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2010-02-01 Thread Hugh Myers
Given the distance in the index between page and print-first-page-number I'd like to suggest changing the text in notation\spacing.itely starting at line 645 from: @item print-first-page-number @funindex print-first-page-number If set to true, a page number is printed on the first page. Default:

Re: bug team

2010-02-01 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
У пн, 2010-02-01 у 04:45 +, Graham Percival пише: > At the moment, the best I can come up with is the generic "Bug > Team". Suggestions appreciated. My english is pretty poor... and "i can easily miss and/or mess anything" (c), but... =:O) How about "insectors"? Like misspelled "inspectors" b

Re: Speed tips, again, for extremely large scores?

2010-02-01 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Mon, 1 Feb 2010, Michael Kappler wrote: I'm also still very interested if there are possibilities to increase LilyPond performance further. My machine is very slow, though and I cannot speak for many people when raising performance issues. Would it be an idea to create a "Lilypond Benchma

Re: Speed tips, again, for extremely large scores?

2010-02-01 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Martin Tarenskeen wrote: On Mon, 1 Feb 2010, Michael Kappler wrote: I'm also still very interested if there are possibilities to increase LilyPond performance further. My machine is very slow, though and I cannot speak for many people when raising performance issues. Would it be an idea t

Re: Speed tips, again, for extremely large scores?

2010-02-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mats Bengtsson wrote Monday, February 01, 2010 11:52 AM Martin Tarenskeen wrote: On Mon, 1 Feb 2010, Michael Kappler wrote: I'm also still very interested if there are possibilities to increase LilyPond performance further. My machine is very slow, though and I cannot speak for many people

Re: Speed tips, again, for extremely large scores?

2010-02-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 12:37:42PM -, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > Mats Bengtsson wrote Monday, February 01, 2010 11:52 AM >> >> Martin Tarenskeen wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 1 Feb 2010, Michael Kappler wrote: >>> I'm also still very interested if there are possibilities to increase LilyPon

Re: Sibelius conversion - sib2ly

2010-02-01 Thread Kirill Sidorov
This concoction of mine might be of interest to some: http://www.sidorefa.com/sib2ly/ To my best knowledge, this tool is substantially more powerful than other existing Sib->Ly converters. You are welcome to try it out. The whole thing is absolutely free and open source, naturally. Written as a

Re: Sibelius conversion - sib2ly

2010-02-01 Thread Kirill Sidorov
This concoction of mine might be of interest to some: http://www.sidorefa.com/sib2ly/ To my best knowledge, this tool is substantially more powerful than other existing Sib->Ly converters. You are welcome to try it out. The whole thing is absolutely free and open source, naturally. Written

Re: New Sibelius to LilyPond conversion suite

2010-02-01 Thread Ewald Gutenkunst
Hi, Very interesting tool! is there any way to use it on Mac? The first step (the sib plugin) works already well. ~Ewald ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Sibelius conversion - sib2ly

2010-02-01 Thread Graham Percival
Please stop spamming. We saw your first email. - Graham On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:01:55PM -0800, Kirill Sidorov wrote: > > This concoction of mine might be of interest to some: > > http://www.sidorefa.com/sib2ly/ > > To my best knowledge, this tool is substantially more powerful > than ot

Re: Octavation

2010-02-01 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Why are you posting the same message so many times with different subject headings? I'm very pleased to hear about this tool, but this is very poor etiquette. Jon On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Kirill Sidorov wrote: > > There has been some progress, gentlemen. > > This concoction of mine migh

Re: New Sibelius to LilyPond conversion suite

2010-02-01 Thread Johan Vromans
Ewald Gutenkunst writes: > Very interesting tool! > is there any way to use it on Mac? > The first step (the sib plugin) works already well. It's written in ruby, so... -- Johan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.o

