website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Patrick Schmidt
Hi all, I proudly present draft 9 of the new website. http://lilypond.org/~graham/out/ Please comment. BTW: Has anybody out there a clue why the lily-home-png (the tab with the lily on the left) appears to be a wee bit smaller than the rest of the main menu bar even though all pngs have the s

Re: [m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl: translation error]

2009-09-07 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op zondag 23-08-2009 om 19:01 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Martin Tarenskeen: > I bumped into a really ugly dutch translation error message: What is it that you find so especially ugly about this? ;-) > "geforceerde breuk werd opgeheft door andere gebeurtenis, zou je > maatcontrole moeten gebr

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Jethro Van Thuyne
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:01:56 +0200, Patrick Schmidt wrote: > BTW: Has anybody out there a clue why the lily-home-png (the tab with > the lily on the left) appears to be a wee bit smaller than the rest of > the main menu bar even though all pngs have the same size? Patrick, Is it possible it just

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Montag, 7. September 2009 11:01:56 schrieb Patrick Schmidt: > Hi all, > > I proudly present draft 9 of the new website. > > http://lilypond.org/~graham/out/ > > Please comment. > > BTW: Has anybody out there a clue why the lily-home-png (the tab with the > lily on the left) appears to be a wee b

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Patrick Schmidt wrote: > http://lilypond.org/~graham/out/ > > Please comment. I like it very much. Two minor comments: - On the homepage, it would be nice if the two subsubheadings for "Stable" and "Unstable" didn't have the same bg-color (a little brownish for t

mugshots for web page? [WAS: The LilyPond Report, again!]

2009-09-07 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op zondag 06-09-2009 om 21:01 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Valentin Villenave: Hi Valentin! > You'll find the answers by reading the full issue on > http://news.lilynet.net/The-LilyPond-Report-16 Yay, a new report. Thanks! Combining these 3-4 things from the report 1a --> nice photo of John

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread -Eluze
Patrick Schmidt-5 wrote: > > http://lilypond.org/~graham/out/ > > Please comment. > > unless it is my browser settings it looks a bit greyish or dusty … - wouldn't clear, pure colors present Lilypond in a brighter fashion?! the layout is very pleasant, indeed! -- View this message in contex

quadratic noteheads

2009-09-07 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear community, is it possible to get quadratic noteheads? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Montag, 7. September 2009 schrieb Patrick Schmidt: > Hi all, > > I proudly present draft 9 of the new website. > > http://lilypond.org/~graham/out/ > > Please comment. I'm sorry to report that you overdid the javascripting. Opening an image in Konqueror from its thumbnail doesn't work - the fr

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > I'm sorry to report that you overdid the javascripting. Opening an image in > Konqueror from its thumbnail doesn't work - the frame pops up and closes > again immediately. > For example the postcard near the bottom of > http://news.lilyne

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Patrick Schmidt
Hi Frank, I think your comment refers to the LilyPond Report (Valentin Villenave). We didn't use neither JavaScript nor postcards. Cheers, patrick Original-Nachricht > Datum: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:16:29 +0200 > Von: Frank Steinmetzger > An: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Betreff: Re: we

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op maandag 07-09-2009 om 12:16 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Frank Steinmetzger: > > I proudly present draft 9 of the new website. > > > > http://lilypond.org/~graham/out/ > > > > Please comment. What especially do you want comments on? Most images are broken. Could it be that you did not run

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op maandag 07 september 2009, schreef Patrick Schmidt: > http://lilypond.org/~graham/out/ > > Please comment. I very much like the new layout. A little nitpick: on hovering the menu bars, some gradients just become lighter, others look like mirrored upside down (or pressed down). For example, g

Re: mugshots for web page? [WAS: The LilyPond Report, again!]

2009-09-07 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Yay, a new report.  Thanks! You're welcome -- I hope I didn't betray your thoughts :-) > Combining these 3-4 things from the report > > 1a --> nice photo of John and Valentin _NICE_, really? Duh. > 1b --> missing photo of Francisco FW

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Wilbert Berendsen wrote: > I very much like the new layout. A little nitpick: on hovering the menu bars, BTW: am I the only one feeling a bit troubled when looking at the attached picture? (go to their website to see the hovering and on-click effects, that should

Re: mugshots for web page? [WAS: The LilyPond Report, again!]

