Cross staff stems for beamed notes

2018-04-25 Thread Helge Kruse
I need to add cross staff stems and used the approach found in http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/snippets/staff-notation.html#staff-notation-cross-staff-stems Unfortunately this doesn't give the expected result for eighth notes. - If the stem points down, cross staff is not working -

Re: Do we have a "damp" symbol?

2018-04-25 Thread Karlin High
On 4/25/2018 9:55 PM, Shane Brandes wrote: Is this a tomayto vs. tomahto problem? Is there really a discrete difference? or is it just diiferent fonts making it look different? Dunno. Google found some MuseScore people discussing it back in 2014. Of

Re: Do we have a "damp" symbol?

2018-04-25 Thread Shane Brandes
Is this a tomayto vs. tomahto problem? Is there really a discrete difference? or is it just diiferent fonts making it look different? regards, Shane On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Malte Meyn wrote: > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 18:06 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: >>> >>> Where is

Re: Rehearsal mark font in \markup

2018-04-25 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Evan, At the risk of introducing more noise from me, you can set the font-family and font-size and so on and so forth of the RehearsalMark. So then you know what it is, instead of having to query it programmatically. Is that of any help? Andrew ___

Re: Rehearsal mark font in \markup

2018-04-25 Thread Evan Driscoll
On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 9:38 PM, Andrew Bernard wrote: > Is that what you are after? I'm not really clear what you want. A MWE > would always be good. > Your reply was actually helpful, because I went back to try to illustrate what I meant... and saw that it's

Re: Rehearsal mark font in \markup

2018-04-25 Thread Andrew Bernard
Pardon me! You did give an MWE. Apologies! Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Rehearsal mark font in \markup

2018-04-25 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Evan, Suggest looking in the NR. A mark can use markup. The simple example given: \mark \markup{ \box A1 } Is that what you are after? I'm not really clear what you want. A MWE would always be good. Andrew On 26 April 2018 at 12:15, Evan Driscoll wrote: > Suppose in a

Rehearsal mark font in \markup

2018-04-25 Thread Evan Driscoll
Suppose in a \markup block where I'm writing some text, I want to say "blah blah at rehearsal A" where "A" is formatted with the same font and style (maybe using the current font size? but I can deal with that probably) as it is in the score. How can I get that? For example, enhancing this MWE:

Schenkerian analysis diagram

2018-04-25 Thread Jérôme Plût
I tried to do a few analysis diagrams following the LinuxJournal example (quoted on the lilypond examples page): https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8364 (and also quite outdated, since it was written for Lilypond 2.6). I think I have a proof of concept (see attached file) for a version that is

Re: Typesetting tweak with percent repeat

2018-04-25 Thread Evan Driscoll
On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 5:49 PM, Aaron Hill wrote: > There is a simple workaround, however, which is to attach the articulation > to an empty chord before the percent repeat: > Brilliant! > The resulting alignment might not be to your taste, as the articulation >

Re: Typesetting tweak with percent repeat

2018-04-25 Thread Edward Neeman
... and rereading your post, Aaron, I see you explain exactly why adding the Articulation event doesn’t work. Sorry for the noise. --- Dr. Edward Neeman www.neemanpianoduo.com > On 26 Apr 2018, at 10:26 am, Edward Neeman wrote: > > Interesting that your first idea

Re: Lilypond slow to start up on the Mac

2018-04-25 Thread Edward Neeman
+1 from me for very slow launch times with OS X using both 2.19 and 2.18 (about 2 mins). Though for me it only occurs for the first run after updating the OS. I assumed it has something to do with the fonts. Best, Edward --- Dr. Edward Neeman www.neemanpianoduo.com > On 25 Apr 2018, at 7:30

Re: Typesetting tweak with percent repeat

2018-04-25 Thread Edward Neeman
Interesting that your first idea doesn’t work as expected Aaron! I also wonder why. I would suggest a slight tweak of the workaround, using a multi measure rest to center the up bow: \version "2.18.2" makePercent = #(define-music-function (parser location note) (ly:music?) "Make a percent

Re: Typesetting tweak with percent repeat

2018-04-25 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2018-04-24 20:19, Evan Driscoll wrote: For example, in the document below, I'd like an upbow over the percent in measure 2. How can I get that? The \upbow on the s1 that's in there now doesn't work. Thanks, Evan From what I can tell, there are at least two issues you are fighting.

