Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.net writes:
Am 2014-01-14 um 14:28 schrieb David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.net writes:
Hi,
if I update my scores with convert-ly to 2.18, it changes every
\vspace to \combine \null \vspace (within \markup{ \column {}
Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au writes:
\version 2.18.0
\score {
{
$(let ((random-state (seed-random-state (current-time
(make-sequential-music
(map (lambda (x)
(let ((idx (random 12 random-state)))
(make-event-chord
Hi Kieren,
Am 16.01.2014 03:16, schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
1. What — if any — drawbacks are there?
- if you use it without any template mechanism, you have to assign
proper edition-engraver id-paths - I can't say, what that means in
production.
- right now it is just ripped out of my working
Hello all,
I am trying to figure out why a code of mine is not compiling, and I found
that this is related to the add-grace-property. The error I receive is:
*Exited with return code -1073741819.*
Here are two minimal examples. The top one compiles, the bottom one doesn't:
Hi Peter,
When engraving music that has only occasionally two or more voices (such as
your example), I personally prefer to explicitly write all voices together
at once in this way:
\version 2.18.0
music = \relative c'' {
2. g c es4 |
{e'4. d8 c2} \\ {g4 a b4. c8} |
e g bes4 es ges b2.
}
Gilberto Agostinho wrote
[...] in this way:
Sorry, I pasted the code incompletely! Here it is:
\version 2.18.0
music = \relative c'' {
2. g c es4 |
{e'4. d8 c2} \\ {g4 a b4. c8} |
e g bes4 es ges b2.
}
\score {
\new Staff \music
}
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Gilberto Agostinho wrote
Sorry, I pasted the code incompletely! Here it is:
Hmm, something is wrong, the first chord of my code is not being shown (at
least here at Nabble), so if someone tries to copy and paste it into a .LY
file and compile, it will not work.
I guess if I upload the code like
Hi Werner,
what will you do with, say, 100 \addAt entries after inserting an additional
bar?
A replace script?
In any case, since it would be an optional parameter, it wouldn’t hurt anyone
to have it in there…
As long as the syntax is clear and easy as to what is and is not a “mark” for
Hi David,
How much sense would it make for there to be a separate \mark-style command
that functioned identically but didn't mess with the counter?
What do you mean? Neither \mark #4 nor \mark G mess with the counter.
The point is that, if \addAt (or whatever) is “relative to marks”, then
Hi Gilberto!
On 01/16/2014 10:44 AM, Gilberto Agostinho wrote:
Hmm, something is wrong, the first chord of my code is not being shown (at
least here at Nabble)
Hmm, strange problem with pasting the code...
On 01/16/2014 10:36 AM, Gilberto Agostinho wrote:
When engraving music that has only
On 01/16/2014 11:14 AM, Peter Bjuhr wrote:
In my present case I must import the music via musicxml2ly because
it's a piece I wrote previously in Finale (which I'm now going to
finish and engrave in LilyPond).
Maybe I should clarify for those not familiar with the output of
musicxml2ly that
Am 16.01.2014 11:14, schrieb Peter Bjuhr:
Hmm, something is wrong, the first chord of my code is not being shown
(at
least here at Nabble)
Hmm, strange problem with pasting the code...
the angled brackets tend to confuse mailing systems because they are
usually used for quotes.
Hi Jan-Peter,
- if you use it without any template mechanism, you have to assign
proper edition-engraver id-paths - I can't say, what that means in
production.
I know you have a well-developed templating system… I wish I had time to look
at it.
2. I want to change the output in context A
Hello,
Does the font handling in Lilypond know about ligatures in opentype
fonts? Using the same font in Indesign and lilypond gives me the
attached output. Compare the ff -- it should look like the Indesign
variant.
Another question: why has the Umlaut over the u gone wrong in
lilypond's
Hi Simon,
Does the font handling in Lilypond know about ligatures in opentype fonts?
I don’t believe so… one of the many typographical features Lilypond lacks.
Using the same font
p.s. What font is that? It’s lovely.
Another question: why has the Umlaut over the u gone wrong in lilypond's
Am 16.01.2014 11:59, schrieb Simon Bailey:
Hello,
Does the font handling in Lilypond know about ligatures in opentype
fonts?
It does. See attachment.
Using the same font in Indesign and lilypond gives me the
attached output. Compare the ff -- it should look like the Indesign
variant.
I
Am 16.01.2014 12:02, schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
p.s. What font is that? It’s lovely.
