...@gmail.com
To: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca
Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: lilybuntu 2
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com
wrote:
With that in mind, does anybody feel like cooking up lilybuntu 2
right now? I
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 06:20:15PM -, Phil Holmes wrote:
I was going to say that the instructions below don't appear to be in
the CG. But I've just done a Google on their precise words and found
them in 13.6 Unsorted policies. Think it would make sense to put
them in their own section
- Original Message -
From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca
To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
Cc: Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com; lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: lilybuntu 2
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 06:20:15PM -, Phil
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 06:36:28PM -, Phil Holmes wrote:
Either 12.5 Building an Ubuntu distro or 13.6 Ditto, with Unsorted
Policies - 13.7?
12.5 sounds fine to me; please push.
Cheers,
- Graham
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On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 06:57:46PM +, James wrote:
http://lilypond.org/~graham/cg-giraffe/using-lilybuntu.html
•Pasting into a terminal is done with Ctrl+Shift+v.
This is not true (for me anyway - just tried it).
really? I tried it a couple of times, and it worked for me.
You can,
On 12/20/10 10:46 AM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
BTW: since we are effectively distributing a full-blown GNU/Linux
distro, we might want to consider naming it differently; as things
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:42:59AM -0700, Carl Sorensen wrote:
In general, a Remix
can have applications from the Ubuntu archives added, or default
applications removed, but removing or changing any infrastructure components
(e.g., shared libraries or desktop components) will result in
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
We have default applications removed and have some variance in package
selection. Therefore, this is not just Ubuntu, it's a derived work from
Ubuntu, at least in Ubuntu's mind. And Ubuntu wants it called a remix
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 02:29:27PM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Latest iso (just finished, not uploaded) still has evolution,
therefore still has ubuntu desktop environment metapackage installed.
Still has Ubuntu software center other ubuntu-specific desktop stuff
like that. I think we're o.k.
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote:
We could also call it lilypuntu, since they only claim trademark to words
ending in BUNTU. Juse move the splice one character to the right. It
even sounds almost the same, but is spelled differently.
I was about to
Am 18.12.2010 um 02:55 schrieb pound...@lineone.net:
Original Message
From: c_soren...@byu.edu
Date: 18/12/2010 0:32
What about if we came up with some other name that wouldn't cause
trademark
problems?
virtualLily
VMLily
LilyVM
LilyDevel
LilyBuilder
VM
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 4:42 AM, Patrick Schmidt p.l.schm...@gmx.de wrote:
virtualLily
VMLily
LilyVM
LilyDevel
LilyBuilder
Toadstool Linux
Frog Linux
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- Original Message -
From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca
To: Colin Campbell c...@shaw.ca
Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: lilybuntu 2
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 04:54:45AM +, Graham Percival wrote:
unfortunately kainhofer
Colin Campbell wrote Friday, December 17, 2010 4:44 AM
Hi Colin - pleased you found this easy. Just one comment ..
3. Working with source code (was section 2)
* left as is, although why do we use git on Windows if we can't
build?
If we're pointing Windows and MacOS users to lilybuntu, let's
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 09:44:06AM -, Phil Holmes wrote:
Just come across another issue you may want to document. It's not
trivial to get stuff on and off the VM. If you install the Guest
additions, copy and paste works fine. However, I wasn't able to
find an easy way to transfer files
Phil Holmes wrote Friday, December 17, 2010 10:12 AM
From: Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk
64 bit vista. 6 Gigs RAM. The odd 1 Gig for a VM has no effect
:-)
Lucky you ! It certainly does on my 3Gb laptop (at its maximum).
Trevor
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On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Colin Campbell c...@shaw.ca wrote:
All that said, however, I think that both lily-git and lilybuntu are
rather awkwardly shoehorned into the CG.
I've just followed my instructions for the updated lilybuntu2, and
despite my reorganization, it still feels a bit
I have a new version of the lilybuntu instructions, uploaded here:
http://lilypond.org/~graham/cg-doggy/lilybuntu.html
These instructions are valid for a short time. Once I have a newer
draft, I will delete that directory and send a new link. Please:
- look only at those instructions.
