Re: docs glossary

2009-07-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
Werner wrote Monday, July 27, 2009 12:09 PM 1.220 ossia add: There can also be cue notes in the same staff. See also: cue-notes 1.72 add: Also used to give alternatives (e.g. for smaller hands or instruments not able to play as low/high, as desired). See also: ossia Thanks for the

Re: Music Glossary: updated italian version

2009-07-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Federico, you wrote Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:24 PM Last month I started translating the doc into italian, so the Music Glossary was the first doc I checked. I have a list of the missing italian words, as well as some corrections of existing ones. All these modifications have been already

Re: add warning in docs for \relative inside \repeat ?

2009-07-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:01 PM Should we add a Known issues and warnings somewhere in NR 1.4 (Repeats) for this issue? % bad (don't put \relative inside \repeat) { \repeat unfold 2 \relative { c d e f } } % good \relative { \repeat unfold 2 { c d e f } } I added this

Re: markup and bar number

2009-07-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Thursday, July 30, 2009 3:42 PM This should be mentioned in the docs. It already is. LM 4.4.3. - Mark Trevor Alexander Kobel wrote: If I use markup at the last note of a bar and the next bar has a bar number appearing, then the bar number appears above the text

Re: arpeggio example in Notation Reference - tiny edit

2009-07-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Federico Bruni wrote Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:12 PM I would have a very tiny edit for the documentation. It's a very small detail and normal users of lilypond will laugh at me, but I think it's useful for newbies (like me). Notation Reference, 1.3.3, section Arpeggio: This is the second

Re: LilyPond concept glossary?

2009-07-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:06 PM It would be nice to have some central place that explains some internals concepts. Here are examples of things that a new developer might have to ask about, or perhaps spend a long time disentangling: grob prob smob output-def callback

Re: LM 5.2 redistribute

2009-07-31 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Friday, July 31, 2009 3:05 AM Could you redistribute the material in LM 5.2 Scores and parts elsewhere in the LM? Maybe beef up LM 2.4.1, maybe insert a new LM 2.4.2 that continues the scores and parts theme, maybe something in LM 3... whatever. Done. I made a new

Re: LM 5.2 redistribute

2009-07-31 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Friday, July 31, 2009 10:50 AM On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 09:18:45AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: It also uses \include, which isn't introduced anywhere, but Woah, seriously? LM 3.1 is perfect for that. Anyway, I'll leave this for you. OK Perhaps we should move

Re: LM 5.2 redistribute

2009-07-31 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Friday, July 31, 2009 12:47 PM On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:00:53PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: Graham Percival wrote Friday, July 31, 2009 10:50 AM Besides, suggestions for writing files totally _sounds_ like usage information to me. :) Not sure about totally

Re: LM 5.2 redistribute

2009-07-31 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Friday, July 31, 2009 3:32 PM Graham Percival wrote Friday, July 31, 2009 12:47 PM Ah, I'd forgotten about those. Yes, 5.1.4 and 5.1.5 would be better off in LM 3. Or maybe LM 4, since they both discuss tweaks. OK. I'll move 5.1.4 and 5.1.5 out sometime in the next

Re: parser variables persist beyond { } scope

2009-07-31 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Friday, July 31, 2009 7:10 PM Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: No. In the specific case, I'd recommend making another music function that takes an argument, so you can pass the 15/16 explicitly, without mucking with variables. So it sounds like you believe that one way or

Re: parser variables persist beyond { } scope

2009-07-31 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Friday, July 31, 2009 8:51 PM I'm okay with it. But I'd like to see what the others think. Am I correct in thinking that if an object returns #t for this test from within a .ly file, it qualifies as a parser variable? #(defined? 'object-name) Sorry, I don't know. Anyone

Re: Lilypond Syntax Development and 3.0

2009-08-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, July 27, 2009 11:22 AM Lilypond Syntax Development (tentative name) However, I think we now have a critical mass of interested users, experience with the syntax, and developers. I therefore propose to have a Grand Project devoted to stabilizing the lilypond

Re: doc revision

2009-08-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Thanks Werner. I've added a mention of the CueNotes context with an example of its use for rendering a sequence of alternative notes in NR 1.6.3. Trevor - Original Message - From: Werner mey@web.de To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 12:05 PM Subject: doc

Re: git hang-ups

2009-08-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Saturday, August 01, 2009 9:09 PM Patrick McCarty wrote: $ git pull ssh://sv/srv/git/lilypond.git master fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly Well, that URI is kind of bogus. :-) It worked fine yesterday. It works fine here today too. That's not the problem.