2009-09-07 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op maandag 07-09-2009 om 13:14 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Valentin Villenave: > > made me think: wouldn't it be nice to have photos of all developers/ > > translators on the new authors page? > > I don't know. On one hand I like the idea, on the other hand isn't > there a risk to turn into a r

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op maandag 07 september 2009, schreef Valentin Villenave: > BTW: am I the only one feeling a bit troubled when looking at the > attached picture? There are similarities, but then it's quite logical to have a "home" button in the top left corner, (and also to have a "home" button that is a logo) ,

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Patrick Schmidt
> BTW: am I the only one feeling a bit troubled when looking at the > attached picture? > > (go to their website to see the hovering and on-click effects, that > should look familiar too) So what's the trouble? This is what you call "inspiration"! ;-) You could also have a look at http://www.n

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Patrick Schmidt
> I very much like the new layout. A little nitpick: on hovering the menu > bars, > some gradients just become lighter, others look like mirrored upside down > (or > pressed down). For example, go to > http://lilypond.org/~graham/out/Introduction.html: the headings Featutes, > Examples, Freedo

Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

2009-09-07 Thread Torsten Anders
Dear Lilyponders, Finally, I got some microtonal notation working in Lilypond that uses a special font for the accidentals (i.e. not the usual Feta font), please see the attached example PDF file. The full Lilypond code is included at the end of this mail. This example shows a harmonic seventh ch

Re: quadratic noteheads

2009-09-07 Thread Mats Bengtsson
The builtin support for different noteheads is shown at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Note-head-styles#Note-head-styles but a skilled Scheme hacker should be able to produce other shapes as well, if needed. /Mats Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear community, is it possib

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Patrick Schmidt
> > > http://lilypond.org/~graham/out/ > > > > > > Please comment. > > What especially do you want comments on? > > Most images are broken. Could it be that you did not run post-www.py? > > How about having a priority list of things that need to be fixed, e > > -> /Introduction/Features s

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 12:50:50PM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Most images are broken. Could it be that you did not run post-www.py? Images are fine on master. For various reasons, he's working on web-gop, and for various reasons, images don't work on web-gop. And no, it's not worth fixing

Re: mugshots for web page? [WAS: The LilyPond Report, again!]

2009-09-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 11:50:44AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > made me think: wouldn't it be nice to have photos of all developers/ > translators on the new authors page? I have mixed feelings about this. I must admit that I was surprised at how much the photos add to the Testimonials page

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 11:41:15AM +0200, Valentin Villenave wrote: > Two minor comments: > - On the homepage, it would be nice if the two subsubheadings for > "Stable" and "Unstable" didn't have the same bg-color (a little > brownish for the unstable release, accordingly to our color-code). > IIR

Re: quadratic noteheads

2009-09-07 Thread Karl Hammar
> The builtin support for different noteheads is shown at > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Note-head-styles#Note-head-styles > but a skilled Scheme hacker should be able to produce other shapes as > well, if needed. > > /Mats > > Stefan Thomas wrote: > > Dear commu

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Patrick Schmidt wrote: > Hi all, > > I proudly present draft 9 of the new website. > > http://lilypond.org/~graham/out/ > > Please comment. Big improvements in look and in readability/usability of the menu bars (especially the second-level; it's now really easy to see which item is currently se

Re: quadratic noteheads

2009-09-07 Thread Karl Hammar
> > The builtin support for different noteheads is shown at > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Note-head-styles#Note-head-styles ... > > Stefan Thomas wrote: > > > Dear community, > > > is it possible to get quadratic noteheads? > > Not fully quadratic, but theese might

Re: quadratic noteheads

2009-09-07 Thread Robin Bannister
Have a look at filled: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-10/msg00516.html hollow: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-05/msg00593.html Cheers, Robin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://l

Re: mugshots for web page? [WAS: The LilyPond Report, again!]