Re: New Sibelius to LilyPond conversion suite

2010-02-01 Thread Johan Vromans
Kirill writes: > This new tool I wrote might be of interest to some: > > http://www.sidorefa.com/sib2ly/ Must I conclude that this, too, requires Sibelius 6 or higher? -- Johan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.o

Re: New Sibelius to LilyPond conversion suite

2010-02-01 Thread Kirill
Hi all, I apologise for multiple posting this morning. I replied to earlier threads where Sib->Ly conversion was discussed, without realising it was going straight to the mailing-list to annoy everyone. Sorry!! Best, Kirill Sidorov ___ lilypond-u

Re: New Sibelius to LilyPond conversion suite

2010-02-01 Thread Kirill
Ewald Gutenkunst web.de> writes: > > Hi, > > Very interesting tool! > is there any way to use it on Mac? > The first step (the sib plugin) works already well. > > ~Ewald > Yes, it should work on all platforms provided you have a Ruby interpreter. I will update the instructions shortly. _

Re: New Sibelius to LilyPond conversion suite

2010-02-01 Thread Kirill
Johan Vromans squirrel.nl> writes: > > Kirill yandex.ru> writes: > > > This new tool I wrote might be of interest to some: > > > > http://www.sidorefa.com/sib2ly/ > > Must I conclude that this, too, requires Sibelius 6 or higher? > I have no way of testing if it works for Sibelius earlier

\partial Problem

2010-02-01 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Hello, today is not my day. Since several hours I try to solve a problem in a score, but I don't find my fault or the right syntax. I always get the warning: test3.ly:18:26: Warnung: Taktüberprüfung gescheitert bei: -1/16 s2 a4. s8 | % 1 The condensed sc

git, webgit

2010-02-01 Thread Patrick Karl
Thanks for the report. I've fixed this in git. Look at the docs in webgit first, and glance at the contributor's guide. What are git and webgit? Where should I have learned that? Thanks ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org htt

Re: \partial Problem

2010-02-01 Thread David Kastrup
Hajo Dezelski writes: > Hello, > > today is not my day. Since several hours I try to solve a problem in a > score, but I don't find my fault or the right syntax. I always get the > warning: > > test3.ly:18:26: Warnung: Taktüberprüfung gescheitert bei: -1/16 > s2 a4. s8 >

Re: New Sibelius to LilyPond conversion suite

2010-02-01 Thread Hans Aberg
On 1 Feb 2010, at 15:06, Johan Vromans wrote: Ewald Gutenkunst writes: Very interesting tool! is there any way to use it on Mac? The first step (the sib plugin) works already well. It's written in ruby, so... Ruby is a part of later Mac OS X; on 10.5.8: $ which ruby /usr/bin/ruby $

Re: git, webgit

2010-02-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Patrick Karl wrote: > > > Thanks for the report.  I've fixed this in git. >  Look at the docs in webgit first, and glance at the contributor's guide. > > What are git and webgit?  Where should I have learned that? http://lilypond.org/~graham/website/development.htm

Double treble and (alternative) percussion clefs

2010-02-01 Thread Caio Barros
Hi all, I don't know if this is a stupid request, but I did some research and as far as I know Lilypond don't have the Double Treble Clef neither the alternative percussion clef that both Finale and Sibelius have. If you guys don't know what I mean, they both can be seen here: Double Treble Clef:

Re: Double treble and (alternative) percussion clefs

2010-02-01 Thread James Bailey
On 01.02.2010, at 17:40, Caio Barros wrote: Hi all, I don't know if this is a stupid request, but I did some research and as far as I know Lilypond don't have the Double Treble Clef neither the alternative percussion clef that both Finale and Sibelius have. If you guys don't know what I

Re: Double treble and (alternative) percussion clefs

2010-02-01 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Caio, > as far as I know Lilypond don't have the Double Treble Clef You can always roll your own: \version "2.13.11" doubleClef = { \override Staff.Clef #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print \override Staff.Clef #'text = \markup \concat { \musicglyph #"clefs.G" \translate #'(-1 . 0) \mu