Adobe Cronos Pro. Unfortunately non-free.
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On 01/16/2014 10:29 AM, Gilberto Agostinho wrote:
I am trying to figure out why a code of mine is not compiling, and I found
that this is related to the add-grace-property. The error I receive is:
*Exited with return code -1073741819.*
Am 16.01.2014 12:08, schrieb Urs Liska:
But for your example I assume that the default font doesn't contain the
ligatures (I had to select a different font to get that result).
Sorry, I'm being stupid.
While compiling with the default font does _not_ give me the ligatures,
using Cronos Pro
p.s. What font is that? It’s lovely.
Adobe Cronos Pro.
Thanks! Ah, that Robert Slimbach… he sure knows what he’s doing.
Unfortunately non-free.
Certain things are worth paying for. =)
Cheers,
Kieren.
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Hi Urs,
I had to select a different font
And which one was that?
Thanks,
Kieren.
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Does the font handling in Lilypond know about ligatures in opentype
fonts?
No. Text handling is done by the Pango library. Unfortunately, we
don't have an interface yet to control OpenType features. This is
issue #1388. The main problem is designing a good interface for
Lilypond; the
Kieren, Urs,
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Kieren MacMillan
kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote:
Does the font handling in Lilypond know about ligatures in opentype fonts?
I don’t believe so… one of the many typographical features Lilypond lacks.
Urs' example seems to show that it
Am 16.01.2014 12:14, schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
Hi Urs,
I had to select a different font
And which one was that?
Minion Pro, by - Robert Slimbach ;-)
I _very_ much like the Minion/Cronos combination and use it all the time.
Minion in particular has the advantage of a wide array of weights
Am 16.01.2014 12:17, schrieb Simon Bailey:
I'm using it through typekit, there are some hoops to jump through to
get lilypond to recognise it.
Which may be a hint where to look for problems.
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Hi Urs,
Minion Pro, by - Robert Slimbach ;-)
I own this! The full Minion Pro MM font was my 21st birthday present from my
parents.
I _very_ much like the Minion/Cronos combination and use it all the time.
I may just have to add Cronos to my font kit.
Minion in particular has the advantage
Am 16.01.2014 12:19, schrieb Urs Liska:
With condensed you have a choice of regular medium and semibold alone to
select for lyrics.
See attached include file on how we fine-tuned the font appearance in
the Fried songs edition.
Urs
\version 2.17.3
%{
Default font set for Adobe Minion Pro
Hi Peter,
Peter Bjuhr wrote
I get Exited with exit status 1. (Ubuntu 13.10).
Could you point me to a reference how to use this?
I don't think I understand what you meant. My problem is exactly that the
second code does not compile, while the top one does. The fact that you get
an error while
On 01/16/2014 12:02 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
Hi Simon,
Does the font handling in Lilypond know about ligatures in opentype fonts?
I don’t believe so… one of the many typographical features Lilypond lacks.
It should, AFAIK.
Using the same font
p.s. What font is that? It’s lovely.
I
David,
On 2014-01-16 18:08, David Kastrup wrote:
Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au writes:
\version 2.18.0
\score {
{
$(let ((random-state (seed-random-state (current-time
(make-sequential-music
(map (lambda (x)
(let ((idx (random 12 random-state)))
hi,
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org wrote:
Am 16.01.2014 12:17, schrieb Simon Bailey:
I'm using it through typekit, there are some hoops to jump through to
get lilypond to recognise it.
Which may be a hint where to look for problems.
copied the .otf file
Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au writes:
David,
I get a GUILE error on line 5
$(let
I don't. Copy and paste error?
$@(let
but that didn't work either (obviously I don't know what I'm doing
. .)
Obviously. $ splices a single expression (which is what
make-sequential-music
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes:
p.s. What font is that? It’s lovely.
Adobe Cronos Pro.
Thanks! Ah, that Robert Slimbach… he sure knows what he’s doing.
Unfortunately non-free.
Certain things are worth paying for. =)
Nothing more worth paying for than freedom. All
Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com writes:
Hello all,
I am trying to figure out why a code of mine is not compiling, and I found
that this is related to the add-grace-property. The error I receive is:
*Exited with return code -1073741819.*
Here are two minimal examples. The top
SOLVED, so I will post the solution here:
David Kastrup wrote me You are deleting all preexisting details without
replacement. So basically what needed to be done is that I should have
written...