2009-09-07 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/9/7 Graham Percival : > However, I don't particularly want my photo on the lilypond > website.  This opens the possibility of having photos of some > developers but not others, which might seem a big ragged or > unbalanced. A possibility would be Developer One Developer Two Developer Three [

Re: mugshots for web page? [WAS: The LilyPond Report, again!]

2009-09-07 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op maandag 07-09-2009 om 14:43 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Graham Percival: > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 11:50:44AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > I have mixed feelings about this. I must admit that I was > surprised at how much the photos add to the Testimonials page -- > the first version I m

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

2009-09-07 Thread Robin Bannister
Torsten Anders wrote: However, I failed to do the same for chord tones. Something like this? %% tweakAccidental = #(define-music-function (parser location mkup mus) (markup? ly:music?) (set! (ly:music-property mus 'tweaks) (acons 'before-line-breaking (accidenta

Re: quadratic noteheads

2009-09-07 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Robin, Dear Mats, thanks for Your help. I guess I know now how to do it! 2009/9/7 Robin Bannister > Have a look at filled: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-10/msg00516.html > hollow: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-05/msg00593.html > > > Cheers,

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Patrick McCarty
On 2009-09-07, Patrick Schmidt wrote: > Hi all, > > I proudly present draft 9 of the new website. > > http://lilypond.org/~graham/out/ > > Please comment. Very cool. I like it. One comment about the lily-home-png: I don't really like the gray top/bottom border you are using, since the other

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

2009-09-07 Thread Kees van den Doel
Not sure if it will help you, but you can look at my solution for microtonal notation in this package: http://people.cs.ubc.ca/~kvdoel/tmp/persian.zip Cheers, Kees - Original Message - From: Torsten Anders Date: Monday, September 7, 2009 5:21 am Subject: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis not

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 12:54:13PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: > The tiny "border" that appears underneath the top navigation bar is > the result of background colors showing through, since the > line-height/padding of the text is slightly larger than the gradient > images. What happens if we si

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Patrick McCarty
On 2009-09-07, Graham Percival wrote: > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 12:54:13PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: > > The tiny "border" that appears underneath the top navigation bar is > > the result of background colors showing through, since the > > line-height/padding of the text is slightly larger than

NR typo: Minor-major seventh chord

2009-09-07 Thread Andrew Tucker
In NR B.2 Common chord modifiers, I think the line with: Minor-major seventh Minor triad, major seventh maj7.5- <> -> should change to: maj7.3- (both text and chord) -Andrew Tucker http://tuckerandrew.net___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 04:25:28PM +0200, Joseph Wakeling wrote: > GPL page: should the page mention that Lilypond is released under GPLv2 > or later? It's not; lilypond is currently GPLv2. > Testimonials page: note that the convention for English with multiple > paragraphs being quoted is to _be

Re: mugshots for web page? [WAS: The LilyPond Report, again!]

2009-09-07 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <1252345554.16636.3.ca...@heerbeest>, Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes Or what about stealing a creative idea from http://www.fotosearch.com/photos-images/anonymous.html such as the profile. Greetings, Jan. I'd just use the picture of me by E. H. Shepard, except I haven't done anythin

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Patrick Schmidt
> On 2009-09-07, Graham Percival wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 12:54:13PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: > > > The tiny "border" that appears underneath the top navigation bar is > > > the result of background colors showing through, since the > > > line-height/padding of the text is slightl

Left Bar; Repeated Clefs

2009-09-07 Thread Gus
Hi, I'm trying to create an exercise sheet but I'm stuck. I need to create left barlines and repeated clefs. This is what I have so far: \version "2.12.2" \paper { #(set-paper-size "a4") } \header { title = "Exercise 1" } #(set-global-staff-size 30) \markup { \wordwrap { Write a no

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 11:02:29PM +0200, Patrick Schmidt wrote: > > > > What happens if we simply remove that background color? I mean, > > > if we're displaying a png, we don't *want* any background color in > > > there anyway. > Why don't we want any background colors? Don't they ensure that >

