Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 02:29:27PM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: > Latest iso (just finished, not uploaded) still has evolution, > therefore still has ubuntu desktop environment metapackage installed. > Still has Ubuntu software center & other ubuntu-specific desktop stuff > like that. I think we're

Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-20 Thread Jonathan Kulp
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Graham Percival wrote: >> We have "default applications removed" and have "some variance in package >> selection".  Therefore, this is not just Ubuntu, it's a derived work from >> Ubuntu, at least in Ubuntu's mind.  And Ubuntu wants it called a "remix" if >> we are

Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:42:59AM -0700, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > In general, a Remix > can have applications from the Ubuntu archives added, or default > applications removed, but removing or changing any infrastructure components > (e.g., shared libraries or desktop components) will result in c

Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-20 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/20/10 10:46 AM, "Jonathan Kulp" wrote: > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Graham Percival > wrote: >>> BTW: since we are effectively distributing a full-blown GNU/Linux >>> distro, we might want to consider naming it differently; as things >>> currently are, I'm afraid we're committing

Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 08:49:26PM +0100, Valentin Villenave wrote: > It might be a good idea to provide users with a version-independent > URL, such as files.lilynet.net/lilybuntu-latest.iso (this way I can > just maintain the symlink without having the CG everytime a new iso is > out). I would r

Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-20 Thread Jonathan Kulp
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Graham Percival wrote: >> BTW: since we are effectively distributing a full-blown GNU/Linux >> distro, we might want to consider naming it differently; as things >> currently are, I'm afraid we're committing a trademark infringement of >> sorts: > > Mao. > > > Ok,

Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-18 Thread Jonathan Kulp
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 4:42 AM, Patrick Schmidt wrote: >>> virtualLily >> >>> VMLily >> >>> LilyVM >> >>> LilyDevel >> >>> LilyBuilder >> Toadstool Linux Frog Linux -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond

Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-18 Thread Patrick Schmidt
Am 18.12.2010 um 02:55 schrieb pound...@lineone.net: Original Message From: c_soren...@byu.edu Date: 18/12/2010 0:32 What about if we came up with some other name that wouldn't cause trademark problems? virtualLily VMLily LilyVM LilyDevel LilyBuilder "VM

Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-18 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Carl Sorensen wrote: > We could also call it lilypuntu, since they only claim trademark to words > ending in "BUNTU".  Juse move the splice one character to the right.  It > even sounds almost the same, but is spelled differently. I was about to suggest LilyBonto

Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-17 Thread Colin Campbell
On Sat, 2010-12-18 at 01:55 +, pound...@lineone.net wrote: > "VM" and "virtual" suggest there is something about the distro that is > particular to being run in a virtual machine. Why not just LilyLinux? > > ___ +1 -- He who fights with monsters

Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-17 Thread pound...@lineone.net
>Original Message >From: c_soren...@byu.edu >Date: 18/12/2010 0:32 >What about if we came up with some other name that wouldn't cause trademark >problems? > >virtualLily >VMLily >LilyVM >LilyDevel >LilyBuilder > "VM" and "virtual" suggest there is something about the distro th

Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 05:32:38PM -0700, Carl Sorensen wrote: > On 12/17/10 4:15 PM, "James Lowe" wrote: > > > Lilybuntu is a great name! > > It is, and I'd like to be able to keep it. But the Ubuntu people are pretty > clear about how they want to see their trademark used. Yes. > We could a

Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-17 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/17/10 4:15 PM, "James Lowe" wrote: > > Lilybuntu is a great name! It is, and I'd like to be able to keep it. But the Ubuntu people are pretty clear about how they want to see their trademark used. We could ask them for permission. I suspect they wouldn't give it, but it wouldn't hurt

RE: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-17 Thread James Lowe
awww... -Original Message- From: lilypond-devel-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org on behalf of Valentin Villenave Sent: Fri 12/17/2010 19:49 To: Graham Percival Cc: Lily devel Subject: Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Graham Percival wrote

Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-17 Thread Jonathan Kulp
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote: > >> BTW: since we are effectively distributing a full-blown GNU/Linux >> distro, we might want to consider naming it differently; as things >> currently are, I'm afraid we're committing a trademark infringement of >> sorts: >> """ >> Any mark

Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-17 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/17/10 12:49 PM, "Valentin Villenave" wrote: > > BTW: since we are effectively distributing a full-blown GNU/Linux > distro, we might want to consider naming it differently; as things > currently are, I'm afraid we're committing a trademark infringement of > sorts: > """ > Any mark ending

Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-17 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > I've heard feedback from James, Colin, and Phil.  Could we have > another volunteer try lilybuntu2, and test of those instructions? Hi Graham, It might be a good idea to provide users with a version-independent URL, such as files.lilynet

Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-17 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" To: "Lily devel" Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 11:20 AM Subject: lilybuntu 2 and instructions I have a new version of the lilybuntu instructions, uploaded here: http://lilypond.org/~graham/cg-doggy/lilybuntu.html

Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 06:38:06PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: > - Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" > >I have a new version of the lilybuntu instructions, uploaded here: > > http://lilypond.org/~graham/cg-doggy/lilybuntu.html obsoleted as of 5pm or so today. > "Download the 'lilyb

Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-17 Thread Jonathan Kulp
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Jonathan Kulp wrote: >> I'm a linux power user but my laptop doesn't have a middle mouse button. :) > > Click the left and right trackpad buttons at the same time.  If you're > on a powerbook, by now you sh

Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Jonathan Kulp wrote: > I'm a linux power user but my laptop doesn't have a middle mouse button. :) Click the left and right trackpad buttons at the same time. If you're on a powerbook, by now you should have mapped your F11 and F12 keys to "middle click" and "rig

Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-17 Thread Jonathan Kulp
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > >> Might need note about using Ctrl+Shift+V to paste into a terminal, in >> case people are copying/pasting from the doc pages. > > Wow, this never occurred to me -- I just middle-clicked.  I'd > completely forgotten that people using non-u

Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 06:39:22AM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: > I've always managed to find a difficult way to do these things. ... > These are good instructions. I never knew about out-of-tree building, and I never knew about ./autogen.sh --noconfigure until John mentioned it a few days ago. T

Re: lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-17 Thread Jonathan Kulp
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:20 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > > I've heard feedback from James, Colin, and Phil.  Could we have > another volunteer try lilybuntu2, and test of those instructions? > Am doing it now. I've installed it 7-8 times in the last few days but haven't followed your instruction

lilybuntu 2 and instructions

2010-12-17 Thread Graham Percival
I have a new version of the lilybuntu instructions, uploaded here: http://lilypond.org/~graham/cg-doggy/lilybuntu.html These instructions are valid for a short time. Once I have a newer draft, I will delete that directory and send a new link. Please: - look only at those instructions. - do NOT