Re: Color-coding \voiceXXX contents?

2013-04-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/10 Urs Liska : > Is it possible to hook into the \voiceXXX commands to (optionally) color-code > them? > This could be helpful when dealing with complex polyphonic situations. > In my experience it is often enough to assign the right voice to get the > spacing right, and it would be nice i

Color-coding \voiceXXX contents?

2013-04-09 Thread Urs Liska
Is it possible to hook into the \voiceXXX commands to (optionally) color-code them? This could be helpful when dealing with complex polyphonic situations. In my experience it is often enough to assign the right voice to get the spacing right, and it would be nice if the eye would be assisted with

Re: call for italian users: translation of "feathered beams" and other terms

2013-04-09 Thread Federico Bruni
2013/4/9 Federico Bruni > Common Practice Period > well, this one has been translated before: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/writing-pitches#note-names-in-other-languages as "Periodo di pratica comune" does it refer to the western classic music? better ideas?

Re: call for italian users: translation of "feathered beams" and other terms

2013-04-09 Thread Federico Bruni
2013/4/8 Davide Liessi > Sources: > [G] = "Enciclopedia della Musica", Garzanti, Milano, 1996 > [Z] = Daniele Zanettovich, "Elementi fondamentali di teoria e di > ortografia musicale", Pizzicato edizioni musicali, Udine, 1988 > > Unreferenced statements are my personal opinions. > Ciao Davide,

Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possible in Finale and Sibelius

2013-04-09 Thread Urs Liska
On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 21:50:59 +0100 "Phil Holmes" wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Urs Liska" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 9:05 PM > Subject: Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possible in Finale and Sibelius > > > > Am 09.04.2013 18:26, schrieb Urs Liska: > >> I never

Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possiblein Finale and Sibelius

2013-04-09 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > I commented in an earlier message that Sibelius, IMHO, produces > witheringly appalling graphics output. Unaliased, At high resolution (print or Epaper) this is a defensible decision for getting high-contrast output. But the rendition is still appallingly bad given the

Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possible in Finale and Sibelius

2013-04-09 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Peterson writes: > I'm not an expert on GhostScript, but in practice it is nearly always > best to rasterize vector graphics at the intended output resolution. Except when it isn't. What makes you think that the PDF viewers are doing anything but rasterizing vector graphics at the intended

Re: Question about left-aligning syllables at beginning of lines

2013-04-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2013/4/9 Carl Peterson : > The best I can do for a sample at the moment is this PDF that is an > advertisement for a hymnal that uses left-justified first syllables. It does > not right-justify the last syllables. > > http://www.sumphoniahymnal.com/copy-content/hymnal-info-toc.pdf Hmm. I see

Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possible in Finale and Sibelius

2013-04-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.04.2013 18:26, schrieb Urs Liska: I never used Sibelius, and the last version of Finale I actually worked with was 2001. Therefore I'd like to ask here before writing something inappropriately negative about them ;-) Is it possible to output cropped output in .png or .pdf format from th

Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possiblein Finale and Sibelius

2013-04-09 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 6:49 PM Subject: Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possiblein Finale and Sibelius Urs Liska writes: It seems this is Sibelius 7's default. See attached PNG. Huh? The perfectly rendered stafflines

Re: Question about left-aligning syllables at beginning of lines

2013-04-09 Thread Carl Peterson
Eduardo, It's not so bad if you don't care where the system breaks are. For most hymns, the default behavior does a decent job of producing output with a reasonable density. The issue comes in if you want to lay your music out so that the lyrics are laid out with the same line breaks as if they we

Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possible in Finale and Sibelius

2013-04-09 Thread Carl Peterson
I'm not an expert on GhostScript, but in practice it is nearly always best to rasterize vector graphics at the intended output resolution. The issue is how that graphic is downsampled. For example, if I rasterize a two-pixel wide black vertical line down to half the resolution, depending on where t

RE: Question about left-aligning syllables at beginning of lines

2013-04-09 Thread Eduardo Silva
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 13:34:03 -0400 Subject: Re: Question about left-aligning syllables at beginning of lines From: carlopeter...@gmail.com To: janek.lilyp...@gmail.com CC: lilypond-user@gnu.org The best I can do for a sample at the moment is this PDF that is an advertisement for a hymnal that

Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possible in Finale and Sibelius

2013-04-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> As far as what can be controlled by Lilypond and it's developers, > making sure PNG files are generated well *is* something that should > be addressed, since that is completely within Lilypond's control. Does GhostScript's PNG backend produces satisfying results? Otherwise, what about creating

