Re: Where is \staff-space defined?

2014-11-11 Thread Nick Payne
On 11/11/2014 18:19, Werner LEMBERG wrote: I looked up the source code, but I couldn't find the definition of `\staff-space'... BTW, there isn't an index entry for it. There's a sort of definition in Learning Manual 4.3.3: "Distances and lengths in LilyPond are generally measured in staff-spa

Re: Combining Multimeasure rests

2014-11-11 Thread Urs Liska
No idea anybody? I think I can narrow down the question even more: Running the attached file gives (make-music (quote Music)) on the command line. So what I need seems to be a test that returns true if passed the above Scheme construct. I'm not completely sure if that will bring me forward,

Re: Where is \staff-space defined?

2014-11-11 Thread Mike Solomon
> On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:19 AM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > > I looked up the source code, but I couldn't find the definition of > `\staff-space'... > > BTW, there isn't an index entry for it. > > >Werner I’m not sure what ‘\staff-space’ is. I know the meaning of ‘staff-space’ (without th

Re: Combining Multimeasure rests

2014-11-11 Thread Urs Liska
Hm, I was sure I *did* attach the file ... Am 11.11.2014 09:29, schrieb Urs Liska: No idea anybody? I think I can narrow down the question even more: Running the attached file gives (make-music (quote Music)) on the command line. So what I need seems to be a test that returns true if passe

Re: Combining Multimeasure rests

2014-11-11 Thread Mike Solomon
> On Nov 11, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Urs Liska wrote: > > No idea anybody? > > I think I can narrow down the question even more: > > Running the attached file gives > > > (make-music (quote Music)) > > > > on the command line. So what I need seems to be a test that >

Re: Combining Multimeasure rests

2014-11-11 Thread Urs Liska
Am 11.11.2014 09:32, schrieb Mike Solomon: On Nov 11, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Urs Liska > wrote: No idea anybody? I think I can narrow down the question even more: Running the attached file gives (make-music (quote Music)) on the command line. So what I need seems

Re: Where is \staff-space defined?

2014-11-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> I looked up the source code, but I couldn't find the definition of >> `\staff-space'... > > I’m not sure what ‘\staff-space’ is. I know the meaning of > ‘staff-space’ (without the slash), though. Is that what you meant? No, I mean `\staff-space', e.g. line-width = 50\staff-space as docum

Re: MultiMeasureRest.minimum-length only for compressed MMRs

2014-11-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Keith, > Instead of minimum-length of the rest itself, you can set the > minimum-length of the number (which is, maybe non-obviously, also a > 'spanner' of the measure, so that it centers correctly). Then > the minimum-length affects measures with a number printed, which > might be exactly w

Re: Where is \staff-space defined?

2014-11-11 Thread Mike Solomon
> On Nov 11, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > >>> I looked up the source code, but I couldn't find the definition of >>> `\staff-space'... >> >> I’m not sure what ‘\staff-space’ is. I know the meaning of >> ‘staff-space’ (without the slash), though. Is that what you meant? > > No,

Re: Combining Multimeasure rests

2014-11-11 Thread Urs Liska
OK, I figured it out myself. Cool, after learning lots about types and stripping elements out of a list it turned out that it was just one (or) condition I had to add, i.e. a patch with two affected lines ... Am 11.11.2014 09:32, schrieb Urs Liska: Hm, I was sure I *did* attach the file ...

lyrics extender and acciaccatura

2014-11-11 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Hi all, Trying to align a syllable to acciaccaturas, I came across an extender problem: The extender should stop *before* the rest, not when encountering the next acciaccatura. \version "2.19.15" Music = { r4 \acciaccatura { c'8 } e'4~ e'2~ e'1 r4 \acciaccatura { e'8 } c'2. } TextKO

Re: Combining Multimeasure rests

2014-11-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs, Sorry I haven’t been following this… but isn’t this much like ? I can’t remember how far Keith got — but there might be something there to look at. Best, Kieren. ___ Kieren MacMillan, composer ww

Re: lyrics extender and acciaccatura

2014-11-11 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Jean-Charles, On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote: > Hi all, > > Trying to align a syllable to acciaccaturas, I came across an extender > problem: > > The extender should stop *before* the rest, not when encountering the next > acciaccatura. > > The problem I see he

Re: Combining Multimeasure rests

2014-11-11 Thread Urs Liska
Am 11.11.2014 16:48, schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi Urs, Sorry I haven’t been following this… but isn’t this much like ? I can’t remember how far Keith got — but there might be something there to look at. Best, Kieren.

Re: Combining Multimeasure rests

2014-11-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
> there might be something there to look at. In particular, consider the snippet: \version "2.19" #(define (append-merge x l r) "Add x to the head of list l, merging skips, and if r is true also merging full measure rests." (if (and (pair? l) (ly:music? x) (ly:music? (ca

Re: Where is \staff-space defined?