Re: [m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl: translation error]

2009-09-07 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 11:27:25AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Op zondag 23-08-2009 om 19:01 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Martin > > "geforceerde breuk werd opgeheft door andere gebeurtenis, zou je > > maatcontrole moeten gebruiken?" > Fixed in GIT, thanks for the report! Here's another

Re: Left Bar; Repeated Clefs

2009-09-07 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/9/7 Gus : > \score { >  { >  \override Score.BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders = #'#((instrument-name > left-edge ambitus breathing-sign clef staff-bar key-cancellation key-signature > time-signature custos) (instrument-name left-edge ambitus breathing-sign > staff-bar clef key-cancellation

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Graham Percival wrote: > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 04:25:28PM +0200, Joseph Wakeling wrote: >> GPL page: should the page mention that Lilypond is released under GPLv2 >> or later? > > It's not; lilypond is currently GPLv2. The copyright notice in my installed version of Lilypond (2.12 from the pack

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Patrick Schmidt
> Very cool. I like it. > > One comment about the lily-home-png: I don't really like the gray > top/bottom border you are using, since the other gradient images don't > have this border. Thanks for the hint. How did you spot the gray top/bottom border?With GIMP? I can't really see any borders

New user question - relative bowing and fingering marks

2009-09-07 Thread John Ervin
Hello, When writing bowing marks on notes that have fingering with Lilypond, I'm always getting the bowing mark close to the note and the fingering above that bow mark. Using: d''4-2\upbow or say d''4^\markup { \finger 2}\upbow This is rather atypical in my experience. Is there a way to have t

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 11:30:14PM +0200, Joseph Wakeling wrote: > Graham Percival wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 04:25:28PM +0200, Joseph Wakeling wrote: > >> GPL page: should the page mention that Lilypond is released under GPLv2 > >> or later? > > > > It's not; lilypond is currently GPLv2.

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/9/7 Graham Percival : > I don't see anything wrong with double-quotes inside > double-quotes... are you proposing that they should be replaced > with single-quotes?  (that said, they should use @qq instead of an > acutal "") Nesting @qq seems to break compilation: /home/neil/lilypond/Docume

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 11:28:24PM +0100, Neil Puttock wrote: > 2009/9/7 Graham Percival : > > > I don't see anything wrong with double-quotes inside > > double-quotes... are you proposing that they should be replaced > > with single-quotes?  (that said, they should use @qq instead of an > > acuta

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Patrick Schmidt
Hi Valentin, thanks for your comments! > Two minor comments: > - On the homepage, it would be nice if the two subsubheadings for > "Stable" and "Unstable" didn't have the same bg-color (a little > brownish for the unstable release, accordingly to our color-code). > IIRC that had already been cons

Re: New user question - relative bowing and fingering marks

2009-09-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
John Ervin wrote Monday, September 07, 2009 10:32 PM When writing bowing marks on notes that have fingering with Lilypond, I'm always getting the bowing mark close to the note and the fingering above that bow mark. Using: d''4-2\upbow or say d''4^\markup { \finger 2}\upbow This is rather

Re: New user question - relative bowing and fingering marks

2009-09-07 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/9/7 Trevor Daniels : > The relative positioning of script objects > is controlled by the 'script-priority property. > By default this left unspecified for most > articulations (including bowing commands) and set > to 100 for Fingering.  So we need to set it to > something greater than 100 for

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Patrick McCarty
On 2009-09-07, Patrick Schmidt wrote: > > > Very cool. I like it. > > > > One comment about the lily-home-png: I don't really like the gray > > top/bottom border you are using, since the other gradient images don't > > have this border. > Thanks for the hint. How did you spot the gray top/botto

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 05:11:10PM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > On 9/7/09 3:37 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > > > Sounds like a mistake in the packaging. COPYING in the source > > tree says GPLv2. > > But GPL v2 has as part of its text "or (at your option) any later version'." > > see