Re: Rests in TabVoice

2013-04-09 Thread Noeck
Hi, as contribution to this discussion: the staves number 3 and 4 in the attachment is what would please my eyes the most (for n staff lines): multi measure and whole rests: hanging from the staff line above the centre: staff line floor(n/2) counting from top to bottom half rests: sitting on

Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possible in Finale and Sibelius

2013-04-09 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 04/09/2013 08:47 PM, Alexander Kobel wrote: [...] Besides, rectangles bound /regions,/ and I see a valid point in not willfully changing regions or areas. For lines, it's slightly more likely that the designer intended the object to be a line than for rectangles. [...] By the way: I stumble

Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possible in Finale and Sibelius

2013-04-09 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Kobel writes: > On 04/09/2013 08:26 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> 2013/4/9 Werner LEMBERG: >>> It's a very hard problem and probably not solvable. >>> >>> Ah, I misread, sorry. Yes, it might be worth to test with line >>> strokes. >> >> I find it most interesting that apparently the

Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possible in Finale and Sibelius

2013-04-09 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 04/09/2013 08:26 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2013/4/9 Werner LEMBERG: It's a very hard problem and probably not solvable. Ah, I misread, sorry. Yes, it might be worth to test with line strokes. I find it most interesting that apparently there is some way to solve this problem. If line st

Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possible in Finale and Sibelius

2013-04-09 Thread Carl Peterson
The problem is that how a Lily output is rendered by a PDF reader is not within the realm of control for Lilypond. The fact is that some PDF features are handled differently by different viewers, if they are handled at all. For example, in my graphic design work, I learned that transparency is a bi

Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possible in Finale and Sibelius

2013-04-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/9 David Kastrup : > Janek Warchoł writes: > >> 2013/4/9 David Kastrup : >>> Urs Liska writes: >>> It seems this is Sibelius 7's default. See attached PNG. >>> >>> Huh? The perfectly rendered stafflines make it clear that this is not a >>> scanned image. But clef, noteheads and t

Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possible in Finale and Sibelius

2013-04-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> It's a very hard problem and probably not solvable. Ah, I misread, sorry. Yes, it might be worth to test with line strokes. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possible in Finale and Sibelius

2013-04-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Have you seen > http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2658 ? *That's* > appalling - and it's how LilyPond output is rendered :( :( :( (image > attached) It's sad that there are no comments on this issue after 9 > months :( It's a very hard problem and probably not solvable. Essen

Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possible in Finale and Sibelius

2013-04-09 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł writes: > 2013/4/9 David Kastrup : >> Urs Liska writes: >> >>> It seems this is Sibelius 7's default. See attached PNG. >> >> Huh? The perfectly rendered stafflines make it clear that this is not a >> scanned image. But clef, noteheads and text are rendered _appallingly_ >> a

Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possible in Finale and Sibelius

2013-04-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/9 David Kastrup : > Urs Liska writes: > >> It seems this is Sibelius 7's default. See attached PNG. > > Huh? The perfectly rendered stafflines make it clear that this is not a > scanned image. But clef, noteheads and text are rendered _appallingly_ > awful, like it would be dithering

Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possible in Finale and Sibelius

2013-04-09 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > It seems this is Sibelius 7's default. See attached PNG. Huh? The perfectly rendered stafflines make it clear that this is not a scanned image. But clef, noteheads and text are rendered _appallingly_ awful, like it would be dithering the stroke widths. Hopefully not t

Re: Question about left-aligning syllables at beginning of lines

2013-04-09 Thread Carl Peterson
The best I can do for a sample at the moment is this PDF that is an advertisement for a hymnal that uses left-justified first syllables. It does not right-justify the last syllables. http://www.sumphoniahymnal.com/copy-content/hymnal-info-toc.pdf This hymnal does something else I wouldn't mind be

Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possible in Finale and Sibelius

2013-04-09 Thread Urs Liska
Thanks for that clarification. So this isn't a 'selling point' for LilyPond anymore ... Urs Am 09.04.2013 18:59, schrieb Phil Holmes: - Original Message - From: "Urs Liska" To: "Lilypond-User" Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 5:26 PM Subject: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possible in F

Re: Question about left-aligning syllables at beginning of lines

2013-04-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/9 Carl Peterson : > As I mentioned in another thread, I'm working on a hymnal/psalter project > and ideally would like to justify both the left and right edges of each line > of lyrics. Interesting. I don't quite see why you would want that - i'd have to see a picture. Anyway, i'm pretty s

Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possible in Finale and Sibelius

2013-04-09 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 04/09/2013 06:26 PM, Urs Liska wrote: > When I used Finale one had to draw a rectangle with the mouse that then was > exported. > Needless to say that this is a poor way to consistently line up music > fragments > in a text document. I doubt this is the way a hardcore professional engraving pe

Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possible in Finale and Sibelius