Re: \partial Problem

2010-02-01 Thread James Bailey
On 01.02.2010, at 16:06, Hajo Dezelski wrote: Hello, today is not my day. Since several hours I try to solve a problem in a score, but I don't find my fault or the right syntax. I always get the warning: test3.ly:18:26: Warnung: Taktüberprüfung gescheitert bei: -1/16 s2 a4. s8

Re: \partial Problem

2010-02-01 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Hello, thanks for your hint. Removing the bar helped "nothing", the warning still exists. "nothing"= Of course the score looks right, but when I publish score in Mutopia, I try to provide a Lilypond Sourcescore which compiles without warnings and errors. Otherwise people may think that ... @Davi

Re: \partial Problem

2010-02-01 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Hajo, This is why I always recommend that you *don't* put \partial and \repeat in every voice... Try the attached instead. Hope this helps! Kieren. \version "2.13.10" global = { \clef treble \key d \minor \time 4/4 \repeat "volta" 2 { \partial 16 s16 s2... } \repeat "vol

Re: New Sibelius to LilyPond conversion suite

2010-02-01 Thread Kirill
Ewald Gutenkunst web.de> writes: > > Hi, > > Very interesting tool! > is there any way to use it on Mac? > The first step (the sib plugin) works already well. > > ~Ewald > I have uploaded the SIB2LY suite in form of Ruby scripts. These should be useable on any platform that is capable of ru

Re: \partial Problem

2010-02-01 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Hello Kieren, this helped indeed. Thanks! But I dont understand how you did it. Did you put a second melody before (underneath )? And if the MelodyOne has 254 Bars, do I have to write: > \repeat "volta" 2 { >\partial 16 s16 >s255... > } > \repeat "volta" 2 { >\partial 16 s16 >s

Re: \partial Problem

2010-02-01 Thread Hajo Dezelski
After looking at my own trials: Before the example which I sent to the list I also tried: \context Staff << { \clef treble \key d \minor \time 4/4 \partial 16 \melody } >> without declaring \partial in the voices. But that provided the same warning. Anyway: subtile changes provide sometimes

Re: \partial Problem

2010-02-01 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Hajo, > Did you put a second melody before (underneath )? Sorry: I don't understand this question. > And if the MelodyOne has 254 Bars, do I have to write: If you only need multiple voices for one small bit (e.g., a single note), then write them "inline", instead of splitting the voices for

Re: \partial Problem

2010-02-01 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Hello Kieren, now I got it. Never thought about this possibilty. Thanks again. Problem solved. We can move on. Hajo --- ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Hajo, > >> Did you put a second melody before (underneath )? >

pid leakage in LilyPond

2010-02-01 Thread Patrick Karl
I have noticed a resource problem in LilyPond, namely invocation of the "Compile/Typeset file" command in interactive mode always consumes one more pid. When I enter music, I incrementally compile it as I go. I do my work on a Mac running OS 10.4. There are a fixed number of pids availab

RE: pid leakage in LilyPond

2010-02-01 Thread James Lowe
Patrick, Excuse my ignorance but what is 'interactive mode' in this context? I use Mac OS X 10.5.8 with Lilypond 2.13.10 and the inbuilt Lilypond editor, and I cmd-s, cmd-r my way through a piece from scratch so that can be hundreds of these commands run concurrently in one session. I checked i

Re: pid leakage in LilyPond

2010-02-01 Thread James Bailey
On 01.02.2010, at 21:27, Patrick Karl wrote: I have noticed a resource problem in LilyPond, namely invocation of the "Compile/Typeset file" command in interactive mode always consumes one more pid. When I enter music, I incrementally compile it as I go. I do my work on a Mac running OS 1