2014-11-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Mike (et al.), While you’re in the spacing world… ;) Is there any way that a function could give horizontal setting values (e.g., bound-padding) in terms of a rhythmic moment [in the current measure]? e.g., \override Hairpin.bound-padding = #’(length-of-moment 1/8) would give horizon

Re: lyrics extender and acciaccatura

2014-11-11 Thread David Nalesnik
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:53 AM, David Nalesnik wrote: > Hi Jean-Charles, > > > The problem I see here is that the X-parent of the LyricText is being set > to the NoteColumn of main note rather than to the grace note. (Perhaps > that's desirable?) > > This doesn't work: \new Staff << \new Vo

Re: lyrics extender and acciaccatura

2014-11-11 Thread David Kastrup
David Nalesnik writes: > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:53 AM, David Nalesnik > wrote: > >> Hi Jean-Charles, >> >> >> The problem I see here is that the X-parent of the LyricText is being set >> to the NoteColumn of main note rather than to the grace note. (Perhaps >> that's desirable?) >> >> > This

Re: lyrics extender and acciaccatura

2014-11-11 Thread David Nalesnik
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:28 AM, David Nalesnik wrote: > >> > Ah, OK. That's the solution to Jean-Charles's problem. > > Nevertheless, it seems that what he describes is a bug. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org

Re: lyrics extender and acciaccatura

2014-11-11 Thread David Nalesnik
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:22 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > > Not much of a surprise here. > > \new Staff << > \new Voice = "music" { \grace c'8 } > \new Lyrics \with { includeGraceNotes = ##t } \lyricsto "music" { hi } > >> > > Ah, OK. That's the solution to Jean-Charles's problem. --David __

Re: Combining Multimeasure rests

2014-11-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs, > I also have some ideas about options for a more manual approach to line > breaking (partially from seeing how easy it is tto push stuff around with > Amadeus). 1. I would love to see Amadeus in action! 2. Using Jan-Peter’s \editionEngraver makes "pushing stuff around” — including l

Trill Span

2014-11-11 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Hello, How do I get the trill span to be over the fourth beat, "e4?" \version "2.18.0" \relative c' { \time 4/4 \clef treble \key c \major c2\startTrillSpan d4 e4\stopTrillSpan | f1 | } Thank you for your kind attention. Mark ___ li

Re: Combining Multimeasure rests

2014-11-11 Thread Urs Liska
Am 11.11.2014 17:26, schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi Urs, I also have some ideas about options for a more manual approach to line breaking (partially from seeing how easy it is tto push stuff around with Amadeus). 1. I would love to see Amadeus in action! Me too (actually I did *not* see it

Re: lyrics extender and acciaccatura

2014-11-11 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 11/11/2014 17:22, David Kastrup a écrit : David Nalesnik writes: On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:53 AM, David Nalesnik wrote: Hi Jean-Charles, The problem I see here is that the X-parent of the LyricText is being set to the NoteColumn of main note rather than to the grace note. (Perhaps tha

Re: Trill Span

2014-11-11 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Mark, 2014-11-11 17:40 GMT+01:00 Mark Stephen Mrotek : > How do I get the trill span to be over the fourth beat, “e4?” > Try : \version "2.18.0" \relative c' { \time 4/4 \clef treble \key c \major \override TrillSpanner.to-barline = ##t c2\startTrillSpan d4 e4 | f1 \stopTril

RE: Trill Span

2014-11-11 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Pierre, Thank you for your reply and the instructions. Mark From: Pierre Perol-Schneider [mailto:pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:02 AM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: lilypond-user Subject: Re: Trill Span Hi Mark, 2014-11-11 17:40 GMT+01:00 Mark St

Re: Combining Multimeasure rests

2014-11-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs, > Me too (actually I did *not* see it but was only told by a power-user (I > think you know who I mean). I do. =) > If you come over here I'll get us an appointment in Munich for a > demonstration ;-) I would love that! > My intention was more in the direction of > http://lists.gnu.

Re: Where is \staff-space defined?

2014-11-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> It seems suspicious. What happens is that in paper-defaults-init.ly, > there is a line: > > %% ugh. hard coded? > #(layout-set-absolute-staff-size (* 20.0 pt)) > > The comment says it all :-) Not that I am not guilty of hardcoding… > no stones are thrown… What's the problem? `paper-defaul

Re: Where is \staff-space defined?