2013-04-09 Thread Urs Liska
I never used Sibelius, and the last version of Finale I actually worked with was 2001. Therefore I'd like to ask here before writing something inappropriately negative about them ;-) Is it possible to output cropped output in .png or .pdf format from them, just like -dpreview or lilypond-book

Re: Rests in TabVoice

2013-04-09 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: "Peter Crighton" ; "LilyPond Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 3:55 PM Subject: Re: Rests in TabVoice "Phil Holmes" writes: From: "David Kastrup" To: "Peter Crighton" Cc: "LilyPond Mailing List" Sent:

Re: Rests in TabVoice

2013-04-09 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > From: "David Kastrup" > To: "Peter Crighton" > Cc: "LilyPond Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 3:13 PM > Subject: Re: Rests in TabVoice > >>> Probably the ideal solution would be to have whole and half rests one >>> line lower and all other rests centered be

Re: Rests in TabVoice

2013-04-09 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: "Peter Crighton" Cc: "LilyPond Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 3:13 PM Subject: Re: Rests in TabVoice Probably the ideal solution would be to have whole and half rests one line lower and all other rests centered between the t

Re: Rests in TabVoice

2013-04-09 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Peter Crighton" To: "David Kastrup" Cc: "LilyPond Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 2:48 PM Subject: Re: Rests in TabVoice 2013/4/9 David Kastrup Peter Crighton writes: > Hello there, > > would it be possible to attach rests in a TabVoice t

Re: Rests in TabVoice

2013-04-09 Thread David Kastrup
Peter Crighton writes: > 2013/4/9 David Kastrup >> >> Peter Crighton writes: >> >> > Hello there, >> > >> > would it be possible to attach rests in a TabVoice to a different >> > line? At least whole and half rests look terribly vertically >> > off-centered, especially in four-line staffs, and

fonts inside a project folder

2013-04-09 Thread Stjepan Horvat
Is it possible to include fonts from a folder inside my project and not from global ~/.fonts folder? It is easy-er when making backup to include fonts which are allready inside a project. -- *Nesmotren govori kao da mačem probada, a jezik je mudrih iscjeljenje. Izreke 12:18* _

Re: Question about score count

2013-04-09 Thread Kai Lautenschläger
Hello Carl, that works perfect! Thanks a lot. best regards Kai > I seem to remember looking in the documentation that you would refer to the > variable in Scheme as #(numbered-title t). Could be wrong. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@g

Re: Rests in TabVoice

2013-04-09 Thread Peter Crighton
2013/4/9 David Kastrup > > Peter Crighton writes: > > > Hello there, > > > > would it be possible to attach rests in a TabVoice to a different > > line? At least whole and half rests look terribly vertically > > off-centered, especially in four-line staffs, and they would benefit > > from being a

Re: lilypond source and music sheet database

2013-04-09 Thread Stjepan Horvat
Thanks Joseph for pointing me to git checkouts..it works for me. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 7:42 PM, pls wrote: > On 07.04.2013, at 19:29, Joseph Rushton Wakeling < > joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net> wrote: > > On 04/07/2013 06:51 PM, Stjepan Horvat wrote: > > I realy like git too..Once i tried to make

Re: Displaying an empty staff

2013-04-09 Thread Carlo Stemberger
2013/4/8 David Kastrup > > \new Staff { $(skip-of-length mybass) } > > Great! That's perfect. Thank you very much, David. Carlo ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Question about score count

2013-04-09 Thread Carl Peterson
Kai, I seem to remember looking in the documentation that you would refer to the variable in Scheme as #(numbered-title t). Could be wrong. Cheers, Carl On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Kai Lautenschläger < kai.lautenschlae...@me.com> wrote: > Hi Jay, > > that is a great function. Unfortunately

Re: Question about left-aligning syllables at beginning of lines

2013-04-09 Thread Carl Peterson
As I mentioned in another thread, I'm working on a hymnal/psalter project and ideally would like to justify both the left and right edges of each line of lyrics. I'm willing to settle for the left edge, if the right edge is too cumbersome to do. I manually right-justified the last syllables on one

Re: Question about score count

2013-04-09 Thread Kai Lautenschläger
Hi Jay, that is a great function. Unfortunately I have no knowledge of scheme whatsoever. So I'd like to ask, if there is a simple solution for the following question. I use the described counter and would like to use titles which are defined in a variable instead of the actual text. Let's ass

Re: Question about left-aligning syllables at beginning of lines

2013-04-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/9 Carl Peterson : > I know this question has been posed before on this list, but either there > wasn't a definitive answer that I could find or I just couldn't understand > it. I know that I can manually trigger left-aligning syllables at the > beginning of lines, using > > \once \override L