Re: pid leakage in LilyPond

2010-02-01 Thread James Bailey
On 01.02.2010, at 21:27, Patrick Karl wrote: I have noticed a resource problem in LilyPond, namely invocation of the "Compile/Typeset file" command in interactive mode always consumes one more pid. When I enter music, I incrementally compile it as I go. I do my work on a Mac running OS 1

Re: pid leakage in LilyPond

2010-02-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 10:36:46PM +0100, James Bailey wrote: > > On 01.02.2010, at 21:27, Patrick Karl wrote: > >> When I enter music, I incrementally compile it as I go. >> I do my work on a Mac running OS 10.4. There are a fixed number of >> pids available for all the programs running on the

Re: Ambitus

2010-02-01 Thread Neil Puttock
On 31 January 2010 20:01, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > You can write your own engraver that listens to the note-event rather than the > created NoteHead grobs. There, you can easily extract the pitch... Of course! Though there's still the problem of how to funnel the pitch information to a title

Re: New Sibelius to LilyPond conversion suite

2010-02-01 Thread Johan Vromans
Kirill writes: > > Must I conclude that this, too, requires Sibelius 6 or higher? > > I have no way of testing if it works for Sibelius earlier than 5. > However, I see no reason why it shouldn't work with Sibelius 5. > I have only tested it with Sibelius 6, though. > > Try running the dump plu

Lilypond vs Score

2010-02-01 Thread Bobber
I have been having a discussion with a small publisher who uses the music manuscript program called Score. He says that neither Lilypond or Finale can produce engraving that is comparable to Score. And that most of the major music publishers in the world use Score. Is anyone familiar with Sc

Fwd: pid leakage in LilyPond

2010-02-01 Thread Patrick Karl
I sent this response earlier to James Lowe privately for unknown reasons. It illustrates more completely what I'm talking about. A little more looking around on my Mac shows: sully:/etc pat$ sysctl -a | grep proc kern.maxproc = 532 kern.maxfilesperproc = 10240 kern.maxprocperuid = 100 kern.a

Re: Lilypond vs Score

2010-02-01 Thread David Bobroff
On 2/1/2010 9:57 PM, Bobber wrote: I have been having a discussion with a small publisher who uses the music manuscript program called Score. He says that neither Lilypond or Finale can produce engraving that is comparable to Score. And that most of the major music publishers in the world use

Re: Lilypond vs Score

2010-02-01 Thread Brett McCoy
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Bobber wrote: > I have been having a discussion with a small publisher who uses the music > manuscript program called Score.  He says that neither Lilypond or Finale > can produce engraving that is comparable to Score.  And that most of the > major music publishers

Re: Double treble and (alternative) percussion clefs

2010-02-01 Thread Caio Barros
Thank you, it did help! Only thing missing is that this is a transposing clef of one octave lower but this is easy to do. 2010/2/1 Kieren MacMillan > Hi Caio, > > > as far as I know Lilypond don't have the Double Treble Clef > > You can always roll your own: > > \version "2.13.11" > > doubleCle

Re: pid leakage in LilyPond

2010-02-01 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 09:40:11PM +, Graham Percival wrote: > >> When I enter music, I incrementally compile it as I go. > >> I do my work on a Mac running OS 10.4. There are a fixed number of > >> pids available for all the programs running on the Mac. > > > Excuse my ignorance, but what

Re: Lilypond vs Score

2010-02-01 Thread Jonathan Kulp
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Brett McCoy wrote: > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Bobber wrote: > > > I have been having a discussion with a small publisher who uses the music > > manuscript program called Score. He says that neither Lilypond or Finale > > can produce engraving that is compa

Lilypond vs Score

2010-02-01 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
> -- > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:57:49 -0600 > From: Bobber > Subject: Lilypond vs Score > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Message-ID: <4b674e5d.3030...@kc0dxf.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; > format=flowed > > I have been having a dis

Re: Lilypond vs Score

2010-02-01 Thread Patrick McCarty
On 2010-02-01, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > I'm also curious to hear from anyone who has had experience using > Score, and comparing to Lilypond output. There are some wacky > examples of Score output at: > http://www.scoremus.com/ > > (especially that deer standing on the staff! There needs to b

Re: Lilypond vs Score

2010-02-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 03:57:49PM -0600, Bobber wrote: > I have been having a discussion with a small publisher who uses the > music manuscript program called Score. He says that neither Lilypond or > Finale can produce engraving that is comparable to Score. And that most > of the major mu

Re: s or \skip - bug or expectable behaviour?

