Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-20 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi there, well, I didn't read all messages of this thread, but I see two points of discussion: 1. we already have LSR 2. who likes to use git? 1.: Well, we have LSR, but the current implementation needs a tomcat-server with mysql. I did use tomcat sometimes and created some webapps, but as a

Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-19 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/8/19 Phil Holmes : > - Original Message - From: "Janek Warchol" >> What you said would be true if the snippets were so simple that they >> never change. But they do change. > > Hardly ever. I maintain the current LSR and the changes are so infrequent I > often forget to check whether

Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-19 Thread Paul Morris
or this.) FWIW, -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/maintaining-advanced-power-user-Scheme-functions-tp149155p149479.html Sent from the Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-devel mailing list

Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-19 Thread Phil Holmes
2013/8/19 Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net: This will be my last post on this. > - Original Message - From: "Janek Warchol" > >> 2013/8/19 Phil Holmes : >> > However, my other opposition to git for this >> > purpose is that it's intended as a Version Control system, which is >> > comp

Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-19 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/8/19 Phil Holmes : > - Original Message - From: "Janek Warchoł" > >> 2013/8/19 Phil Holmes : >> > However, my other opposition to git for this >> > purpose is that it's intended as a Version Control system, which is >> > completely unnecessary for the LSR - that's just a simple databa

Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-19 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Janek Warchoł" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: "Thomas Morley" ; "lilypond-user" ; "Phil Hézaine" ; "David Nalesnik" ; "LilyPond Developmet Team" Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 3:17 PM Subj

Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-19 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, some things were already answered by other people 2013/8/19 Phil Holmes : > - Original Message - From: "Janek Warchoł" >> A valid concern, but i have a counterargument: there is a web >> interface for git that allows you to copy-and-paste code directly in, >> or alternatively to type

Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-19 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/8/19 Werner LEMBERG : >> Well, one question may be whether git could be an alternate >> interface into the LSR. In a limited manner, it already is >> (snippets migrate back from LilyPond git repository into the LSR). > > Actually, I like the idea of using git for the LSR *as the storage*. > E

Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Well, one question may be whether git could be an alternate > interface into the LSR. In a limited manner, it already is > (snippets migrate back from LilyPond git repository into the LSR). Actually, I like the idea of using git for the LSR *as the storage*. Experienced cann access it directly,

Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-19 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > - Original Message - > From: "Janek Warchoł" > To: "Thomas Morley" > Cc: "lilypond-user" ; "Phil Hézaine" > ; "David Nalesnik" > ; "LilyPond Developmet Team" > &g

Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-19 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/8/19 Urs Liska : > PS: I'd also second the idea of hosting lilypond on a more accessible server > (if that doesn't imply complicated side-effects). It is so easy to create a > fork and open a pull request, I'm sure such a step would increase the number > of contributions by people who can't or

Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-19 Thread Phil Holmes
ssage - From: Urs Liska To: Janek Warchoł ; Phil Holmes Cc: LilyPond Developmet Team ; Thomas Morley ; David Nalesnik ; lilypond-user Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 11:21 AM Subject: Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions One thing I'd definitely support about this is

Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-19 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Janek Warchoł" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: "Thomas Morley" ; "lilypond-user" ; "Phil Hézaine" ; "David Nalesnik" ; "LilyPond Developmet Team" Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 11:02 AM Subj

Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-19 Thread Urs Liska
One thing I'd definitely support about this is making LSR somewhat version independent to allow one to have snippets requiring new lily versions. Maybe providing several lily versions (not necessarily _all_ of course) and use an appropriate one to compile the snippets. This would also allow us to

Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-19 Thread Urs Liska
One thing I'd definitely support about this is making LSR somewhat version independent to allow one to have snippets requiring new lily versions. Maybe providing several lily versions (not necessarily _all_ of course) and use an appropriate one to compile the snippets. This would also allow us to

Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-19 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/8/19 Phil Holmes : > - Original Message - From: "Janek Warchoł" >> After some thinking, i came to the conclusion that LSR should be >> redesigned. >> Fristly, it should be a git repository, to make collaboration easy - >> when something's a git repository, i have a habit of contributin

Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-19 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Janek Warchoł" To: "Thomas Morley" Cc: "lilypond-user" ; "Phil Hézaine" ; "David Nalesnik" ; "LilyPond Developmet Team" Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 9:46 PM Subject: Re: maintaining advanced

Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-18 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2013/8/17 Janek Warchoł : > > 2013/8/14 Thomas Morley : >> The right place for them would be the LSR, _if_ the LSR would be able >> to compile them and not use a LilyPond-version far too old for many of >> my ideas. >> >> There were some insinuations on the list the last months (or was it a >>

Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-16 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2013/8/14 Thomas Morley : > 2013/8/14 Janek Warchoł : >> Harm and David N. (and some other people) write lots of very advanced >> (and very helpful!) Scheme functions. These funcitons are improved >> over time, and there is a problem related to that: it's easy to get >> lost in all the email

Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-15 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > That's great!! > Though, honestly, perhaps you should wait until 2.18. is out. I still hope > it's coming soon. You've seen the flurry of discussions and purported fixes (tending to fall through even the regression tests) about cyclic backend dependencies regressions? Ev

Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-15 Thread Thomas Morley
Hi Pierre, 2013/8/15 Pierre Perol-Schneider : > Hi Janek, Hi Harm, > > 2013/8/14 Thomas Morley >> >> >> So I was annoyed by the lack of help/interest of others and I'm still >> pissed off. >> > > Sorry for that, I think I totaly missed this discussion. > I referred to the last LSR-upgrade startin

Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-14 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Janek, Hi Harm, 2013/8/14 Thomas Morley > > So I was annoyed by the lack of help/interest of others and I'm still > pissed off. > > Sorry for that, I think I totaly missed this discussion. > Volunteers? > Be sure that I'd grant support. > Sure ! Maybe give me some links where I can find h

Re: maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-14 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/8/14 Janek Warchoł : > Hi, > > Harm and David N. (and some other people) write lots of very advanced > (and very helpful!) Scheme functions. These funcitons are improved > over time, and there is a problem related to that: it's easy to get > lost in all the email threads about them, and it's

maintaining advanced power-user Scheme functions

2013-08-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, Harm and David N. (and some other people) write lots of very advanced (and very helpful!) Scheme functions. These funcitons are improved over time, and there is a problem related to that: it's easy to get lost in all the email threads about them, and it's not always obvious where the most rec