Re: Vowel with Umlaut

2011-10-19 Thread David Rogers
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: GRAEME F ST CLAIR graeme_st_cl...@atlanticbb.net writes: Well, I plowtered (Scottish word) around with jEdit, but didn't get much where, so I recovered a Windows Emacs from backup, that I'd never got round to trying, installed it and got exactly nowhere

Re: Vowel with Umlaut

2011-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.com writes: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: GRAEME F ST CLAIR graeme_st_cl...@atlanticbb.net writes: Well, I plowtered (Scottish word) around with jEdit, but didn't get much where, so I recovered a Windows Emacs from backup, that I'd never got round

Three voices plus tie in RH - notation best practice?

2011-10-19 Thread James Harkins
Hi, a notational correctness question rather than a lilypond technical question, hope that's okay. A student brought in some work today, some of which calls for three voices in the right hand of a PianoStaff. Minus expressive marks, the lilypond example below gets the point across, but I

Re: Three voices plus tie in RH - notation best practice?

2011-10-19 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/10/19 James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com: Hi, a notational correctness question rather than a lilypond technical question, hope that's okay. A student brought in some work today, some of which calls for three voices in the right hand of a PianoStaff. Minus expressive marks, the

Re: Three voices plus tie in RH - notation best practice?

2011-10-19 Thread -Eluze
paconet.org wrote: I changed this to a2. a4~ \shiftOff a2 you can use \override NoteColumn #'force-hshift = #.001 to avoid the warning - but i still don't like the output: the a seems tied to the c#. Eluze -- View this message in context:

Re: Three voices plus tie in RH - notation best practice?

2011-10-19 Thread -Eluze
-Eluze wrote: paconet.org wrote: I changed this to a2. a4~ \shiftOff a2 you can use \override NoteColumn #'force-hshift = #.001 to avoid the warning - but i still don't like the output: the a seems tied to the c#. a satisfying solution could be \once \override Tie

lilypond / inkscape

2011-10-19 Thread Gerard McConnell
I often see topics introduced here in which solutions are sought for font-related or position-related problems. Almost all of these problems are easily solved by creating an SVG file with Lilypond and then editing that file with Inkscape.What is the downside of working this way?

Re: lilypond / inkscape

2011-10-19 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Oct 19, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Gerard McConnell wrote: I often see topics introduced here in which solutions are sought for font-related or position-related problems. Almost all of these problems are easily solved by creating an SVG file with Lilypond and then editing that file with

Re: lilypond / inkscape

2011-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
Gerard McConnell gerine...@gmail.com writes: I often see topics introduced here in which solutions are sought for font-related or position-related problems.  Almost all of these problems are easily solved by creating an SVG file with Lilypond and then editing that file with Inkscape.    What

Re: lilypond / inkscape

2011-10-19 Thread padovani
For me the downside is that svg does not import \postscript markups... and inkscape, as you said, does not import correctly lilypond ps and eps files... (I use \postscript to create some curved glissandos and specific woodwind diagrams - with trills in specific keys, for example). [see

Re: Using flat symbol in text

2011-10-19 Thread Jean-Alexis Montignies
On 19 oct. 2011, at 01:03, Xavier Scheuer wrote: On 18 October 2011 10:06, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote: I occasionally want to use the flat symbol in a header, usually to indicate the original key when a piece has been transposed from the original key. Neither way I have

Re: Three voices plus tie in RH - notation best practice?

2011-10-19 Thread James Harkins
At Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:02:41 +0200, Francisco Vila wrote: I changed this to a2. a4~ \shiftOff a2 and the collision is avoided although you obtain a chord and a warning instead of nice voice independence. and a satisfying solution could be \once \override Tie #'details =

Re: Three voices plus tie in RH - notation best practice?

2011-10-19 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hello James, this is a question, that really can take hours, nights or whatever ... Elaine Gould says, Ties shall almost touch the note head and they shall not fall onto a stave-line (pp. 60) Here are two techniques I usally use to solve such problems. First it is a scheme-destillation to

Re: Three voices plus tie in RH - notation best practice?

2011-10-19 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
oh sorry, I just responded the same way. Normally I would say: make the tie look better, because I always *first* try to get everything the way the composer wrote it. After reading a handwritten piece a few times, I often see good reason for an unconventional notation. In this case I would

Re: Three voices plus tie in RH - notation best practice?

2011-10-19 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 16:27 +0800, James Harkins wrote: Hi, a notational correctness question rather than a lilypond technical question, hope that's okay. A student brought in some work today, some of which calls for three voices in the right hand of a PianoStaff. Minus expressive marks,

A problem with lilypond

2011-10-19 Thread musicarock
Hello, I am new to the list then I have not followed the discussion on lilypond, just do not know if I'm facing the problem that has already been discussed, if so I apologize. The situation is that I'm developing a site with some tests on music theory and I am using the language lilypond to

Re: A problem with lilypond

2011-10-19 Thread Jonathan Kulp
2011/10/19 musicar...@pop.com.br: Hello, I am new to the list then I have not followed the discussion on lilypond, just do not know if I'm facing the problem that has already been discussed, if so I apologize. The situation is that I'm developing a site with some tests on music theory and I

