Re: Trouble getting my page layout just right

2008-11-03 Thread Joe Neeman
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 21:53 +1100, Cameron Horsburgh wrote: > In short, I'm stumped! > > Any ideas? So I had a look at the file you sent off-list and it turns out that the unevenness is being caused by poor extent-estimates. A workaround is to set VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent to #'(-4 . 4

Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?

2008-11-03 Thread Laura Conrad
> "David" == David Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> How about: >> >> The bugs list is for experienced lilypond users to report >> malfunctions in the software. If you're having trouble learning >> to use the software, you can get help on the lilypond-user list. >>

Re: five sixteenth note

2008-11-03 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Mark, I use the "Wanderer"(I call this rhythm because it is the basic motive in the Wanderer-Fantasie by Schubert ) and "Sarabande" rhythms like this: \include "rhythmen.ly" \relative { \wanderer { c d e f e d } \time 3/4 \sarabande { e d c g' f e } } But, this is not my idea! You can fi

RE: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?

2008-11-03 Thread Ed Ardzinski
All good points, and I think a few hit on on the major themes. I personally like the Wiki idea to some extent - just a brief look at some of the links was instructional and made me think it's time to consider upgrading from 2.6.5! That's another topic! But actually, that is somewhat pertin

Re: five sixteenth note

2008-11-03 Thread Gilles THIBAULT
As has already been pointed out, you haven't included your file rhythm.ly I think this file is here : http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=390 Gilles ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypo

Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?

2008-11-03 Thread David Rogers
On 2008-11-03 at 11:25, Laura Conrad wrote: "David" == David Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: David> Perhaps every time the bugs list is mentioned anywhere, it should come David> with a notice "The bugs list is for the Lilypond programmers only. For David> any kind of help with the software,

RE: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?

2008-11-03 Thread Nick Payne
> -Original Message- y newcomers post to bug-lilypond? > > What's the real solution to this? > - when lilypond is run for the first time on windows or OSX, it > pops up a box that says something like "You must read the docs". > Or maybe slightly longer, like "To use LilyPond, you must

Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?

2008-11-03 Thread Laura Conrad
> "David" == David Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: David> Perhaps every time the bugs list is mentioned anywhere, it should come David> with a notice "The bugs list is for the Lilypond programmers only. For David> any kind of help with the software, please write to [link to us

Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?

2008-11-03 Thread David Rogers
On 2008-11-02 at 11:37, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Can anybody explain why 90% of all the newcomers who send a "how do I run the program" or "how do I install the program" or similar, send it to bug-lilypond instead of lilypond-user? Where on the web is the bug mailing list so much more visible th

Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?

2008-11-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 03:27:28PM +0100, Bailey James E. wrote: > > what is clearly understandable on a first read by you, is > not clearly understandable on a first read by everyone. I think that > having documentation that explains everything is very good. Examples, please. If anything is u

Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?

2008-11-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 04:49:53PM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: > 2008/11/3 Toine Schreurs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Redundancy is not the solution. Yes, in general, repetition is a good > > technique to become familiar with something unknown. The first read gives > > questionmarks, the second one g

Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?

2008-11-03 Thread Bailey James E.
Am 03.11.2008 um 16:35 schrieb Toine Schreurs: Redundancy is not the solution. To which problem? Yes, in general, repetition is a good technique to become familiar with something unknown. The first read gives questionmarks, the second one gives the Aha's. But it is almost impossible to m

Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?

2008-11-03 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/11/3 Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > - The problem is not explaining how to use lilypond. We have the > tutorial for that. If the tutorial isn't clear, improve the > tutorial. I still advocate for a not-so-serious resource from users to users. > - 95% of the people who post "where

Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?

2008-11-03 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/11/3 Toine Schreurs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Redundancy is not the solution. Yes, in general, repetition is a good > technique to become familiar with something unknown. The first read gives > questionmarks, the second one gives the Aha's. > > But it is almost impossible to maintain documentatio

Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?

2008-11-03 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/11/3 Bailey James E. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Except the problem wasn't "people aren't reading the documentation", the > problem is "new users post to the wrong list". Which is encouraged from our webpage, as Valentin discovered. > I think that having > documentation that explains everything i

Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?

2008-11-03 Thread Toine Schreurs
Redundancy is not the solution. Yes, in general, repetition is a good technique to become familiar with something unknown. The first read gives questionmarks, the second one gives the Aha's. But it is almost impossible to maintain documentation if the information is somehow duplicated over differe

Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?

2008-11-03 Thread Bailey James E.
Am 03.11.2008 um 15:12 schrieb Graham Percival: On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 12:52:25AM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: http://lilypondwiki.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=Where_is_the_app%3F Which sometimes makes me think that the page is sooo bad that no one dares to comment it. Does anyone think it

Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?

2008-11-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 12:52:25AM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: > http://lilypondwiki.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=Where_is_the_app%3F > > Which sometimes makes me think that the page is sooo bad that no one > dares to comment it. Does anyone think it could be remotely useful? Mao. Why am I alw

Re: colliding rests puzzle

2008-11-03 Thread Bailey James E.
Your rests collide because they aren't where lilypond wants them. If you let lilypond place the rest, instead of specifically placing them (e2.\rest) then you'll see where lilypond wants them, you'll also shouldn't get that error. Am 03.11.2008 um 14:33 schrieb Tom Cloyd: If someone has a m

Re: colliding rests puzzle

2008-11-03 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Hi Tom, Are the console warnings what concern you, or is it the output you're getting? Certain scores of mine get error warnings like this but as long as it compiles and the output looks like I want, I ignore the warnings. The output of your code looks pretty good to me. :) Jon Tom Cloyd w

colliding rests puzzle

2008-11-03 Thread Tom Cloyd
If someone has a moment to look at this and give me some idea what the problem might be, I'd appreciate it. I've always been able to figure this out, before, but not now. This is only 3 bars of the score, but the problem is cropping up like dandelions! Here's the console output I'm getting, fo

Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?

2008-11-03 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/11/3 Ralph Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Francisco - > > Nice work. I don't see any problem with your English. I am neither a > developer or a new user, but I do think I might be intimidated by the page > if I were a new user accustomed to working only from a GUI. I also think > that I would b

share note stem between voice

2008-11-03 Thread Daniel Cheng
Hi list, I want to digitalize a music sheet I have here. It have some special feature, and I want to replicate it. See http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stemnr2.png Red note-heads are voice 1, Blue note-head are voice 2. As you can see: - both voice share the same stem - the stem d

Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?

2008-11-03 Thread Ralph Palmer
Francisco - Nice work. I don't see any problem with your English. I am neither a developer or a new user, but I do think I might be intimidated by the page if I were a new user accustomed to working only from a GUI. I also think that I would be more intrigued than intimidated if one of the first t

german chords

2008-11-03 Thread Bailey James E .
I think I've figured it out. If someone could just confirm for me (it seems to work okay) that this won't break anything fundamental, I'll add it to my \include file. partialGermanChords = { \set chordRootNamer = #(chord-name->german-markup #t) % \set chordNoteNamer = #note-name->german-m