Re: git hang-ups

2009-08-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Sunday, August 02, 2009 1:43 AM Trevor Daniels wrote: Error reading commits: child killed: unknown signal I've never seen this error message, but it suggests a problem with the git repo. Try verifying the database. git gui/Repository/Verify Database With that, I get

Re: git hang-ups

2009-08-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:03 PM So I did git fetch and got this: $ git fetch The authenticity of 'git.sv.gnu.org (199.232.41.69)' can't be established. RSA key fingerprint is Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? This means the known-hosts file

Re: git hang-ups

2009-08-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Monday, August 03, 2009 2:30 AM Mark Polesky wrote: 199.232.41.69 ssh-rsa B3NzaC1yc2E ... It's the public key of the Savannah server. In case you've lost it, I've attached one. My copy of the public key looks fine. Any other ideas? Not shots in the dark.

Re: harmonicDots

2009-08-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote ages ago on Monday, October 06, 2008 8:00 PM On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 19:53:10 +0100 Neil Puttock n.putt...@gmail.com wrote: 2008/10/6 Graham Percival gper...@gmail.com: Why isn't \set HarmonicDots = ##t set by default? IMO we should normally print the dot in

Re: git hang-ups

2009-08-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Monday, August 03, 2009 4:25 PM Graham Percival wrote: What does: git reset --hard origin or git reset --hard origin master do? I'd expect one of those to set you to a working state. (NB: by I'd expect, I mean as a user, I think the program should do this.

Re: git hang-ups

2009-08-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Monday, August 03, 2009 11:38 PM Trevor Daniels wrote: These commands will fail. The correct command is $ git reset --hard origin/master It gets up to 50%, then crashes: Checking out files: 50% (963/1926) (here the Windows error box pops up) Once I close the pop-up

Re: git hang-ups

2009-08-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:23 AM Does anyone know -- is there any harm in just generating a new SSH key pair? No harm at all. I think my modem gives me a different IP address from time to time. It (well, your ISP) will - that's normal. I could be making that up, and

Re: LilyPond concept glossary?

2009-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:16 PM Mark Polesky wrote Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:06 PM It would be nice to have some central place that explains some internals concepts. Here are examples of things that a new developer might have to ask about, or perhaps spend a long time

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl, Marc After the long discussion about naming the new cross-head function and associated predefs I see you have retained deadNote as the base name. I thought the outcome of the discussion was to use xHead or crossHead for the base name with deadNote being defined to invoke the base function

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Wednesday, August 05, 2009 1:42 PM On 8/5/09 2:44 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Carl, Marc After the long discussion about naming the new cross-head function and associated predefs I see you have retained deadNote as the base name. I thought

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Wednesday, August 05, 2009 1:42 PM On 8/5/09 2:44 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Carl, Marc After the long discussion about naming the new cross-head function and associated predefs I see you have retained deadNote as the base name. I thought

Re: LilyPond concept glossary?

2009-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:09 AM Trevor Daniels wrote Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:16 PM Mark Polesky wrote Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:06 PM It would be nice to have some central place that explains some internals concepts. ... It would be nice to have a LilyPond

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Wednesday, August 05, 2009 3:07 PM On 8/5/09 7:22 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: I think it was a pity that the groundwork for a more generic approach was not laid down right away, so we could have easily added the aliases for all the other uses

Unable to use git

2009-08-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:21 PM I've not been able to connect to git via SSH since Saturday, and nothing I've tried has worked. I'd like to take care of that first, but I'm out of ideas. Can you remind us what you have tried so far? Re-boot (obviously yes?) Obtain

Re: [frogs] Regression in docs: Output-suffix does not work as documented in AU 3.2.1

2009-08-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:51 AM On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 12:12:59AM +0100, Ian Hulin wrote: This is AU section 3.2.1 -- If ‘filename.ly’ contains more than one \score block, then the rest of the scores will be output in numbered files, starting with

Broken refs

2009-08-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham I've just pushed another fix for broken refs resulting from your doc reorganisation. As there seems to be no replacement nodes all I can do is comment them out with a FIXME. Any chance you could add replacement nodes as you go so we can fix the links properly rather than scattering

Re: LilyPond concept glossary?

