Re: vert. spacing: Rename properties (lily, scm). (issue3031041)

2010-11-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark, you wrote Saturday, November 13, 2010 12:50 AM I think I made every suggestion except one. I didn't change grob to layout object, just because grob appears as a word so often in define-grob-properties.scm, and layout doesn't appear once: That may be so, but it's a standard term in

Re: vert. spacing: Rename properties (lily, scm). (issue3031041)

2010-11-12 Thread tdanielsmusic
Apart from the placement of the descriptive text in the IR, which I think is debatable, I agree with Carl's comments. Thanks again Mark. Every iteration is an improvement. I think we're nearly there! Trevor http://codereview.appspot.com/3031041/diff/40001/lily/axis-group-interface.cc File

Re: vert. spacing: Rename properties (lily, scm). (issue3031041)

2010-11-12 Thread Carl . D . Sorensen
On 2010/11/12 09:06:06, Trevor Daniels wrote: http://codereview.appspot.com/3031041/diff/40001/lily/axis-group-interface.cc#newcode780 lily/axis-group-interface.cc:780: The following keys may be set in the spacing alists:\n I'm not sure. The current description is in the interface. If

Re: vert. spacing: Rename properties (lily, scm). (issue3031041)

2010-11-12 Thread tdanielsmusic
You're right, Carl. I'd misunderstood how this works. Trevor http://codereview.appspot.com/3031041/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: vert. spacing: Rename properties (lily, scm). (issue3031041)

2010-11-12 Thread markpolesky
On 2010/11/12 02:46:18, Carl wrote: Thanks again for your work on this, Mark. Carl, I think that everything you wrote in this post is agreeable, including changing the StaffGrouper property name to default-staff-staff-spacing. I'm happy to implement all of these changes, but this will have to

Re: vert. spacing: Rename properties (lily, scm). (issue3031041)

2010-11-12 Thread markpolesky
On 2010/11/12 17:19:17, Mark Polesky wrote: Trevor, any objection to Carl's renaming? It's logical and consistent in my mind, so I'd like to do it. Sorry to keep changing my mind... In truth I'm still questioning it. I might like to keep staff-staff-spacing for the StaffGrouper prop. I'm

Re: vert. spacing: Rename properties (lily, scm). (issue3031041)

2010-11-12 Thread markpolesky
On 2010/11/12 21:53:41, Mark Polesky wrote: I might like to keep staff-staff-spacing for the StaffGrouper prop. I'm thinking it over, and I'll get back to you. Guys, I'd rather not change StaffGrouper's 'staff-staff-spacing to 'default-staff-staff-spacing. The big reason for me is that it is

Re: vert. spacing: Rename properties (lily, scm). (issue3031041)

2010-11-12 Thread Carl . D . Sorensen
On 2010/11/12 22:48:57, Mark Polesky wrote: staff-staff-spacing When applied to a staff-group's StaffGrouper grob, this spacing alist controls the distance between consecutive staves within the staff-group. When applied to a staff's VerticalAxisGroup grob, it controls the distance between

Re: vert. spacing: Rename properties (lily, scm). (issue3031041)

2010-11-12 Thread Carl . D . Sorensen
On 2010/11/12 17:19:17, Mark Polesky wrote: On 2010/11/12 02:46:18, Carl wrote: One tiny modification I propose is to put the alist-key descriptions into default-staff-staff- instead of staff-staff- because otherwise the prop descriptions on the IR staff-grouper-interface page would be referring

Re: vert. spacing: Rename properties (lily, scm). (issue3031041)

2010-11-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
markpole...@gmail.com wrote Friday, November 12, 2010 10:48 PM On 2010/11/12 21:53:41, Mark Polesky wrote: I might like to keep staff-staff-spacing for the StaffGrouper prop. I'm thinking it over, and I'll get back to you. Guys, I'd rather not change StaffGrouper's 'staff-staff-spacing to

Re: vert. spacing: Rename properties (lily, scm). (issue3031041)