'details 'beamed-lengths (3.26 3.26 3.26 3.26)
...instead of:
'details '(beamed-lengths (3.26 3.26
the ligature is obviously there in my copy of the font.
You are aware that `Aufführung' *without* an `ff' ligature is the
correct way to write this word in German? `Auf' is a prefix, and as
such it should not have a ligature with the rest of the word. A
famous example of a similar situation
Am 16.01.2014 12:54, schrieb Werner LEMBERG:
the ligature is obviously there in my copy of the font.
You are aware that `Aufführung' *without* an `ff' ligature is the
correct way to write this word in German? `Auf' is a prefix, and as
such it should not have a ligature with the rest of the
David,
On 2014-01-16 22:42, David Kastrup wrote:
Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au writes:
David,
I get a GUILE error on line 5
$(let
I don't. Copy and paste error?
$@(let
but that didn't work either (obviously I don't know what I'm doing
. .)
Obviously. $ splices a single
Asking for a [selnolig] for LilyPond seems like too much ...
Why not? It shouldn't be too difficult to use the data from this
lualatex package to write a script that walks over lilypond strings,
given that Frescobaldi now has a Python library to parse Lilypond
input files.
Werner
correction: what I thought was the solution is actually not working properly.
It does compiles the code, but it gives an error message. The solution I am
using now is to write down every single element of 'details in their default
values, and then change what I want to change.
Example:
Gilberto Agostinho wrote
This solution is actually not working properly. It works perfectly if
grace notes are below the pitch B in the middle line. If the grace notes
are above (thus having their stem down), I get the following error:
Exited with return code -1073741819.
Solved, now it works
Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au writes:
David,
On 2014-01-16 22:42, David Kastrup wrote:
Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au writes:
David,
I get a GUILE error on line 5
$(let
I don't. Copy and paste error?
$@(let
but that didn't work either (obviously I don't know what I'm
Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com writes:
SOLVED, so I will post the solution here:
David Kastrup wrote me You are deleting all preexisting details without
replacement. So basically what needed to be done is that I should have
written...
'details 'beamed-lengths (3.26 3.26 3.26
Nothing more worth paying for than freedom.
I’m not sure I agree… but this certainly isn’t the place to discuss that.
All my work on LilyPond is freely available but that does not mean that
nobody pays for it.
I well know this. =)
What you mean is certain things are worth paying for even
Hi,
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote:
the ligature is obviously there in my copy of the font.
You are aware that `Aufführung' *without* an `ff' ligature is the
correct way to write this word in German? `Auf' is a prefix, and as
such it should not have a
Am 16.01.2014 13:38, schrieb Simon Bailey:
Hi,
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote:
the ligature is obviously there in my copy of the font.
You are aware that `Aufführung' *without* an `ff' ligature is the
correct way to write this word in German? `Auf' is
Hi David
David Kastrup wrote
Nice idea, doesn't work. add-grace-property does not support
subproperties.
Thanks a lot for your messages and help. I realized that it wasn't working
and I came with the same solution as you wrote. A file with the working code
(named
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org wrote:
The problem (as Wernes said initially) is that you can't _ask_ LilyPond for
it. Depending on your OS and font setup it just does it or not ...
where do i start debugging? this obviously works for other people.
OS: Fedora 20
Hi,
just to add one more (system-)configuration example:
Ligatures work for me on this system:
Linux, Ubuntu 13.10, LilyPond 2.18.0, tested with Linux Libertine and
Century Schoolbook.
It also depends on the font, Linux Libertine shows ligatures for Qu and
Th, Century Schoolbook doesn’t. But
David,
On 2014-01-16 23:24, David Kastrup wrote:
Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au writes:
David,
On 2014-01-16 22:42, David Kastrup wrote:
Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au writes:
David,
I get a GUILE error on line 5
$(let
I don't. Copy and paste error?
$@(let
but that
Hi Simon,
ah, for me it does not work with the default (2.16.2) Lilypond coming
with Ubuntu (/usr/bin/lilypond). But with newer versions installed from
the website, which use different libraries.
Joram
Am 16.01.2014 13:57, schrieb Simon Bailey:
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Urs Liska
hmm. I wasn't actually aware of that. But it makes sense. ;)
Note that the German support for LaTeX goes even one step further: The
command
|
(to be inserted between the two non-ligature characters) adds some
small horizontal space to avoid glyph collisions.