- do
- Original Message -
From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca
To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
Cc: Colin Campbell c...@shaw.ca; lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: lilybuntu 2
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 09:44:06AM -, Phil Holmes wrote
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:20 AM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
I've heard feedback from James, Colin, and Phil. Could we have
another volunteer try lilybuntu2, and test of those instructions?
Am doing it now. I've installed it 7-8 times in the last few days but
haven't
: lilybuntu 2
Chuffed - in English English - means pleased. In English English we'd say
bothered or worried.
Interestingly enough, in this dictionary
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/chuffed
chuffed means *both* pleased and displeased!
Isn't English fun?
Carl
Never heard the displeased version. It says it's Southern English
dialect - it's either quite localised or has died out again.
Phil
Interestingly enough, in this dictionary
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/chuffed
chuffed means *both* pleased and displeased!
Isn't English fun?
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 06:39:22AM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
I've always managed to find a difficult way to do these things.
...
These are good instructions. I never knew about out-of-tree building,
and I never knew about ./autogen.sh --noconfigure until John
mentioned it a few days ago.
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
Might need note about using Ctrl+Shift+V to paste into a terminal, in
case people are copying/pasting from the doc pages.
Wow, this never occurred to me -- I just middle-clicked. I'd
completely forgotten that
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm a linux power user but my laptop doesn't have a middle mouse button. :)
Click the left and right trackpad buttons at the same time. If you're
on a powerbook, by now you should have mapped your F11 and F12 keys to
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm a linux power user but my laptop doesn't have a middle mouse button. :)
Click the left and right trackpad buttons at the same time.
I have a new version of the lilybuntu instructions, uploaded here:
http://lilypond.org/~graham/cg-giraffe/quick-start.html
I took the radical step of creating an entirely new chapter, quick
start. Give it a whirl.
These instructions are valid for a short time. Once I have a newer
draft, I
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 06:38:06PM -, Phil Holmes wrote:
- Original Message - From: Graham Percival
I have a new version of the lilybuntu instructions, uploaded here:
http://lilypond.org/~graham/cg-doggy/lilybuntu.html
obsoleted as of 5pm or so today.
Download the
Graham,
On 17/12/2010 16:52, Graham Percival wrote:
I have a new version of the lilybuntu instructions, uploaded here:
http://lilypond.org/~graham/cg-giraffe/quick-start.html
I took the radical step of creating an entirely new chapter, quick
start. Give it a whirl.
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- Original Message -
From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca
To: Lily devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 11:20 AM
Subject: lilybuntu 2 and instructions
I have a new version of the lilybuntu instructions, uploaded here:
http://lilypond.org/~graham/cg
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
I've heard feedback from James, Colin, and Phil. Could we have
another volunteer try lilybuntu2, and test of those instructions?
Hi Graham,
It might be a good idea to provide users with a version-independent
On 12/17/10 12:49 PM, Valentin Villenave valen...@villenave.net wrote:
BTW: since we are effectively distributing a full-blown GNU/Linux
distro, we might want to consider naming it differently; as things
currently are, I'm afraid we're committing a trademark infringement of
sorts:
Any
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote:
BTW: since we are effectively distributing a full-blown GNU/Linux
distro, we might want to consider naming it differently; as things
currently are, I'm afraid we're committing a trademark infringement of
sorts:
Any
awww...
-Original Message-
From: lilypond-devel-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org on behalf of
Valentin Villenave
Sent: Fri 12/17/2010 19:49
To: Graham Percival
Cc: Lily devel
Subject: Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Graham Percival
gra
On 12/17/10 4:15 PM, James Lowe james.l...@datacore.com wrote:
Lilybuntu is a great name!
It is, and I'd like to be able to keep it. But the Ubuntu people are pretty
clear about how they want to see their trademark used.
We could ask them for permission. I suspect they wouldn't give it,
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 05:32:38PM -0700, Carl Sorensen wrote:
On 12/17/10 4:15 PM, James Lowe james.l...@datacore.com wrote:
Lilybuntu is a great name!