2010-11-12 Thread markpolesky
Here's the latest patch set. I think I made every suggestion except one. I didn't change grob to layout object, just because grob appears as a word so often in define-grob-properties.scm, and layout doesn't appear once: $ git grep -c -e \grob\ --and --not -e [-:]grob \

Re: vert. spacing: Rename properties (lily, scm). (issue3031041)

2010-11-12 Thread Carl . D . Sorensen
On 2010/11/13 00:50:51, Mark Polesky wrote: So, could it possibly be? Is this okay to push? I like it a lot! Just one more thing -- James has captured new default values from Keith Ohara's work. Perhaps these new default values should be added as part of this patch.

Re: vert. spacing: Rename properties (lily, scm). (issue3031041)

2010-11-12 Thread Carl . D . Sorensen
LGTM. What happened to the description of reference points for various objects? Has that disappeared, or did I just miss it? Will it be coming back somewhere? Thanks, Carl http://codereview.appspot.com/3031041/diff/64001/Documentation/learning/fundamental.itely File

Re: vert. spacing: Rename properties (lily, scm). (issue3031041)

2010-11-12 Thread markpolesky
Carl and Trevor, The patch is pushed. Thanks so much for your help! On 2010/11/13 01:10:47, Carl wrote: But this change will invalidate James's patch, so we ought to at least be sure to handle that properly. Yep. I emailed him on -devel. What happened to the description of reference

Re: vert. spacing: Rename properties (lily, scm). (issue3031041)

2010-11-12 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 11/12/10 6:56 PM, markpole...@gmail.com markpole...@gmail.com wrote: Does this require a change here? Yes. This was written in July with commit #6734448, and Neil fixed the issue two weeks ago with commit #93c53eb. Best to fix it now or make a note of it somewhere other than this

Re: vert. spacing: Rename properties (lily, scm). (issue3031041)

2010-11-11 Thread tdanielsmusic
In general I agree with Carl's comments. I've suggested in a couple of places where I'd like to see the IR material truncated. The full description of the properties should go in the NR, perhaps in an appendix if you think it's too technical.

Re: vert. spacing: Rename properties (lily, scm). (issue3031041)

2010-11-11 Thread markpolesky
Carl and Trevor - Thanks for looking this over. Here's a new patch set. I decided to revert the revisions to the NR for the moment. That's easy enough to revise later on. For now, I'd like to push this version, and make any smaller changes later. The basic differences from the previous patch

Re: vert. spacing: Rename properties (lily, scm). (issue3031041)

2010-11-11 Thread Carl . D . Sorensen
Thanks again for your work on this, Mark. I think the spacing-alist description belongs in one of the grob properties; it's the value of a property, not a property of an interface. I much prefer this to the previous patch. I had an idea about the name of the StaffGrouper staff-staff-spacing

vert. spacing: Rename properties (lily, scm). (issue3031041)

2010-11-10 Thread markpolesky
Reviewers: , Message: Here's a new patch-set for renaming the vertical spacing grob properties. But... I'm kind of going in circles trying to decide where to put some things: 1) individual alist-key descriptions 2) individual grob-property descriptions 3) non-staff line reference-points I

Re: vert. spacing: Rename properties (lily, scm). (issue3031041)

2010-11-10 Thread Carl . D . Sorensen
On 2010/11/11 03:53:44, Mark Polesky wrote: Here's a new patch-set for renaming the vertical spacing grob properties. But... I'm kind of going in circles trying to decide where to put some things: 1) individual alist-key descriptions 2) individual grob-property descriptions 3) non-staff

Re: vert. spacing: Rename properties (lily, scm). (issue3031041)

2010-11-10 Thread Carl . D . Sorensen
Many of my general comments were in my reply to your message. There are some specifics in the files here. Thanks, Carl http://codereview.appspot.com/3031041/diff/30001/lily/axis-group-interface.cc File lily/axis-group-interface.cc (right):