Re: barline problem

2006-06-14 Thread Stephen
- Original Message - From: "Walter Hofmeister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 12:29 PM Subject: Re: barline problem On 6/14/06 10:22 AM, "Dewdman42" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You are of course welcome to your opinion, but you have not changed my mind. I

Re: barline problem

2006-06-14 Thread Dewdman42
No offense was intended. I think Lilypond is a super product when it comes to printing. Sorry, but the PDF output is less than satisfactory. Sorry if my choice of words was found to be offensive, none was intended other than expressing my impression. I realize lilypond is totally free and hav

Re: barline problem

2006-06-14 Thread Eduardo Vieira
Hello users, Ghostscript comes with tools for ps/pdf conversion into several formats. Xpdf converts pdf->ps->pdf. They all run in Windows. Another thing to try is to convert the PDF into PDF again, using print to PDF tools. There are many like that for free, like PDF995. I may be wrong but Te

Re: barline problem

2006-06-14 Thread Dewdman42
Well, I looked up those two tools and they appear to be linux only? Anyone know if there are windows versions of these tools? Seems like these tools basically do about the same thing as if I use the --png option with lilypond to produce a png file, except that the result is output in a pagenated

Re: barline problem

2006-06-14 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi, Daniel: I don't think these are viable solutions. Thanks for doing the tests, and reporting back! It will be interesting to see how this thread is "resolved" (i.e., what the final solution turns out to be). Best regards, Kieren. ___ lilypo

Re: barline problem

2006-06-14 Thread Daniel Johnson
Dewdman42 wrote: Oh that is very interesting. I have not heard of these utilities ps2ps or pdf2pdf. I'll google them and try it. Thanks. Kieren MacMillan wrote: Have you passed a Lilypond-outputted PDF (or the PS) through ps2ps (or pdf2pdf, etc.)? ps2ps + ps2pdf results in a file t

Re: barline problem

2006-06-14 Thread Dewdman42
Oh that is very interesting. I have not heard of these utilities ps2ps or pdf2pdf. I'll google them and try it. Thanks. Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > Have you passed a Lilypond-outputted PDF (or the PS) through ps2ps > (or pdf2pdf, etc.)? > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabb

Re: barline problem

2006-06-14 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi, Dewdman! I need better PDF output. Have you passed a Lilypond-outputted PDF (or the PS) through ps2ps (or pdf2pdf, etc.)? I haven't used that for this particular purpose, but I have found that certain versions of Adobe Illustrator will read a "post-ps2ps" file better than a "pre-ps

Re: barline problem

2006-06-14 Thread Walter Hofmeister
On 6/14/06 10:22 AM, "Dewdman42" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You are of course welcome to your opinion, but you have not changed my mind. > I need better PDF output. printed sheet music is not the only reason for > needing to produce music notation. Lilypond will not work for me in that > re

Re: barline problem

2006-06-14 Thread Dewdman42
That would be good to figure out. I'll try to see if I can follow up here and get that to work here. I also tryied using --png option to create a png file and the output in png is much nicer on screen then the PDF... So perhaps I can get around this issue by always producing both png and pdf ou

Re: barline problem

2006-06-14 Thread Walter Hofmeister
On 6/14/06 10:25 AM, "Dewdman42" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Walter Hofmeister wrote: >> >> I would say that in older versions of Lilypond where it relied on LaTex, >> the >> PDFs were much better looking on the screen. >> >> Walter Hofmeister >> >> > > Yea interesting. So I take it t

Re: barline problem

2006-06-14 Thread Stephen
- Original Message - From: "Dewdman42" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: Re: barline problem that's an interesting point and perhaps in the future that will become more standard, but I would reckon not until the displays are higher resolutio

Re: barline problem

2006-06-14 Thread Stephen
- Original Message - From: "Walter Hofmeister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:56 AM Subject: Re: barline problem On 6/14/06 9:42 AM, "Erik Sandberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wednesday 14 June 2006 17:25, Stephen wrote: - Original Message -

Re: barline problem

2006-06-14 Thread Dewdman42
that's an interesting point and perhaps in the future that will become more standard, but I would reckon not until the displays are higher resolution, to match that of paper. In any case, that's not the only use for producing music notation.for putting on a music stand to play. Simply produc

Re: barline problem

2006-06-14 Thread Dewdman42
Walter Hofmeister wrote: > > I would say that in older versions of Lilypond where it relied on LaTex, > the > PDFs were much better looking on the screen. > > Walter Hofmeister > > Yea interesting. So I take it there is no way to make the new lilypond use the old mode or something? -- Vie

Re: barline problem

2006-06-14 Thread Dewdman42
Yes Walter, you are correct, Postscript is not based on a particular resolution. Must print beautifully on that printer of yours. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/barline-problem-t1778120.html#a4868246 Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User forum at Nabble.com. __

Re: barline problem

2006-06-14 Thread Dewdman42
You are of course welcome to your opinion, but you have not changed my mind. I need better PDF output. printed sheet music is not the only reason for needing to produce music notation. Lilypond will not work for me in that regard. I may or may not still use it for printing if it will not invol

Re: barline problem

2006-06-14 Thread Walter Hofmeister
On 6/14/06 9:42 AM, "Erik Sandberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 14 June 2006 17:25, Stephen wrote: >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dewdman42" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 4:55 PM >> Subject: Re: barline problem >> >>> Which gets us to the cru

Re: barline problem

2006-06-14 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 17:25, Stephen wrote: > Your right, Lilypond does not produce PDF files, ghostscript does. So the > only thing Lilypond could do is add additional hinting in the PostScript > file as Hans has already suggested. And as you've already pointed out, what > matters is how the m

Re: barline problem

2006-06-14 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 17:25, Stephen wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Dewdman42" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 4:55 PM > Subject: Re: barline problem > > > Which gets us to the crux of the problem. Finale and lilypond use all of > > the > > nuances of

Re: barline problem

2006-06-14 Thread Stephen
- Original Message - From: "Dewdman42" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 4:55 PM Subject: Re: barline problem Which gets us to the crux of the problem. Finale and lilypond use all of the nuances of postscript that they possibly can..perhaps even using parts of