As mentioned by Urs, there is
Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au writes:
David,
So your first statement:
I get a GUILE error on line 5
$(let
was wrong, and my guess
I don't. Copy and paste error?
concerning your use of Paul's converted code was correct. Like with
_any_ material prepared for an older version
On 01/16/2014 02:25 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
hmm. I wasn't actually aware of that. But it makes sense. ;)
Note that the German support for LaTeX goes even one step further: The
command
|
(to be inserted between the two non-ligature characters) adds some
small horizontal space to avoid
Hello listers,
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de wrote:
ah, for me it does not work with the default (2.16.2) Lilypond coming
with Ubuntu (/usr/bin/lilypond). But with newer versions installed from
the website, which use different libraries.
Using the 64 bit _linux_
David,
On 2014-01-17 00:22, David Kastrup wrote:
Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au writes:
David,
So your first statement:
I get a GUILE error on line 5
$(let
was wrong, and my guess
I don't. Copy and paste error?
concerning your use of Paul's converted code was correct. Like
ok, this is a known issue.
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2656#c29
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If for a font ff leads to collisions, and the ligature is not
correct at that point, is it recommended to insert space or to
switch the font?
Yes, at least for German.
Or, stated differently: Should I consider it a sign of low quality
of a font if consecutive letters collide or touch
If for a font ff leads to collisions, and the ligature is not
correct at that point, is it recommended to insert space or to
switch the font?
Yes, at least for German.
Uh, I mean you should insert space. Virtually no font resolves this
`properly' today, I reckon.
Werner
Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au writes:
David,
On 2014-01-17 00:22, David Kastrup wrote:
Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au writes:
David,
So your first statement:
I get a GUILE error on line 5
$(let
was wrong, and my guess
I don't. Copy and paste error?
concerning your use
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes:
If for a font ff leads to collisions, and the ligature is not
correct at that point, is it recommended to insert space or to
switch the font?
Yes, at least for German.
Uh, I mean you should insert space. Virtually no font resolves this
`properly'
On 01/16/2014 03:28 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
[...] As mentioned by Urs, there is even a (semi)automatic solution
called `selnolig' which uses a dictionary of German words to find
and handle such non-ligatures properly (this is, you don't have to
insert | any more).
Amazing. IIUC, that
You are confused about the problem that is being discussed.
Certainly not.
What _you_ are talking about is not how to deal with a defective
ff ligature, but rather about the typographic reasons to
distinguish betweem a _working_ ff ligature and two separate ff
letters when typesetting
On 01/16/2014 03:38 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes:
If for a font ff leads to collisions, and the ligature is not
correct at that point, is it recommended to insert space or to
switch the font?
Yes, at least for German.
Uh, I mean you should insert space.
Copying to -bugs for an issue.
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Hello all,
in the documentation about percussion notation it is said that you
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes:
Peter Crighton wrote:
Hello all,
in the documentation about percussion notation it is said that you need to
include the Parenthesis_engraver in order to use \parenthesize –
under 2.16 there were no errors in this
\version 2.16.2
tom = aap + noot
\book {
\header { title = \tom }
\relative {a b c}
}
under 2.18 the expression tom = aap + noot seems not to be allowed
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After being bitten (unnecessarily) by old code in the LSR and having a
continuing argument with David about how it came about - I have to ask -
is there any reason why all the snippets in the LSR can't be
automatically updated when a new version is introduced? Surely this
would not
David,
On 2014-01-17 01:28, David Kastrup wrote:
Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au writes:
David,
On 2014-01-17 00:22, David Kastrup wrote:
Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au writes:
David,
So your first statement:
I get a GUILE error on line 5
$(let
was wrong, and my guess
I
Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au writes:
David,
- I probably should have posted the code, then it would have been
clear straight away - but it wasn't a copy and paste problem.
So why then did you _first_ state that Paul's version did not work,
including a quote of _Paul's_ version rather
This has been fixed already.
Trevor
Phil Holmes wrote Thursday, January 16, 2014 3:25 PM
Copying to -bugs for an issue.
- Original Message -
From: Peter Crighton
To: LilyPond Mailing List
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:27 PM
Subject: Error in documentation
Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au writes:
People,
After being bitten (unnecessarily) by old code in the LSR and having a
continuing argument with David about how it came about - I have to ask
-
is there any reason why all the snippets in the LSR can't be
automatically updated when a new
- Original Message -
From: Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au
To: Lilypond User lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 3:47 PM
Subject: Updating Snippets in the LSR when versions are updated
People,
After being bitten (unnecessarily) by old code in the LSR and having a
Philip Rhoades wrote
maybe we (and by we I mean you - at least initially) could enhance
this little bit of code to do what my Ruby script was doing?
