Re: User Experience Engineering Tutorials

2006-01-11 Thread Riccardo Cohen
I totally agree. On one hand I thank all the 10 years team for developping such a good software including installation, on the other hand I am a bit lost with the syntax. Look that I'm a programmer since about 25 years, and I found quite difficult to learn lilypond syntax (I must be a very bad

Re: User Experience Engineering

2006-01-11 Thread Aurèle Duda
Perhaps something like a tkinter little gui with some useful options to control output format (pdf,ps), a field for input file and a __link to the documentation__ ? (and an OK button, of course ;-) Not a gui to control every aspects of lilypond output, but a window which give to the first-time

PDF size in 2.7.27

2006-01-11 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
Hello list, I have noticed that the size of the pdfs produced by lily 2.7.27 on (windows xp) is much bigger than in previous versions. I have tested the same file unchanged with 2.7.18 Win 44 KB 2.7.23 Win 44 KB 2.7.27 Win 1.220 KB Perhaps there is something wrong? The output looks

RE: Three Questions

2006-01-11 Thread Nahum Wengrov
-Original Message- From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 21:40 To: Nahum Wengrov Cc: 'Lilypond Mailing List' Subject: Re: Three Questions Mats Bengtsson Wrote: Please always tell what LilyPond version you are using, to be sure to get relevant

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-11 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Friday 06 January 2006 02.22, Linda Seltzer wrote: User Experience engineering does not require a GUI or an abandonment of the programming and typesetting approach. It does not require the abandonment of providing detailed features. What it requires is that the language and documentation

Re: Syntactic synonyms, or no?

2006-01-11 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Erik Sandberg wrote: Also, there are some limitations with the \with construct (for example, \consists bugreport please. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Inputting special symbols

2006-01-11 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Tuesday 10 January 2006 05.15, liang seng wrote: Hi, I'm just wondering if we can use utf-8 to input Chinese (or other Asian) characters as well? Yes, see input/sakura-sakura.ly -- Erik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Syntactic synonyms, or no?

2006-01-11 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Wednesday 11 January 2006 14.20, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Erik Sandberg wrote: Also, there are some limitations with the \with construct (for example, \consists bugreport please. sorry, I remembered incorrectly (it is \accepts that doesn't work inside \with, see with-accepts.ly in bug

Re: Inputting special symbols

2006-01-11 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Thursday 05 January 2006 12.25, Gilles wrote: Hello. The problem I've had with that is that when I define eaigu = the utf-8 double byte for é and then (later) say \markup sym \eaigu trique what I get in the PDF file is sym é trique because Lilypond

Re: Inputting special symbols

2006-01-11 Thread Gilles
Hi. because Lilypond inserts a space between any two markup components. I noticed that too, and I'd tend to consider this as a bug. no, it's the intended behaviour of markup. It could be possible to write a markup function that concatenates markup words, something like \concatenate

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-11 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Erik Sandberg wrote: Lilypond doesn't ship with an editor on the Windows platform. The probably it actually does. It's called lilypad. It's comparable to notepad, functionality-wise. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen

Re: feature request: semi-automatic vertical spacement

2006-01-11 Thread Trevor Bača
On 1/10/06, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicolas Sceaux wrote: Han-Wen, It turns out that manually setting vertical spacement tweak is way too fragile. They are easily broken when changing LilyPond version for instance. Or if one set manually all tweaks, and then is told:

Re: lilypond 2.7.27-1 doesn't install and work

2006-01-11 Thread Paul Scott
Enrico Licini wrote: Hi, I tryed to install lilypond-2.7.27-1.linux.sh but it doesn't work. Opening the file with vim, I saw that there was an error in line 85: $lilydir -xzf should be $lilydir -xjf Another problem is in the file lilypond in ~/bin: the line should end with $* But I am not

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-11 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: it actually does. It's called lilypad. It's comparable to notepad, functionality-wise. The idea was to extend it with a Run button or menu, but I ran out of time when doing the first native windows port. Now we have the nicer lilypad on MacOS, and IWBN to have

Re: Three Questions

2006-01-11 Thread Gilles
Where can I find the Regression Test Document, http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.6/input/regression/collated-files.html and the Mailing List Archives? http://lilypond.org/web/documentation Gilles ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Inputting special symbols

2006-01-11 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Gilles wrote: Then, maybe could you explain the rationale behind the intention? I.e for outputting the opposite of the user's input: 1. Add a space where there was none If you have a suggestion how to improve this, I will gladly take patches. The relevant code is in scm/markup.scm. 2.

Re: feature request: semi-automatic vertical spacement

2006-01-11 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Trevor Bača wrote: The pagebreak/linebreak/stretching is put into an alist, and stored with the system in a table ... will it also be possible to set the *absolute* page position of each staff (and therefore each system) on a page-by-page basis (by means of some reference point, possibly

\sacredHarpHeads are not recognizable to Sacred Harp Singers

2006-01-11 Thread Laura Conrad
In Lilypond 2.6.6, \sacredHarpHeads is defined (in ly/property-init.ly) as: \set shapeNoteStyles = ##(#f #f mi #f fa la #f) This is really wierd. The shapes aren't going to help anyone sightread if *three* adjacent notes are going to have the same shape. The normal way a shape note

RE: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17

2006-01-11 Thread Nahum Wengrov
-Original Message- From: ... On Behalf Of Han-Wen Nienhuys Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 18:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Linda Seltzer; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 38, Issue 17 Erik Sandberg wrote: Lilypond doesn't ship with an editor on the Windows

RE: Three Questions

2006-01-11 Thread Nahum Wengrov
2) How can I add parentheses around notes? (Look at the scanned image -- link below -- to see what I mean. It's the two connected 16ths at the end of the 2nd line, the 1st one with lyrics.) Well, sort of. See the example called stencil-hacking.ly in the Regression Test document. If you search

Re: feature request: semi-automatic vertical spacement

2006-01-11 Thread Trevor Bača
On 1/11/06, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trevor Bača wrote: The pagebreak/linebreak/stretching is put into an alist, and stored with the system in a table ... will it also be possible to set the *absolute* page position of each staff (and therefore each system) on a

newbie:poor quality output

2006-01-11 Thread debian
Please, I have just started using Lilypond (2.4.5) on a debian sarge system and I am getting on reasonably well with the syntax. But, the quality of my pdf files is very poor. Notes and staff lines etc look ugly. Probably this is a font problem, but I do not know how to proceed. Thanks Joe

Parenthese (was: RE: Three Questions)

2006-01-11 Thread Nahum Wengrov
2) How can I add parentheses around notes? (Look at the scanned image -- link below -- to see what I mean. It's the two connected 16ths at the end of the 2nd line, the 1st one with lyrics.) Well, sort of. See the example called stencil-hacking.ly in the Regression Test document. If you search