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

2009-09-07 Thread Torsten Anders
Dear Kees, On 07.09.2009, at 21:10, Kees van den Doel wrote: Not sure if it will help you, but you can look at my solution for microtonal notation in this package: http://people.cs.ubc.ca/~kvdoel/tmp/persian.zip Thank you for sharing this example. If I am not mistaken, you used the maqam ex

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

2009-09-07 Thread Torsten Anders
On 07.09.2009, at 19:57, Robin Bannister wrote: Torsten Anders wrote: However, I failed to do the same for chord tones. Something like this? Great, thank you very much!! Now my remaining problem is the spacing. For example, can anyone explain to me how to use the following snippet from the

Re: The LilyPond Report, again!

2009-09-07 Thread Valentin Villenave
Hi everybody, That's not interesting enough to start a new thread, but I thought I'd let you know... I have recently been offered to write an article about GNU LilyPond in the yearly magazine that is issued by the French Conservatories Parents Association. This magazine is quite widely distribute

Re: NR typo: Minor-major seventh chord

2009-09-07 Thread Tim McNamara
Andrew Tucker wrote: In NR B.2 Common chord modifiers, I think the line with: Minor-major seventh Minor triad, major seventh maj7.5- -> should change to: maj7.3- (both text and chord) Clearly maj7.5- is *not* a minor-major seventh chord so that's a good catch. The syntax that seems most l

Re: website draft 9

2009-09-07 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/7/09 3:37 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 11:30:14PM +0200, Joseph Wakeling wrote: >> Graham Percival wrote: >>> On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 04:25:28PM +0200, Joseph Wakeling wrote: GPL page: should the page mention that Lilypond is released under GPLv2 or lat

Re: mugshots for web page? [WAS: The LilyPond Report, again!]

2009-09-07 Thread Peter Chubb
> "Anthony" == Anthony W Youngman writes: Anthony> In message <1252345554.16636.3.ca...@heerbeest>, Jan Anthony> Nieuwenhuizen writes >> Or what about stealing a creative idea from >> >> http://www.fotosearch.com/photos-images/anonymous.html >> >> such as the profile. >> >> Greetings, Jan

Re: tieWaitForNote across staves

2009-09-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 9/7/09, Robin Bannister wrote: > From: Robin Bannister > Subject: Re: tieWaitForNote across staves > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" , "lilypond-user" > > Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 1:02 AM > Jonathan Wilkes > wrote:    > > I see a "cross-staff" property for grobs > > But this doesn

Re: New user question - relative bowing and fingering marks

2009-09-07 Thread John Ervin
Trevor, Thanks that solved it. I just added (script-priority . 2000) to upbow and downbow in script.scm (which is in \usr\share\lilypond\current\scm in my Windows installation). This now gives the typical behavior, but my .ly files won't be as portable as they could be. Now if someone just knew

Re: NR typo: Minor-major seventh chord

2009-09-07 Thread Andrew Tucker
On Sep 7, 2009, at 7:09 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: Andrew Tucker wrote: In NR B.2 Common chord modifiers, I think the line with: Minor-major seventh Minor triad, major seventh maj7.5- -> should change to: maj7.3- (both text and chord) Clearly maj7.5- is *not* a minor-major seventh chord so th

Feature Request: ^\times and _\times

2009-09-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I didn't see a place for feature requests on the documentation page, so I thought I'd post it here. Also ^[ and _[ which I think I mentioned in another email. -Jonathan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.or

Re: NR typo: Minor-major seventh chord

2009-09-07 Thread Brett Duncan
Andrew Tucker wrote: m7.7+ does provide the desired results, though I believe it's because lilypond uses only the last alteration of a particular note (ie. 7.9+.9- will end up 7/b9 and lose the sharp nine). This behavior might change (?), if I remember the tenor of that discussion, so we probab

Using Lilypond to produce publication-ready music

2009-09-07 Thread Mark Engelberg
For my first outing with Lilypond, I wanted to see whether I could produce sheet music that fits this publication specification: http://tinyurl.com/barbershop-notation-manual Note that this document spells out exactly what is expected for this style of music, and a full example is given at the end