Hi Phil, Unfortunately I can't afford to take this on. Sounds like it might
be a nice challenge for someone learning Scheme though. :-)
David Kastrup wrote
(make-event-chord
(list
You can forego the above two lines (of course removing the respective
closing parens later on) nowadays.
Hi David, Thanks for that tip. I'll put it on my list to add this revised
2.18 version to the LSR
Tom van der Hoeven t...@vanderhoeven.biz writes:
under 2.16 there were no errors in this
\version 2.16.2
tom = aap + noot
\book {
\header { title = \tom }
\relative {a b c}
}
under 2.18 the expression tom = aap + noot seems not to be
allowed
With the split files there are still a ton of warnings, but it creates and
displays the pdf.
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 2:55 AM, Jan-Peter Voigt jp.vo...@gmx.de wrote:
Hi Alex,
OK ... first note, I use this on my machine with Ubuntu 12.04 having
texlive(2012)-full installed and it does compile
I think you just have to remember to use \oneVoice or \stemNeutral when the
2nd voice isn't playing.
If the 2nd voice is coming and going frequently, you are much better off
using
{ \voiceOne
Music goes here
}
\new Voice {
{ \voiceTwo
Music goes here
}
}
Hi Michael,
thanks for your reply!
On 01/16/2014 07:17 PM, Michael Rivers wrote:
I think you just have to remember to use \oneVoice or \stemNeutral when the
2nd voice isn't playing.
\oneVoice is the best choice, isn't it, because it affects more than
just the stems!?
If the 2nd voice is
On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 15:05:50 +0100
Alexander Kobel n...@a-kobel.de wrote:
I was about to ask in that direction. If for a font ff leads to
collisions, and the ligature is not correct at that point, is it
recommended to insert space or to switch the font? Or, stated
differently: Should I
Is there a way to change the textedit://uri mechanism in PDF
point-and-lick links to point instead to a javascript function in the
webbrowser?
textedit:///path/guitar.ly:42:32:39
would instead be something like:
javascript:parent.handlePdfLinks(path/guitar.ly:42:32:39)
and the above would be
Why do you want to do this? Operating system?
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To: lilypond-user
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:34 PM
Subject: PDF links to javascript?
Is there a way to change the textedit://uri mechanism in PDF
Werner, I hope you agree with my short summaries of your helpful
explanations?
Yep.
Werner
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Hi Phil!
Re. Why do you want to do this?
My source code editor is a javascript app that runs in the browser - Code
Mirror. For compilation, the source code is sent to a server over a
node.js/socket.io websocket; when compilation is complete, server sends
browser a signal and PDF is opened in
Paul,
On 2014-01-17 03:44, Paul Morris wrote:
Philip Rhoades wrote
maybe we (and by we I mean you - at least initially) could enhance
this little bit of code to do what my Ruby script was doing?
Hi Phil, Unfortunately I can't afford to take this on. Sounds like it
might
be a nice
Phil,
On 2014-01-17 03:05, Phil Holmes wrote:
- Original Message - From: Philip Rhoades
p...@pricom.com.au
To: Lilypond User lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 3:47 PM
Subject: Updating Snippets in the LSR when versions are updated
People,
After being bitten
David,
On 2014-01-17 03:12, David Kastrup wrote:
Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au writes:
People,
After being bitten (unnecessarily) by old code in the LSR and having a
continuing argument with David about how it came about - I have to ask
-
is there any reason why all the snippets in the
Hi,
as far as I scanned the thread nobody analyzed the problem of the shifted
umlaut diacritic.
You might look up „composed“ vs. „decomposed“ Unicode - e.g. OSX uses (or used
to use in previous versions) decomposed Unicode, where always „composing“
diacritics are used, opposite to complete
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People,
David took this discussion off-list and then accused me of not having
the guts to respond on-list . . so here the reply I sent him:
On 2014-01-17 16:00, Philip Rhoades wrote:
David,
On 2014-01-17 15:20, David Kastrup wrote:
Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au writes:
David,
So the tex-template doesn't suit (well) other environments then mine.
Another thing I have to look at is: I use system to call the xelatex
process. It might be better to use execp or exece.
I'll investigate.
It should be possible to use pandoc in the same manner. Pandoc can make
use of
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