Re: musicxml2ly enhancements

2013-04-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.04.2013 13:19, schrieb Janek Warchoł: 2013/4/9 Werner LEMBERG : Putting the bar number at the start of the line would require %{ 5 %} a,4 ( a4 ) ( b4 ) d4 | instead. I like that. It's tedious to type manually, but a computer program doesn't know that word :-) Indeed, but i find it

Re: musicxml2ly enhancements

2013-04-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/9 Werner LEMBERG : >> Putting the bar number at the start of the line would require >> >> %{ 5 %} a,4 ( a4 ) ( b4 ) d4 | >> >> instead. > > I like that. It's tedious to type manually, but a computer program > doesn't know that word :-) Indeed, but i find it unreadable, especially if it w

Re: Rests in TabVoice

2013-04-09 Thread David Kastrup
Peter Crighton writes: > Hello there, > > would it be possible to attach rests in a TabVoice to a different > line? At least whole and half rests look terribly vertically > off-centered, especially in four-line staffs, and they would benefit > from being attached one line lower. > Other rests mig

Re: musicxml2ly enhancements

2013-04-09 Thread lists
OK. Please consider my suggestion as obsolete, but I'd like to clarify what I intended to say (but obviously failed to do so) Quoting David Kastrup : Urs Liska writes: Would something like %@5 a,4 ( a4 ) ( b4 ) d4 | be an option? The combination'%@' would indicate that the next token is

Rests in TabVoice

2013-04-09 Thread Peter Crighton
Hello there, would it be possible to attach rests in a TabVoice to a different line? At least whole and half rests look terribly vertically off-centered, especially in four-line staffs, and they would benefit from being attached one line lower. Other rests might appear too low then, but I would li

Re: musicxml2ly enhancements

2013-04-09 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/4/9 David Kastrup : > In the same sense that drilling a hole in your knee and pouring in milk > is an option, definitely. ROFLMAO ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: musicxml2ly enhancements

2013-04-09 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Am 09.04.2013 11:38, schrieb Werner LEMBERG: >>> Putting the bar number at the start of the line would require >>> >>>%{ 5 %} a,4 ( a4 ) ( b4 ) d4 | >>> >>> instead. >> I like that. It's tedious to type manually, but a computer program >> doesn't know that word :-) >> >>

Re: musicxml2ly enhancements

2013-04-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.04.2013 11:38, schrieb Werner LEMBERG: Putting the bar number at the start of the line would require %{ 5 %} a,4 ( a4 ) ( b4 ) d4 | instead. I like that. It's tedious to type manually, but a computer program doesn't know that word :-) Werner Would something like %@5 a,4 ( a4

Re: musicxml2ly enhancements

2013-04-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Putting the bar number at the start of the line would require > > %{ 5 %} a,4 ( a4 ) ( b4 ) d4 | > > instead. I like that. It's tedious to type manually, but a computer program doesn't know that word :-) Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: musicxml2ly enhancements

2013-04-09 Thread David Kastrup
Jacques Menu TvTMail writes: > The math I mentioned is because I interpreted the bar number in: > > a,4 ( a4 ) ( b4 ) d4 | % 6 > > as a help to locate the offending bar number… Well, it is a help but probably not immediately what you'd like best. I think it is reasonable to have bar checks at t

Re: Question about score count

2013-04-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/9 Carl Peterson : > So...is there a command that would allow me to include a file only once (so > that if it is included a second time, it won't actually be executed) OR to > detect whether the variable has been initialized? I would prefer the first > since that would take care of some forma

Re: musicxml2ly enhancements

2013-04-09 Thread Jacques Menu TvTMail
The math I mentioned is because I interpreted the bar number in: a,4 ( a4 ) ( b4 ) d4 | % 6 as a help to locate the offending bar number… David, sorry I offended you about work going on. I've got only one experience in open software contributions so far, which lead to a dead-end: these

Re: musicxml2ly enhancements

2013-04-09 Thread pls
On 09.04.2013, at 09:01, Urs Liska wrote: > Am 09.04.2013 08:49, schrieb David Kastrup: >> Jacques Menu writes: >> >>> Hello folks, >>> >>> I've been experimenting with Sibelius 7.1.3 as a front-end to Lily, >>> i.e. as a note input engine. >>> >>> This lead me to fix some issues in musicxml2

Re: musicxml2ly enhancements

2013-04-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.04.2013 08:49, schrieb David Kastrup: Jacques Menu writes: Hello folks, I've been experimenting with Sibelius 7.1.3 as a front-end to Lily, i.e. as a note input engine. This lead me to fix some issues in musicxml2ly: - the comment bar number at the end of regular lines is one t