2009-08-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
John Mandereau wrote Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:47 PM At least one of the terms listed by Mark is introduced in the Learning Manual: grob in 4.1.2 Objects and interfaces. I see this glossary could be a quick reference that briefly defines each term and gives cross-references to

Re: Broken refs

2009-08-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:06 AM On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 09:50:56AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: I've just pushed another fix for broken refs resulting from your doc reorganisation. Oops, I forgot that I need to touch foo.tely before testing. That said, it would

Re: Broken refs

2009-08-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
John Mandereau wrote Thursday, August 06, 2009 12:06 PM Le jeudi 06 ao=C3=BBt 2009 =C3=A0 11:35 +0100, Trevor Daniels a =C3=A9crit = : Have you tried building docs inside the source tree? No; I'm on Windows Vista, so building isn't an option, is it? I generated my own scripts so I can

Re: Broken refs

2009-08-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
John, you wrote Thursday, August 06, 2009 3:01 PM No; I'm on Windows Vista, so building isn't an option, is it? No, but you can still run check-xrefs and fix-xrefs, but it will complain about missing files markup*.tely, internals.tely and so on. Good. In that case I'll leave them for

Re: 2.13.4 release soon?

2009-08-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Thursday, August 06, 2009 3:26 PM Anything holding up 2.13.4? By now there are so many new things that I'd like to try, but I'm a non-compiler, so... I'm stuck too. Neil updated the LSR today, so now lots of snippets require 2.13.4 and I can no longer compile the docs

Re: 2.13.4 release soon?

2009-08-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil Puttock wrote Thursday, August 06, 2009 9:58 PM 2009/8/6 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk: I'm stuck too. Neil updated the LSR today, so now lots of snippets require 2.13.4 and I can no longer compile the docs easily, so can't check any edits I make. I'm sorry as always when

Re: conditionally eliminating lyric extender

2009-08-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Kieren I'm not sure I understand the need for this. Maybe I'm missing something (it wouldn't be unusual :) I would not normally use a lyric extender unless the syllable had an extended duration over several notes or was sung to a long note. This occurs far less frequently than a 2-note melisma.

Re: 2.13.4 release soon?

2009-08-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham wrote Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:53 PM Sorry, not this time. The purpose of the unstable releases is to aid the development effort; it doesn't make sense to hold Trevor and Mark back just because the doc build is in flux. The MinGW build that Neil made is fine, Graham, so there's

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Friday, August 07, 2009 2:49 PM On 8/5/09 7:19 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Carl Sorensen wrote Wednesday, August 05, 2009 1:42 PM If we decide to use this same function for the general case of switching to a cross-shaped notehead, then we

Re: conditionally eliminating lyric extender

2009-08-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Kieren, I'm not sure I understand the need for this. I would not normally use a lyric extender unless the syllable had an extended duration over several notes or was sung to a long note. This occurs far less frequently than a 2-note melisma. Do you attach lyric extenders unconditionally to

Re: HTML formatting for *all* LSR snippets descriptions?

2009-08-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Friday, August 07, 2009 9:45 PM So, I'm thinking that we'd better junk these pseudo-options, and ask Seba to make HTML formatting allowed in all snippet descriptions. Thoughts? Sounds reasonable. Do we make it clear anywhere what html markup is permitted in

Re: git hang-ups

2009-08-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Patrick McCarty wrote Saturday, August 08, 2009 5:00 AM On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 08:39:16PM -0700, Mark Polesky wrote: Patrick McCarty wrote: I've just tested git's shallow cloning feature. It's pretty neat. :-) From what I can see, shallow clones would be okay for *casual*

Re: \context for named Staff

2009-08-09 Thread Trevor Daniels
Kieren MacMillan Sunday, August 09, 2009 4:47 AM From my point of view the main use for smallStaff (or whatever it gets called) is for ossia staves. Except IIRC ossia staves and solo/cue staves are usually of different sizes, yes? In scores for a capella vocal music a piano

