Re: GDP: keep separate pdf files?

2007-11-15 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 15.11.2007 (07:34), Mats Bengtsson wrote: Graham Percival wrote: Since the GDP docs are spread over the LM, NR, AU, and snippets -- not to mention MG and IR -- what about making a tarball / zip which contained all these manuals, and removing the download links for individual PDFs?

Re: GDP: keep separate pdf files?

2007-11-15 Thread Francisco Vila
2007/11/15, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Graham Percival wrote: Since the GDP docs are spread over the LM, NR, AU, and snippets -- not to mention MG and IR -- what about making a tarball / zip which contained all these manuals, and removing the download links for individual PDFs?

Re: GDP: chattiness in @seealso

2007-11-15 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/11/15, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have a slight preference against #2 (sentences everywhere), since IMO in most cases it's obvious why somebody might want to look at other section. I don't! I like full sentences :) Option #3 is preferring no explanation at all, but allowing

Re: LSR - lilypond docs

2007-11-15 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/11/15, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As I have said earlier, I think it would be a big loss if the web site could not provide the full documentation for multiple old version, including a complete set of example files with the correct syntax for the corresponding version. This is one

Re: GDP: church rests

2007-11-15 Thread Hans Aberg
On 15 Nov 2007, at 00:57, Graham Percival wrote: GDP: http://web.uvic.ca/~gperciva/ Take a look at NR 1.2.2 Writing rests: Multi measure rests is church rests a real musical term? There's some question over whether we should use church rests or Kirchenpausen. Mensural notation preceded

Re: GDP: preferred terms

2007-11-15 Thread Hans Aberg
On 15 Nov 2007, at 00:57, Graham Percival wrote: I've started a list of preferred terms in policy.txt. These are words where people have asked me which spelling/term we prefer, and I don't want to give different answers to different people. I think this is a bit late; I'm certain that I've

Re: GDP: church rests

2007-11-15 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Hans Aberg wrote: Hindemith suggests using |---| with a number over for rests of nine measures or longer. 9 |---| The default rule in LilyPond is to do this for 11 measures or longer, see section Multi measure rests in the manual for information on how to change this value. /Mats

Re: GDP: preferred terms

2007-11-15 Thread Palmer, Ralph
Greetings - *** Graham wrote: - bar vs. measure. Whenever possible, we use the same term as the internal lilypond syntax uses... but I've seen both bars and measures in those docs. Should we just leave this up to individual doc writers, or pick one word? - barline vs. bar

Re: GDP: church rests

2007-11-15 Thread Hans Aberg
On 15 Nov 2007, at 14:24, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Hindemith suggests using |---| with a number over for rests of nine measures or longer. 9 |---| The default rule in LilyPond is to do this for 11 measures or longer, see section Multi measure rests in the manual for information on how

Re: GDP: church rests

2007-11-15 Thread Francisco Vila
2007/11/15, Hans Aberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 15 Nov 2007, at 14:24, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Hindemith suggests using |---| with a number over for rests of nine measures or longer. 9 |---| The default rule in LilyPond is to do this for 11 measures or longer, see section Multi

Re: posting snippets

2007-11-15 Thread Valentin Villenave
OK, the page has been updated: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/html/contributing.html Thank you very much Seba! Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: GDP: church rests

2007-11-15 Thread Hans Aberg
On 15 Nov 2007, at 17:19, Francisco Vila wrote: Hindemith suggests using |---| with a number over for rests of nine measures or longer. 9 |---| The default rule in LilyPond is to do this for 11 measures or longer, see section Multi measure rests in the manual for information on how

Re: GDP: church rests

2007-11-15 Thread Francisco Vila
2007/11/15, Hans Aberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 15 Nov 2007, at 17:19, Francisco Vila wrote: For the term church rests, Finale for example simply says use symbols for multimeasure rests up to nine measures Hindemith's book has the diagram above, so it is clear that he would use it for rests

Re: LSR - lilypond docs

2007-11-15 Thread Graham Percival
Valentin Villenave wrote: 2007/11/15, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As I have said earlier, I think it would be a big loss if the web site could not provide the full documentation for multiple old version, including a complete set of example files with the correct syntax for the

Re: LSR - lilypond docs

2007-11-15 Thread Graham Percival
Mats Bengtsson wrote: As I have said earlier, I think it would be a big loss if the web site could not provide the full documentation for multiple old version, including a complete set of example files with the correct syntax for the corresponding version. It does! input/lsr/*/ is the