2014-11-11 Thread Mike Solomon
On Nov 11, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > >> It seems suspicious. What happens is that in paper-defaults-init.ly, >> there is a line: >> >> %% ugh. hard coded? >> #(layout-set-absolute-staff-size (* 20.0 pt)) >> >> The comment says it all :-) Not that I am not guilty of hardco

Repeat Volta Bar Types

2014-11-11 Thread Chris Crossen
Is it possible to get different repeat bar images when using \repeat volta ? I am post processing the images produced by LilyPond and would like to use a double-bar in place of the begin-repeat and end-repeat bars. After my post-processing, I can replace the double-bars with the normal repeat ba

Re: Repeat Volta Bar Types

2014-11-11 Thread Jim Long
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 01:39:23PM -0700, Chris Crossen wrote: > Is it possible to get different repeat bar images when using \repeat volta ? One way, although probably not the best way, is to simply specify the bar type with the \bar directive: \version "2.19.3" \new Staff { c'1 \bar "||"

RE: Repeat Volta Bar Types

2014-11-11 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Chris, See http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/bars and http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/long-repeats Mark -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On

Re: Repeat Volta Bar Types

2014-11-11 Thread Chris Crossen
On Nov 11, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Jim Long wrote: > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 01:39:23PM -0700, Chris Crossen wrote: >> Is it possible to get different repeat bar images when using \repeat volta ? > > One way, although probably not the best way, is to simply > specify the bar type with the \bar direct

Re: Repeat Volta Bar Types

2014-11-11 Thread Thomas Morley
2014-11-11 22:31 GMT+01:00 Chris Crossen : > > On Nov 11, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Jim Long wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 01:39:23PM -0700, Chris Crossen wrote: >>> Is it possible to get different repeat bar images when using \repeat volta ? >> >> One way, although probably not the best way, is to

Re: Repeat Volta Bar Types

2014-11-11 Thread Jim Long
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:18:55PM +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > 2014-11-11 22:31 GMT+01:00 Chris Crossen : > > > > On Nov 11, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Jim Long wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 01:39:23PM -0700, Chris Crossen wrote: > >>> Is it possible to get different repeat bar images when usin

Re: Repeat Volta Bar Types

2014-11-11 Thread Thomas Morley
2014-11-11 23:28 GMT+01:00 Jim Long : > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:18:55PM +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: >> 2014-11-11 22:31 GMT+01:00 Chris Crossen : >> > >> > On Nov 11, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Jim Long wrote: >> > >> >> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 01:39:23PM -0700, Chris Crossen wrote: >> >>> Is it possibl

Re: Repeat Volta Bar Types

2014-11-11 Thread Thomas Morley
2014-11-11 23:28 GMT+01:00 Jim Long : > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:18:55PM +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: >> 2014-11-11 22:31 GMT+01:00 Chris Crossen : >> > >> > On Nov 11, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Jim Long wrote: >> > >> >> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 01:39:23PM -0700, Chris Crossen wrote: >> >>> Is it possibl

Re: Repeat Volta Bar Types

2014-11-11 Thread Jim Long
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:50:40PM +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > > Lily by default doesn't engrave an open volta at the start of a > > piece, or at a double-barline. I don't know how many others do, > > but I, for one, often override this. > > > > Both of these cases fail: > > > > \version "2.19.3

Lyric Spacing With Slurs - Help Requested

2014-11-11 Thread Br. Cody Jorgensen
Dear Lilypond Community, I’m highly unsatisfied with the readability of my melismatic notes in modern notation. The spacing seems to be off, with the slur placing the right-most note almost as if it were a part of the next lyric’s note. I’ve searched in vain (quite some time!) for a way to adj

Re: Lyric Spacing With Slurs - Help Requested

2014-11-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello, > I’m highly unsatisfied with the readability of my melismatic notes in modern > notation. The spacing seems to be off, with the slur placing the right-most > note almost as if it were a part of the next lyric’s note. I’ve searched in > vain (quite some time!) for a way to adjust the hor

Re: absolute font size issues

2014-11-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> . What's the unit of \abs-fontsize's `SIZE' parameter? > Typographical Points, i.e. 72.27pt = 1 inch? The documentation > lacks this. After investigations I now know that the unit of `SIZE' is indeed Typographical Points. This *must* be mentioned right there, since it otherwise cont

Re: absolute font size issues

2014-11-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> \markup { \abs-fontsize #200 { > \abs-baseline-skip #250 { > \column { A A } } } } An alternative to `\abs-baseline-skip' is a scaling function `pt-to-staff-space', see below. While being more versatile, it's probably more awkward to use... Werner

Re: absolute font size issues

2014-11-11 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 12.11.2014 um 07:42 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: [...] Given that responses on this list are often within minutes, and these my questions stayed unanswered I guess that no-one has thought about this, which actually surprises me. Well, I was about to answer, but somehow ... I defined some \abs-