mode - Fastest but good enough for checking on screen. Useful > if lily is being used as a composition

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-29 Thread Bernard Hurley
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 09:46:23AM +0100, Marc Hohl wrote: > What about something like > \draftModeOn / \draftModeOff ? > How about four named modes: "Screen" mode - Fastest but good enough for checking on screen. Useful if lily is being used as a composition tool. "Draft" mode - Not that beauti

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Hohl writes: > If this is done similar to LaTeX packages where you can enable the > option "draft" > to speed up compiling, and if everything looks ok, you remove the draft and > that's it, then this would be not too confusing for users. draft Mode in LaTeX omits details but does not change

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 28.01.2011 20:42, schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Graham Percival wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 04:18:16PM -0200, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Graham Percival wrote: lilypond -p 0 my_file.ly% for quick work lilypond -p 2 m

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Mike Solomon
On Jan 28, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Mike Solomon wrote: > On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > >> pressed send too soon. >> >> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: >>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Mike Solomon wrote: I cooked up this musical examp

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 07:26:14PM -0200, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Graham Percival > wrote: > > I see nothing wrong with providing "easy-to-use" optimization > > levels, as long as it's possible to "dig down" and find out what > > they all do.  I've happily used -

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 05:42:56PM -0200, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Graham Percival >> wrote: >> > That's actually precisely why I'm suggesting a >> >  -p X >> > option.  People (generally) aren't going to

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 05:42:56PM -0200, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Graham Percival > wrote: > > That's actually precisely why I'm suggesting a > >  -p X > > option.  People (generally) aren't going to look into the depths > > that's even worse, because people tha

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 04:18:16PM -0200, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Graham Percival >> wrote: >> >  lilypond -p 0 my_file.ly    % for quick work >> >  lilypond -p 2 my_file.ly    % for a draft to print ou

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 04:18:16PM -0200, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Graham Percival > wrote: > >  lilypond -p 0 my_file.ly    % for quick work > >  lilypond -p 2 my_file.ly    % for a draft to print out > >  lilypond -p 9 my_file.ly    % for the final score > > I

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Graham Percival wrote: >> > I cooked up this musical example that shows both responses to upward >> > and downward pressure to give you an idea of where I'm coming from. >> > >> > Is there a way to get this type of collision avoidance w/o a 2nd >> > quanting pass?

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Mike Solomon wrote: > > I cooked up this musical example that shows both responses to upward and > downward pressure to give you an idea of where I'm coming from. > > Is there a way to get this type of collision avoidance w/o a 2nd quanting > pass? You are now

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
pressed send too soon. On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Mike Solomon wrote: >> >> I cooked up this musical example that shows both responses to upward and >> downward pressure to give you an idea of where I'm coming from. >> >> Is ther

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 02:38:56PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >> Mike Solomon writes: >> >>> I cooked up this musical example that shows both responses to upward >>> and downward pressure to give you an idea of where I'm coming from. >>> >

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 02:38:56PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >> Mike Solomon writes: >> >> > I cooked up this musical example that shows both responses to upward >> > and downward pressure to give you an idea of where I'm coming from. >> > >> > Is there a way to get

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 02:38:56PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Mike Solomon writes: > > > I cooked up this musical example that shows both responses to upward > > and downward pressure to give you an idea of where I'm coming from. > > > > Is there a way to get this type of collision avoidance w

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread David Kastrup
Mike Solomon writes: > I cooked up this musical example that shows both responses to upward > and downward pressure to give you an idea of where I'm coming from. > > Is there a way to get this type of collision avoidance w/o a 2nd > quanting pass? Actually, it would appear a third pass would be

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Mike Solomon
<> I cooked up this musical example that shows both responses to upward and downward pressure to give you an idea of where I'm coming from. Is there a way to get this type of collision avoidance w/o a 2nd quanting pass? Cheers, ~Mike On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:45 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > On Th

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Mike Solomon
On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:45 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Mike Solomon wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> I have a new Issue 37 fix. >> >> The attached patch set implements a 2-pass approach through the quanting >> that is potentially a huge time drain in scores with lots

Re: Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-28 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Mike Solomon wrote: > Hey all, > > I have a new Issue 37 fix. > > The attached patch set implements a 2-pass approach through the quanting that > is potentially a huge time drain in scores with lots of collisions, but > likely not a time drain for most scores.  

Issue 37 - new work

2011-01-26 Thread Mike Solomon
Hey all, I have a new Issue 37 fix. The attached patch set implements a 2-pass approach through the quanting that is potentially a huge time drain in scores with lots of collisions, but likely not a time drain for most scores. The problem is that the quanting algorithm, by fixing a region siz