Re: GDP: church rests

2007-11-15 Thread Hans Aberg
On 15 Nov 2007, at 18:34, Francisco Vila wrote: For the term church rests, Finale for example simply says use symbols for multimeasure rests up to nine measures Hindemith's book has the diagram above, so it is clear that he would use it for rests of length 9 measures. Here I do not

Lilypond in MikTeX

2007-11-15 Thread Helge Kruse
Hello, I tried the LaTeX example from the Lilypond manual and ran it with MikTeX on Windows XP. Unfortunately LaTeX doesn't know lilypond at all. ! LaTeX Error: Environment lilypond undefined. See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H return for immediate

Re: Lilypond in MikTeX

2007-11-15 Thread Graham Percival
Helge Kruse wrote: I tried the LaTeX example from the Lilypond manual and ran it with MikTeX on Windows XP. Try reading the manual as well. It discusses the lilypond-book script, which you must run. I have no idea if this is compatible with MikTeX. - Graham

Re: Lilypond in MikTeX

2007-11-15 Thread Dominic Neumann
You cannot run the TeX files containing the lilypond environment directly with latex oder pdflatex. You have to use the script lilypond-book which is part of the lilypond package. That script runs lilypond to make pdf files (or other image files) out of the lilypond code. Then it writes a new TeX

Re: GDP: chattiness in @seealso

2007-11-15 Thread David Fedoruk
Good questions! (another overdue discussion question, sorry) IMHO this isn't a problem. The crucial thing to remember is that program documentation isn't for programmers (they have comments in the working code), its for us non-programmers who struggle with programs like lilypond because it

lp with korean/utf8 lambda dvipdfmx

2007-11-15 Thread Minsu Kim
Hi forum! I'm a German latex-user and new to lilypond. My intention is to place a few lines of melody and lyrics of a wellknown Korean folksong (Arirang) in a certain korean font into a latex-document, probably within a minipage (or a table). All should end up in a PDF. I entered

Re: GDP: chattiness in @seealso

2007-11-15 Thread Graham Percival
Eyolf Østrem wrote: On 14.11.2007 (16:18), Graham Percival wrote: I have a slight preference against #2 (sentences everywhere), since IMO I know you have, and you know this is the one I prefer. Giving a hint at WHY one should seealso ain't fluff. This isn't dungeons and dragons (you are in a

Re: GDP: chattiness in @seealso

2007-11-15 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 14.11.2007 (16:18), Graham Percival wrote: I think we should have a consistent format for the NR; which one do people prefer? I have a slight preference against #2 (sentences everywhere), since IMO I know you have, and you know this is the one I prefer. Giving a hint at WHY one should

Re: GDP: chattiness in @seealso

2007-11-15 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 15.11.2007 (16:19), Graham Percival wrote: At the very least, I want it clear which sentence refer to the Notation Reference, and which sentences refer to the other parts of the docs. Agreed. ... I _really_ think this is completely unnecessary, though. And if you want to add full

Re: GDP: chattiness in @seealso

2007-11-15 Thread Graham Percival
Eyolf Østrem wrote: On 15.11.2007 (16:19), Graham Percival wrote: ... I _really_ think this is completely unnecessary, though. And if you want to add full sentences to every single notation reference @ref{}, I assume you want to do the same for every @lsr{dir,snippet}, every

Re: lp with korean/utf8 lambda dvipdfmx

2007-11-15 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Unfortunately, this is impossible because lilypond-book invokes latex only but, I need it to run lambda, so the mess showed up with the no files output-error only! Indeed, the use of `latex' is hard-coded currently. While lambda is a rather dead end, users might become interested in using

Space on the left end of each line

2007-11-15 Thread Don Blaheta
This seems like the sort of thing there should be an easy tweak for, but I'm not finding the right properties to change, I guess. I'm setting a bunch of plainchant stuff in more or less modern notation, so it uses modern note heads and spacing rules and five lines, but still doesn't have a time

Re: Space on the left end of each line

2007-11-15 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Don, I'd like to allow a fixed-width space at the beginning of the line before the notes start rendering. Have you thought about adding this value to the 'X-extent of the first note? e.g., \once \override NoteColumn #'X-extent = #'(-20 . 1) It's not ideal (there'll be a lot of