Re: alternatives not taken into account in automatic accidentals

2009-08-09 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Sunday, August 09, 2009 7:31 PM Well, that's not a functional barline, it's just printed. It's similar to putting :| which prints a repeat sign, but doesn't cause LilyPond to recognize the previous section as repeated. I guess NR 1.2.5 could make this clearer. original

Re: Changing autobeaming for 4/4 time

2009-08-09 Thread Trevor Daniels
Patrick McCarty wrote Sunday, August 09, 2009 3:36 AM On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 07:21:42PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: Hmm, I just realized that the inconsistency still exists, even with my patch. Here's an example: \relative c'' { a8 a a a a8 a a a a16 a a8 a a a8 a16 a

Re: getting source with git

2009-08-09 Thread Trevor Daniels
Patrick McCarty wrote Saturday, August 08, 2009 5:33 PM On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 01:59:50AM -0700, Graham Percival wrote: A few people talked about browsing the history, which surprised me. Whenever I want to look at history, I use the web git interface. But evidently other people don't

Re: Changing autobeaming for 4/4 time

2009-08-09 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Sunday, August 09, 2009 10:59 PM Could the two of you please take some of these examples and beam them manually so that I can see what they *should* do? I'll then try to figure out why the autobeam engraver doesn't do it. Some explanation as to *why* it should work the

Re: Changing autobeaming for 4/4 time

2009-08-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil Puttock wrote Monday, August 10, 2009 12:31 AM 2009/8/10 Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com: I wonder why we are seeing different beaming patterns? I think all of your manually-beamed patterns are correct though. Trevor's using the MinGW build I posted a few days ago, so it's missing

Re: the r in git pull -r

2009-08-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, August 10, 2009 9:18 AM On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 08:45:22AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: Graham Percival wrote Monday, August 10, 2009 12:48 AM I maoing hate git. Git is fine; the complexity comes from the baroque structures in LilyPond. Let's be thankful

Re: Changing autobeaming for 4/4 time

2009-08-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Monday, August 10, 2009 8:49 AM Neil Puttock wrote Monday, August 10, 2009 12:31 AM 2009/8/10 Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com: I wonder why we are seeing different beaming patterns? I think all of your manually-beamed patterns are correct though. Trevor's using

Re: Changing autobeaming for 4/4 time

2009-08-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl, you wrote Monday, August 10, 2009 10:58 PM On 8/10/09 9:14 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: With all Carl's mods applied just the expected two inconsistencies remain: \relative c'' { a8 a a16 a a8 a a a a16 a | % wrong, should be ... a8 a a16[ a a8] a a a[ a16

Re: Changing autobeaming for 4/4 time

2009-08-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
that this is a more fundamental problem. Trevor - Original Message - From: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu To: Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk; Neil Puttock n.putt...@gmail.com; Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com Cc: lilypond-devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 11:25 PM

Re: update from the git battlefield

2009-08-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:25 AM I'm git-weary but still alive. Johannes spent *hours* debugging my problem, and eventually traced it to an undiscovered bug in gitk that only affects Microsoft Windows... Nice to have you operational again. Thanks Johannes! Can you say

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Friday, August 07, 2009 2:49 PM The generic approach has now been pushed to git 247f0b6d46fd8f3253a99f95a70ce14345daa5f9 There's a generic styledNoteHeads music function that applies a note style to music whether or not it's in a chord construct. deadNotes and palmMute

Re: update from the git battlefield

2009-08-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Johannes Schindelin wrote Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:51 PM On Tue, 11 Aug 2009, Trevor Daniels wrote: Mark Polesky wrote Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:25 AM I'm git-weary but still alive. Johannes spent *hours* debugging my problem, and eventually traced it to an undiscovered bug in gitk

Re: LilyPond concept glossary?

2009-08-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Tuesday, August 11, 2009 7:18 PM My concept glossary idea is now called a technical glossary. I thought the name was fine when it was suggested, but now I'm realizing something -- I'd also like it to list terms that are not specifically dealing with LilyPond *internals*.