Re: Vowel with Umlaut

2011-10-19 Thread David Rogers
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net writes: On 19/10/11 05:09, GRAEME F ST CLAIR wrote: General reply to Messrs Rogers, Peekay and Kastrup! In the end I googled lilypond and found the \char approach myself. Right now, I'm settling for it, because as

overriding the order of accidentals in a chord

2011-10-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello all! Is there an easy way to override the order of accidentals appearing next to a chord, e.g. have the natural come first in the following snippet? \version 2.15.14 \relative dis { \clef bass dis! a'! b } I'd like to avoid manually tweaking the position (e.g., offset) value of each

Re: Vowel with Umlaut

2011-10-19 Thread David Kastrup
David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.com writes: I don't believe there is any good reason for a non-programmer to be using anything other than Unicode (usually as UTF-8, but whichever way the particular system wants to handle Unicode) for day-to-day things. The limitations of ASCII made

Re: A problem with lilypond

2011-10-19 Thread musicarock
Thank you very much Jon, the command line lilypond --png -dpreview -dno-print-pages file.ly will help me a lot. Later I will test de lily2image for larger scores. I am facing another problem. I am not sure, but I think that it may be not possible. The situation is that I have to completely

Re: overriding the order of accidentals in a chord

2011-10-19 Thread Thomas Morley
Hi Kieren 2011/10/19 Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca Hello all! Is there an easy way to override the order of accidentals appearing next to a chord, e.g. have the natural come first in the following snippet? (...) I'm not aware of any easy method to do so. But are you sure

Re: A problem with lilypond

2011-10-19 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/10/19 musicar...@pop.com.br: Another problem is that when the sound is generated sometimes makes a loud pop at the beginning of the audio. Has anyone had this problem before? What to do to fix it? As far as I can tell, LilyPond does not generate audio. It can generate MIDI files, that

Re: A problem with lilypond

2011-10-19 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/10/19 musicar...@pop.com.br: The situation is that I have to completely fill all the lilypond´s code on the site and then generate the score. It gets difficult to count the bars and the note durations and get right for the first time. I were wondering if there is someway to fill the code

Re: overriding the order of accidentals in a chord

2011-10-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Thomas, I'm not aware of any easy method to do so. But are you sure you want to? In the following I did it manually, and I don't like the output: Yes, that example doesn't look great… but here's a more compelling (to me) snippet: \version 2.15.14 \language english \relative a' { a b ds

Re: A problem with lilypond

2011-10-19 Thread Brett McCoy
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote: 2011/10/19  musicar...@pop.com.br: The situation is that I have to completely fill all the lilypond´s code on the site and then generate the score. It gets difficult to count the bars and the note durations and get

Re: Disappearing hyphens (endashes) in lyrics

2011-10-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Peter, So, I want to keep the en-dashes in the typeset lyrics, but I do not want them to be matched to any notes, but rather have them occupy the space between the words, and under the space between the notes. Then you should probably use hidden notes, and attach the en-dash as a lyric

Re: A problem with lilypond

2011-10-19 Thread Jonathan Kulp
2011/10/19 musicar...@pop.com.br: The situation is that I have to completely fill all the lilypond´s code on the site and then generate the score. It gets difficult to count the bars and the note durations and get right for the first time. I were wondering if there is someway to fill the

Re: overriding the order of accidentals in a chord

2011-10-19 Thread Thomas Morley
Hi Kieren 2011/10/20 Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca (...) \version 2.15.14 \language english \relative a' { a b ds fss b2\arpeggio } (...) Without the tweak, the space before the note (which, in this case, is the downbeat of a measure) is extremely large — as a result,

Re: Using flat symbol in text

2011-10-19 Thread Bill Mooney
Hi Nick, After a bit of tinkering, and using the Character Map application (Ubuntu10.04)(but I would think it would also work in Windows) to ' Copy' the character 'music flat sign' (which has the same code as you used - funnily enough! :) ) I think the following provide what I think is a

Re: Disappearing hyphens (endashes) in lyrics

2011-10-19 Thread David Rogers
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: Hi Peter, So, I want to keep the en-dashes in the typeset lyrics, but I do not want them to be matched to any notes, but rather have them occupy the space between the words, and under the space between the notes. Then you should

Re: How to read out the number of beams and the space between them?

2011-10-19 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Harm, On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 5:15 PM, harm6 thomasmorle...@googlemail.comwrote: I've been thinking about this some more. Specifically, I've noticed that adding the beam widths and the spaces between the beams doesn't seem to add up precisely to the total extent of the beam. The

between stanza spacing

2011-10-19 Thread Cordilow
There was once a way to make the stanzas (lyric verses) closer to each other a few versions of LilyPond ago. Now, however, they're kind of far apart again, whether or not they're closer than without what I'm doing (this is in the current version, the development version as well as some of the

the interaction of \paper spacing variables

2011-10-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello, all! I'm using 2.15.14, and finding certain \paper variables not working as I would have thought. Manually forcing line and page breaks, I found a format I like: 1 page of 3 systems, then 4 pages of 4 systems each, for a total of 19 systems over 5 pages. So I inserted a \pageBreak

Re: between stanza spacing

2011-10-19 Thread David Rogers
Cordilow arv...@gmail.com writes: There was once a way to make the stanzas (lyric verses) closer to each other a few versions of LilyPond ago. Now, however, they're kind of far apart again, whether or not they're closer than without what I'm doing (this is in the current version, the

Re: A problem with lilypond

2011-10-19 Thread musicarock
The problem is that it´s not me that will use. The main idea is that people that will use range from beginner to advanced level of study in music. So I would like to make as easy as possible for the users.The usability is very important nowadays. I have found something more or less as I was