It is, and I'd like to be able to keep it. But the Ubuntu people are pretty
clear about how they want to see their trademark used.
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 06:57:46PM +, James wrote:
http://lilypond.org/~graham/cg-giraffe/compiling-with-lilybuntu.html
Slightly OT,
I'll look at the on-topic comments later.
I never create a 'build' dir.
...
Is there a reason we are advocating an extra mkdir
../build/configure/..
Original Message
From: c_soren...@byu.edu
Date: 18/12/2010 0:32
What about if we came up with some other name that wouldn't cause
trademark
problems?
virtualLily
VMLily
LilyVM
LilyDevel
LilyBuilder
VM and virtual suggest there is something about the distro that is
On Sat, 2010-12-18 at 01:55 +, pound...@lineone.net wrote:
VM and virtual suggest there is something about the distro that is
particular to being run in a virtual machine. Why not just LilyLinux?
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--
He who fights with monsters might
, etc.
James has tried it and sent me comments, and I've made my first
revision of the process. Unfortunately, the results aren't online
yet, but let's not panic.
Would any doc-savvy contributor like to try lilybuntu 2 and the
new version of the instructions?
1. Please rebuild the docs from
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Valentin Villenave
valen...@villenave.net wrote:
Jon, if you do make a new iso, then please feel free to create a
torrent file as well, with the following URL as a tracker:
http://torrents.lilynet.net/announce.php
Then you can either upload the file or just
the docs, then a new
person will try it, then I'll adjust the docs again, etc.
James has tried it and sent me comments, and I've made my first
revision of the process. Unfortunately, the results aren't online
yet, but let's not panic.
Would any doc-savvy contributor like to try lilybuntu 2
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 09:44:17PM -0700, Colin Campbell wrote:
Use FF to go to LP website, follow path from Community - Help Us -
Advanced Tasks to Use Lilybuntu
Clicked on link to lily-git.tcl source, watched it open as a text file,
thought Silly bunt!, opened Nautilus and found the script
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 04:54:45AM +, Graham Percival wrote:
unfortunately kainhofer doesn't seem to be updating with the new
CG (or even the new website), so until I release 2.13.44, the only
people who can see the updated instructions are those who can
already compile git.
Further to
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:32 AM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote:
since most will use it in a VM. Now I'm running make all and make doc
to test it before sharing. Incidentally I'd hate to have to build the
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote:
The new .iso file is ready. You can brows for it at this address:
http://files.lilynet.net/
or download directly using this one:
http://files.lilynet.net/lilybuntu2.iso
http://files.lilynet.net/lilybuntu2.iso.md5
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 05:11:46AM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
The new .iso file is ready. You can brows for it at this address:
Great!
If you want to test it, please feel free. Note that the lily-git.tcl
script is already in the user's home directory, ready to grab the
source code.
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Valentin Villenave
valen...@villenave.net wrote:
I've added a bitTorrent tracker and server as well:
http://torrents.lilynet.net
Cheers,
Valentin.
Excellent! Thanks Valentin. I'm set up to be a seeder.
Jon
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http://www.jonathankulp.com
hello,
On 15/12/2010 14:58, Graham Percival wrote:
With that in mind, could James (continue) to test it, making sure
that he looks at the docs in current git rather than relying on
his own knowledge?
The iso is now downloaded.
I'll look at the CG in Git (once I can compile the docs again :)
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 3:48 PM, James james.l...@datacore.com wrote:
Or I can use the CG on the website which seems to be
Development for LilyPond 2.13.43
Actually, that's fine for you. Nothing has changed since .43 yet.
I'm halfway done downloading it, and I'll make small tweaks as I go
hello,
On 14/12/2010 03:14, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
I made a new .iso with fontforge 20100501 built from source, as well
as dblatex. ./autogen.sh now runs with no warnings or errors.
Yes I can confirm this too.
Am starting a make ; make doc now.
Now if we could configure LilyGit.tcl to have
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:50 AM, James james.l...@datacore.com wrote:
Now if we could configure LilyGit.tcl to have another button to 'compile
(doc) for the first time'
It could run ./autogen.sh and then make ; make doc.