Doc commits

2009-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Mark Good to see you pushing again! But could you preface commits which affect only docs with Docs: please. It helps code developers with better things to do to skip uninteresting commits. Trevor ___ lilypond-devel mailing list

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen Friday, August 07, 2009 2:49 PM The generic approach has now been pushed to git 247f0b6d46fd8f3253a99f95a70ce14345daa5f9 There's a generic styledNoteHeads music function that applies a note style to music whether or not it's in a chord construct. Carl, I am part-way through

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:32 PM And if we're ever going to move it to a postfix operator (which is one of the goals of the GLISS project), now is the time, before we get a strong codebase of music function applications. I'm beginning to wonder whether this is a

Re: patch to fix text color in PDF output

2009-08-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Andrew Hawryluk wrote Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:18 AM Long ago I noticed that the text in our PDF manuals is fully black, which results in rough-looking text when printed: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2008-10/msg00059.html Attached is a patch which corrects this, and

Re: fixing the command index (was Re: [PATCH] Add @funindex for \fffff.)

2009-08-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Saturday, August 15, 2009 3:26 AM 3) Make the command index strictly a *command* index. Add a separate property index strictly for properties. It could even be on the same page -- just the existence of a menu with the two different node names should be enough to help

Re: LilyPond strings and \markup

2009-08-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark I'm top-posting as I'm not answering any of your specific questions. If you really want to understand how data types are defined you will need to understand how lexers and parsers work first. To help, I've just added a few more clues to the Technical glossary. Then you will find all

Re: `installed files' issues

2009-08-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Werner LEMBERG wrote Monday, August 17, 2009 6:42 PM I've just seen this change in a recent commit: +...@seealso + +Installed Files: +...@file{lily/parser.yy} IMHO, this is not correct: lily/parser.yy does *not* get installed at all! Either we introduce a special macro which points to

Re: Automatically checking regtests (was: Re: Minor releases?)

2009-08-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, August 17, 2009 10:35 PM On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 05:17:08PM +0200, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: Am Montag, 17. August 2009 16:08:36 schrieb Michael Käppler: (nobody checks the regression tests for each release, for example -- and that's trivially done with

Re: unclear code comment

2009-08-18 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:04 AM Mark Polesky wrote: What does this mean? ly/music-functions-init.ly 476 %% Todo: 477 %% doing 478 %% define-music-function in a .scm causes crash. Nevermind. I'm an idiot. I get it. Actually, strike that. What does this comment

Re: Fwd: GDP Docs compilation FAILED (2009.08.19-04:27)

2009-08-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:00 PM I get the same thing even with make. I've reverted Trevor's commit, although I have no clue what's wrong. These errors generally mean that the @menu wasn't updated, but he did that perfectly (as far as I can see). I'm baffled, but

Re: organizing property-init.ly

2009-08-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:59 AM I made an attempt at cleaning up property-init.ly. I included my revised file (not a patch) Mostly I'm curious to know if there's anything I'm doing here that goes against coding conventions or anything like that. Or if I'm making things

The Prob class

2009-08-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
I'm trying to complete the 'prob' entry in the Technical glossary. From a position of ignorance I've come up with this: PRoperty OBjects, or @strong{probs} for short, are instances of the @code{Prob} class, a simple base class for objects which have mutable and immutable property alists. The

Re: \context for named Staff

2009-08-23 Thread Trevor Daniels
Marc Hohl wrote Saturday, August 22, 2009 7:30 PM Jay Anderson schrieb: [...] So what do you think? Should the SmallStaff just be left as a snippet? If it is a snippet ideally I'd want to do something like: \include small_staff.lyi \score { \new SmallStaff {...} } How would one make

Re: horizontal offset bug of skip markups

2009-08-23 Thread Trevor Daniels
Werner LEMBERG wrote Saturday, August 22, 2009 7:23 AM There is a horizontal offset bug if a markup is attached to a skip. Look at this small example: \paper { ragged-right = ##f } foo = { s1 \time 7/8 s8*7^foobar \time 10/8 } bar = { R1 R8*7 } \context Staff

Re: [PATCH] Enhancement: automatic polyphony in different \...Staffcontexts

2009-08-23 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Sunday, August 23, 2009 11:16 PM Carl Sorensen wrote: Here's what I recommend (I didn't used to do this, but it seems to be a better way to work). git branch newfeature git checkout newfeature git rebase -i master git rebase -I SHA1-ID-of-the-parent-of-branch-newfeature

Re: [PATCH] Enhancement: automatic polyphony in different \...Staffcontexts

2009-08-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Monday, August 24, 2009 1:25 AM From: Trevor Daniels [t.dani...@treda.co.uk] Not sure these rebases are necessary if you are going to use cherrypick rather than merge. Yes, your method works OK. I use the rebase to get all of my work into a single commit, instead

Re: horizontal offset bug of skip markups

2009-08-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Werner LEMBERG wrote Monday, August 24, 2009 3:08 PM This effect seems to be a consequence of ragged-right = ##f together with a second bar containing a single note (or space). When the second bar is stretched to fill the line the note gets displaced almost to the centre of the bar. This

Change to Split in manuals?

