Re: sustainable development in LilyPond

2010-08-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:06:02AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > As I read it, your mentoring efforts did not get you what > you wanted (doc writers), but it got you something else > (possibly more valuable/hard to get?): developers. Is > that correct? What I wanted, most of all, was to have

Re: sustainable development in LilyPond

2010-08-23 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op maandag 02-08-2010 om 19:31 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef Graham Percival: Hi Graham, Great talk. How do you reach your conclusion that spending unlimited mentoring is not effective? As I read it, your mentoring efforts did not get you what you wanted (doc writers), but it got you something

Re: patch-reviewing and the i-ching (was Re: sustainable development in LilyPond)

2010-08-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 02:33:30PM +0200, Mike Solomon wrote: > I am a bit lost with respect to what has to be done and who's working on > what, but I've been chipping away as best I can on issues that, to me, seem > under-commented-upon. In theory, the Status:Started, Owner:foo indicates that. I

patch-reviewing and the i-ching (was Re: sustainable development in LilyPond)

2010-08-04 Thread Mike Solomon
On 8/4/10 1:25 PM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: > > David Kastrup wrote Wednesday, August 04, 2010 11:27 AM > > >> "Trevor Daniels" writes: >> >>> 1) There is no architectural overview and no program logic manual >>> to >>> guide new developers through the early stages. >>> This has the advantage

Re: sustainable development in LilyPond

2010-08-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Wednesday, August 04, 2010 11:27 AM "Trevor Daniels" writes: 1) There is no architectural overview and no program logic manual to guide new developers through the early stages. This has the advantage that only experienced and expert coders able to deduce the design from

Re: sustainable development in LilyPond

2010-08-04 Thread David Kastrup
"Trevor Daniels" writes: > 1) There is no architectural overview and no program logic manual to > guide new developers through the early stages. > This has the advantage that only experienced and expert > coders able to deduce the design from the source code are > able to contribute significantly

Re: sustainable development in LilyPond

2010-08-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Wednesday, August 04, 2010 9:41 AM On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 09:10:25AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: 1) There is no architectural overview and no program logic manual to guide new developers through the early stages. This has the advantage that No; there's no advant

Re: sustainable development in LilyPond

2010-08-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 09:10:25AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > 1) There is no architectural overview and no program logic manual to > guide new developers through the early stages. > This has the advantage that No; there's no advantage to this. It's simply due to an imbalance of high skill,

Re: sustainable development in LilyPond

2010-08-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, August 03, 2010 3:31 AM As you might recall, I gave a talk at RMLL 2010 about sustainable development in F/OSS. Nice talk. It prompted me to think about my own involvement with LilyPond. I volunteered for doc development due to the guilt pressure at the start

Re: sustainable development in LilyPond

2010-08-03 Thread Karl Hammar
Graham: ... > http://percival-music.ca/blog/2010-08-01-sustainable-development.html ... Thank you for the slides, I liked them. Regards, /Karl Hammar - Aspö Data Lilla Aspö 148 S-742 94 Östhammar Sweden +46 173 140 57 ___ lilypond-devel mail

sustainable development in LilyPond

2010-08-02 Thread Graham Percival
(sorry if this is a resend; I seem to be having problems with email) Hi guys, As you might recall, I gave a talk at RMLL 2010 about sustainable development in F/OSS.  I took most of my examples from lilypond, so it may be of interest to you: http://percival-music.ca/blog/2010-08-01-sustainable-d