2010-02-01 Thread James Bailey
On 02.02.2010, at 00:00, -Eluze wrote: % weird: breaks = { s 1 * 44 } music = { \repeat unfold 3 { c c c r } } << \music \\ \breaks >> translates to: breaks = "s1*44" music = {\repeat unfold 3{ c1*44 c1*44 c1*44 r1*44}} <<\music\\breaks>> See the problem? Remember lilypond copies the previo

Re: Lilypond vs Score

2010-02-01 Thread David Stocker
Hi Bob, SCORE is an old program and, while I think it is still being supported, I don't think it's under active development. It's a DOS program and there have been rumors for years of a Windows port, but no one seems to know whether it's happening or not. While a small number of publishers a

Re: Lilypond vs Score

2010-02-01 Thread David Nalesnik
I'll now post this to the entire list! It's been a long time since I've used Score (late 90s), but one of the great things about the program was the precise control it allowed of all elements in a score. For example, it allowed you to specify the exact horizontal and vertical positions of all obj

Re: Lilypond vs Score

2010-02-01 Thread Bobber
Graham Percival wrote: Score can do stuff like having the staves in a spiral. Think of George Crumb -- if he used any computer engraver, it would be score. Score is also not free: it's not open source, and IIRC it costs $500 or more. I only saw it briefly a few years ago. I think our fonts ar

Re: Lilypond vs Score

2010-02-01 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 2/1/10 3:08 PM, "David Bobroff" wrote: > On 2/1/2010 9:57 PM, Bobber wrote: >> >> Is anyone familiar with Score and what makes it superior? >> > > to use Finale, but haven't in several years) and he is also probably > correct when he says that most major publishing houses use Score. The

Re: Lilypond vs Score

2010-02-01 Thread Bernhard Ott
On 02/02/2010 01:24 AM, Bobber wrote: That ability would seem to indicate more possibilities. The person I spoke to who is one of the publishers listed on the Wikipedia page, said that the output of both Finale and Lilypond was unacceptable for a professional publisher. IMHO it's not only the so

Re: New Sibelius to LilyPond conversion suite

2010-02-01 Thread Kirill
Johan Vromans squirrel.nl> writes: > > This is really very good stuff! > Johan, Thank you for your report! 1) NumStaveLines has apparently been introduced only in Sib6. Using the value of NumStaveLines the interpreter decides whether the staff is a normal staff or a rythmic staff (hence all

Re: Lilypond vs Score

2010-02-01 Thread Jack Cooper
I'm not saying it is inconceivable that a DOS-based relic of a program would be considered superior to any open source or commercially developed notation software over the last twenty years, but claims like this set my bullshit detector clanging like a chinese fire drill. Think of it this way-

braille output

2010-02-01 Thread David Olson
If a blind singer starts coming to our group, and we already have our songs in .ly files, is there a way of generating braille copies? Surfing the web, I see that historically, various hopeful announcements have been made, but I can't find anything documentationwise. David Olson _

Re: New Sibelius to LilyPond conversion suite

2010-02-01 Thread Johan Vromans
Kirill writes: > 1) NumStaveLines has apparently been introduced only in Sib6. Using > the value of NumStaveLines the interpreter decides whether the staff > is a normal staff or a rythmic staff (hence all your staves are > RhythmicStaffs). I guess I will have to detect it differently for > Sib5.