2009-08-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
It seems there has been a change in the splitting of manuals on kainhofer. They no longer split at numbered sections but only at the second level. So the whole of Pitches, for example, comes as a single html page. Is this deliberate or an error? Trevor

Re: horizontal offset bug of skip markups

2009-08-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Werner LEMBERG wrote Monday, August 24, 2009 9:52 PM I would argue against introducing this complication. Positioning spacer rests differently to notes of the same duration does not seem a good idea. Well, my example shows that it actually uses a *different* position compared to the

Re: horizontal offset bug of skip markups

2009-08-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Werner LEMBERG wrote Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:52 AM Both the note and the spacer in the second bar are positioned in roughly the centre of the bar, although interestingly not quite in identical positions. I don't know why they differ slightly, but you see my point. Here's another

Re: priority problem \fermataMarkup vs. text markup

2009-09-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Werner LEMBERG wrote Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:44 AM Hmm. I currently can't imagine a situation where a value 0 is needed, so I vote to remove the setting of #'outside-staff-priority for MultiMeasureRestText -- however, I'm not sure whether this has any influence to issue #495 (this

Re: priority problem \fermataMarkup vs. text markup

2009-09-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Werner LEMBERG wrote Tuesday, September 01, 2009 4:30 PM It seems sensible to have a distinct, lower, value, but something like 40 would place it below everything else while retaining some future flexibility. OK. Shall I commit this or will you do that? Werner, I'll do it, but I've had

Re: [PATCH] Extended documentation on Turkish classical music and makam

2009-09-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Joe, you wrote Tuesday, September 01, 2009 8:49 PM Attached is a patch to extend the NR documentation on Turkish classical music as defined in the file makam.ly. Thanks for this, but I'm afraid the patch has whitespace errors and also fails to apply. The console output says: Applying

Re: priority problem \fermataMarkup vs. text markup

2009-09-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Wednesday, September 02, 2009 1:06 PM On 9/2/09 2:41 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: So instead I propose to change the definition of \fermataMarkup to: fermataMarkup = #(make-music 'MultiMeasureTextEvent 'tweaks (list ; Set the 'text

Re: [PATCH] Extended documentation on Turkish classical music and makam

2009-09-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Joe, you wrote Wednesday, September 02, 2009 4:53 PM Trevor Daniels wrote: Thanks for this, but I'm afraid the patch has whitespace errors and also fails to apply. I don't understand what 'whitespace errors' are -- sorry, this is my first time using texinfo and git on a project. If you

Re: [patch] Spanish updates to MG

2009-09-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Francisco Vila wrote Wednesday, September 02, 2009 4:59 PM Hello, here are some updates to the Spanish definitions of the Music Glossary. Thanks. Applied to origin/master. I've found that church modes are not translated: there is no reference to Ionian, Dorian etc in other languages

Re: [PATCH] Extended documentation on Turkish classical music and makam

2009-09-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Joseph Wakeling wrote Wednesday, September 02, 2009 7:48 PM I think the attached patches should work. They should lack trailing whitespace and I've used git format-patch origin which I hope will generate the patch against the head of the master branch. (Still getting the hang of git; I'm a

Re: [PATCH] Extended documentation on Turkish classical music and makam

2009-09-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Joe, you wrote Thursday, September 03, 2009 7:20 AM Trevor Daniels wrote: Thanks Joe. Initially these patches didn't apply either, but I traced the reason to their having DOS (CRLF) line endings rather than Unix (LF) line endings. When I changed that they applied fine. (This actually might

Re: [PATCH] Extended documentation on Turkish classical music and makam

2009-09-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Joe, you wroteThursday, September 03, 2009 10:35 AM Trevor Daniels wrote: I then looked at the actual mail message. You're using Thunderbird with inline attachments and quoted-printable encoding. This is the problem. I seem to remember Jonathan Kulp discovering that Thunderbird messed

