Re: Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-14 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Graham Percival writes: Almost everybody wants stable releases more frequently. They attract positive attention Are you sure? On what fora was the 2.14 release announced? Did it eventually make lwn.net? Has anyone checked how many followers we have on FB or Twitter (MuseScore, anyone?).

Re: Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:55:04AM +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: Graham Percival writes: Almost everybody wants stable releases more frequently. They attract positive attention Are you sure? It attracted positive attention on lilypond-user. I never said *how* much attention it

Re: Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-14 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Graham Percival writes: It attracted positive attention on lilypond-user. I never said *how* much attention it received. Right. Well, I personally don't care. If somebody wants to work on advertising, or even better, work on things which encourage other people to do advertising for us,

Re: Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:36:06AM +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: Graham Percival writes: Well, I personally don't care. If somebody wants to work on advertising, or even better, work on things which encourage other people to do advertising for us, they're welcome to do so. Now,

Re: Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-14 Thread David Kastrup
Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org writes: Graham Percival writes: At the moment, the top 3 problems for publicity that I see are: Okay, now we're getting somewhere. I would like to add a top reason 0. we don't really have a clue what LilyPond's priorities should be, and where our

Re: Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-14 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: Umm, have you missed my work on automating patches and fixing the CG lately? I want to make sure that we treat *current* developers fairly, before trying to recruit new ones. We've lost a *lot* of potential effort from Trevor, James, Phil,

Re: Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-14 Thread Federico Bruni
2011/12/14 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: 2. the old lilypond.org/web/ pages are still up (and probably still in google's cache), various links point to those, which gives the impression that our project died 3 years ago or something. Some of that work needs to be done by you, me,

Re: Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 03:01:23PM +0100, Federico Bruni wrote: Which kind of work is involved? python scripts. There's an issue about it on the tracker? Probably not. I've pretty much abandoned adding Frog items, really, since nobody pays attention to them. I can find just this:

Re: Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-14 Thread Julien Rioux
On 14/12/2011 10:21 AM, Graham Percival wrote: It would be nice if you adding the above to that tracker issue. Done. -- Julien ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-12 Thread Graham Percival
Here's where we stand. STABLE RELEASE Almost everybody wants stable releases more frequently. They attract positive attention, they get updated docs and bugfixes and new features into the hands of users, etc. We had the first two release candidates back in Sep. Unfortunately, we've had

Re: Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-12 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: STABLE RELEASE Almost everybody wants stable releases more frequently. They attract positive attention, they get updated docs and bugfixes and new features into the hands of users, etc. We had the first two release candidates back in Sep.

Re: Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-12 Thread Colin Campbell
On 11-12-12 04:16 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percivalgra...@percival-music.ca writes: STABLE RELEASE Almost everybody wants stable releases more frequently. They attract positive attention, they get updated docs and bugfixes and new features into the hands of users, etc. We had the

Re: Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 07:06:56AM -0700, Colin Campbell wrote: FWIW, I've found that GUB on x86-64 Oneiric will choke building cross-compiled components, with error messages saying unable to identify extension of x, where x is the x.o form of a tool. This points, according to GCC, to