I rarely make install personally.
But thanks again Jonathan!
No
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm working on a slight improvement right now. I've made a desktop
launcher for lily-git.tcl and I want to see if I can make it appear on
the user's desktop by default instead of in the home directory. Trying
to make
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm working on a slight improvement right now. I've made a desktop
launcher for lily-git.tcl and I want to see if I can make it appear on
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote:
since most will use it in a VM. Now I'm running make all and make doc
to test it before sharing. Incidentally I'd hate to have to build the
Everything built without errors. I'm ready to upload the .iso.
Valentin can
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
Thanks! How are your wrists? If you're fine for typing now, then
please make a patch for the CG with these instructions. Err...
just add a @subheading to CG 11.6 Unsorted policies, and dump the
text in there.
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote:
With that in mind, does anybody feel like cooking up lilybuntu 2
right now? I recommend
- Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
- nothing else fancy
lilybuntu2 is about ready. I've created the .iso and installed in a VM
for testing
Hello
On 13/12/2010 15:39, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Jonathan Kulpjonlancek...@gmail.com wrote:
With that in mind, does anybody feel like cooking up lilybuntu 2
right now? I recommend
- Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
- nothing else fancy
lilybuntu2 is about ready. I've
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:53 AM, James james.l...@datacore.com wrote:
On 13/12/2010 15:39, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Jonathan Kulpjonlancek...@gmail.com
wrote:
With that in mind, does anybody feel like cooking up lilybuntu 2
right now? I recommend
- Ubuntu
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 09:39:57AM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
lilybuntu2 is about ready. I've created the .iso and installed in a VM
for testing, all that's left is to test the doc-build in the VM.
building of LP itself went fine. Lilybuntu2 should be even easier for
folks than the previous
lilybuntu 2
right now? I recommend
- Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
- nothing else fancy
lilybuntu2 is about ready. I've created the .iso and installed in a VM
for testing, all that's left is to test the doc-build in the VM.
Let me know where I can get this .iso and I can kick of the Doc build today.
I don't
- Original Message -
From: Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com
I don't have a home for it yet. It's 938 MB. I think it's the texlive
packages that make it so huge. I've removed almost all desktop
software and documentation packages. I'll be able to run the doc-build
later this morning
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 09:59:06AM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
I don't have a home for it yet. It's 938 MB. I think it's the texlive
packages that make it so huge. I've removed almost all desktop
software and documentation packages. I'll be able to run the doc-build
later this morning and then
On 13/12/2010 16:06, Graham Percival wrote:
I think it ended up on Valentin's server.
Cheers,
- Graham
Seems both Phil's and my link work :)
I've only ever used
http://prodet.hu/bert/lilydev/lilybuntu.iso
Regards
James
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On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't have a home for it yet. It's 938 MB. I think it's the texlive
packages that make it so huge. I've removed almost all desktop
software and documentation packages. I'll be able to run the doc-build
later this
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok I think lilybuntu2.iso is ready to go. Doc build just finished.
There were a couple of errors at end but I think all the pdf files
were built. Not sure what else to check on. Where do the html files
end up? I
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Jonathan Kulp end up? I don't see them in
Documentation/out-www/
They should be in out-www/offline-root/ unless you do anything really weird.
It's not quite ready yet. Doc-build
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
They should be in out-www/offline-root/ unless you do anything really weird.
It's not quite ready yet. Doc-build doesn't make the html files. After
installing dblatex on my regular machine I found that the docs
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm. This sounds plausible but it's also possible that I don't know
how to do a torrent properly.
Please give me a ping, and I'll provide you with an ftp account that
will allow you to upload the file on
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
Do you get any warnings or errors when running ./configure ? it would
be nice if we didn't have any of those.
This would require getting fontforge 20100501 from here, though:
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
I was hoping that guile 2.0 and/or texinfo 4.14 would be out by
now, but it seems like that's going to be be released a few days
after officially making lilybuntu 2. (not from insight into the
development
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