Re: [PATCH] Extended documentation on Turkish classical music and makam

2009-09-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Joseph Wakeling wrote Thursday, September 03, 2009 7:22 PM ... if the previous patch doesn't work, I hope the one attached to this mail will. Let me know how it goes. :-) Still has DOS line endings :( But it's really not a problem - I can easily change them before applying. I didn't

Re: [PATCH] Contemporary music: overview of new specialist notationsection

2009-09-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Joe, you wrote Friday, September 04, 2009 12:42 AM As discussed on the -user list, this is a patch to start a section in the Specialist Notation chapter on contemporary music. I really hope that this patch (or rather, this email containing the patch:-) has avoided the DOS line endings.

kainhofer docs not updating

2009-09-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold The last doc update on your server was on 1 Sep - has something broken? I see there are several broken links following Graham's recent reorganisation. Let me know if this is the problem and I'll fix them. Trevor ___ lilypond-devel

Re: kainhofer docs not updating

2009-09-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Friday, September 04, 2009 10:03 PM On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 09:54:38PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: The last doc update on your server was on 1 Sep - has something broken? I see there are several broken links following Graham's recent reorganisation. Let me know

Re: [PATCH] Contemporary music: pitch and harmony.

2009-09-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Joe, you wrote Friday, September 04, 2009 3:49 PM Hope the previous message works. It's a small, incremental change, just to see if git-send-email will work where Thunderbird clearly doesn't ... :-) If this is an acceptable way to send patches, shall I add a section to the CG

Re: kainhofer docs not updating

2009-09-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote Friday, September 04, 2009 10:51 PM Am Freitag, 4. September 2009 23:12:00 schrieb Trevor Daniels: Graham Percival wrote Friday, September 04, 2009 10:03 PM Oh, I see it now. Remember that we currently need to touch any docs we want updated. I've just done

Re: kainhofer docs not updating

2009-09-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:43 AM On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 12:35:06AM +0200, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: Am Samstag, 5. September 2009 00:12:44 schrieb Trevor Daniels: Reinhold Kainhofer wrote Friday, September 04, 2009 10:51 PM It seems that the NR was really last

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Sunday, September 06, 2009 3:46 AM On 9/5/09 7:12 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: Hmm. This could be a meaningless semantic quibble, or it could be something that's fundamental to the docs, GLISS, and development in general. Is a change to the

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Saturday, September 05, 2009 2:13 PM On 9/5/09 1:13 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: No. It's much easier to write documentation than it is to add commands. I would not want to delay useful additions to the documentation or to put off a keen documentation

Re: [PATCH] Doc: sketch of topics for contemporary approaches to rhythm

2009-09-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Thanks Joe - applied and pushed to origin/master. The attached patch still had DOS endings, no problem with that, but it lacked a commit message and your email address, so I had to add those. Your previous method of creating patches included these in the patch. Could you use that method in

The \\ construct for simultaneous voices

2009-09-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
I've finally got around to thinking about the introduction to parallel voices in the Learning Manual - currently sections 3.2.1 and 3.2.2. You'll remember the many discussions about the two constructs - explicit voices and the \\ construct, and the final agreement to introduce explicit voices

Re: [PATCH] Doc: Further Reading for contemporary music

2009-09-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Joseph Wakeling wrote Sunday, September 06, 2009 10:36 PM OK, I think I've cracked the problem of patches with Thunderbird. The problem is that Thunderbird takes .patch files to be of mime-type text/x-diff. Renaming the file to end in .txt changes its opinion of the file type and allows

Re: [PATCH] Doc: Further Reading for contemporary music

2009-09-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, September 07, 2009 12:53 AM On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 11:22:42PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: Joseph Wakeling wrote Sunday, September 06, 2009 10:36 PM This probably _is_ something which should be in the docs as it's not something you would imagine would

Re: [PATCH] Doc: Further Reading for contemporary music

2009-09-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Joseph Wakeling wrote Monday, September 07, 2009 12:41 AM Joseph Wakeling wrote: the duplication of two @nodes called 'Further reading' may break the doc build -- just checking that now. Duplicate node names in the same manual do break the build. ... which the attached patch should fix.

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