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 25.04.2018 23:29, Noeck wrote: c'8-1--(~\markup "what-ever-remark" c') The markup needs a hyphen. I'd suggest to drop the \markup here to make it simpler. In my personal rule set, the ~ goes last – but there is probably no reason for that … One thing does have to go last, and that is

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 25.04.2018 12:48, foxfanfare wrote: But for instance in the Available Music Functions section, sometimes there is a small code exemple, sometime there isn't (almost evry time). I found personnaly clearer

Re[2]: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread Trevor
Robert Hickman wrote 25/04/2018 19:16:41 It is quite apparent that this wasn't written for random access and I feel that websites are much more effective and user friendly if they are. Whether it is apparent to you or not I can tell you categorically as one of the original authors what the

"Random" access (was: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations)

2018-04-25 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
> -- Forwarded message -- > From: Carl Sorensen > To: Robert Hickman , David Kastrup > Cc: Karlin High , Kieren MacMillan < kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca>, Evan Driscoll ,

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread Karlin High
On 4/25/2018 5:03 PM, Robert Hickman wrote: Just including a note at the top of all of the pages "this is the learning manual and is intended to be read start to finish" would help clarify that. -- Karlin

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread Robert Hickman
"As we try to make clear, the Learning Manual is intentionally not built for random access. The Notation Reference *is* built for random access." However it frequently shows up in google search results out of order and the way it is written mean that these pages often don't make sense. Just

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread Thomas Morley
2018-04-25 23:23 GMT+02:00 Carl Sorensen : > > > On 4/25/18, 2:34 PM, "David Kastrup" wrote: > > So I see it more as a documentation challenge than a design failure. > > > I agree, and I think we can improve the documentation. > > Carl > > startSlur,

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread Noeck
Hi Harm, IMHO that's a good explanation and according to the recurring questions on this list, sth. that would be helpful. I like the "attached to the note" much better than "not enclosed in" because the negative wording "not enclosed in" only tells what you _should not_ do and not what you

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 4/25/18, 2:34 PM, "David Kastrup" wrote: So I see it more as a documentation challenge than a design failure. I agree, and I think we can improve the documentation. Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen writes: > On 4/25/18, 1:46 PM, "Thomas Morley" wrote: > > > There is a point that I was trying to make with these changes, > > without jumping right out and saying it (because I couldn’t find > > a good place to jump

Re: Make TOC entries available to LaTeX

2018-04-25 Thread Thomas Morley
2018-04-25 16:00 GMT+02:00 Urs Liska : > Hi Harm > > > Am 19.04.2018 um 23:23 schrieb Thomas Morley: > > 2018-04-19 16:19 GMT+02:00 Urs Liska : > > Hi all, > > I'm preparing an automated edition process using LuaLaTeX, Pandoc and > LilyPond. > > After

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 4/25/18, 1:46 PM, "Thomas Morley" wrote: > There is a point that I was trying to make with these changes, without jumping right out and saying it (because I couldn’t find a good place to jump out and say it). In LilyPond, *ALL* extra things that apply

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > Hi Carl, > > 2018-04-25 13:26 GMT+02:00 Carl Sorensen : >> Evan, >> >> Thanks for your feedback. Feedback from new users is important for >> improving the Learning Manual. > > Indeed. > >> There is a point that I was trying

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > Sometimes I think using "(" and ")" to indicate slurs leads to > misunderstandings, they are read as a sort of brackets (they are not) > Ofcourse it's conveniant, but I wonder, if doing like below would lead > to the same misinterpretation: > >

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread Thomas Morley
2018-04-25 21:32 GMT+02:00 Carl Sorensen : > > > > > From: Evan Driscoll > Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 12:42 PM > To: Carl Sorensen > Cc: Robert Hickman , Kieren MacMillan > ,

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread Thomas Morley
Hi Carl, 2018-04-25 13:26 GMT+02:00 Carl Sorensen : > Evan, > > Thanks for your feedback. Feedback from new users is important for improving > the Learning Manual. Indeed. > There is a point that I was trying to make with these changes, without > jumping right out and

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread Carl Sorensen
From: Evan Driscoll Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 12:42 PM To: Carl Sorensen Cc: Robert Hickman , Kieren MacMillan , David Kastrup , Lilypond-User Mailing List

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread Carl Sorensen
\On 4/25/18, 12:16 PM, "Robert Hickman" wrote: I assume that the project still has contributors who work on the documentation? It dosn't really matter if they are the original authors of it. I'm not saying that it is terible, but making some points

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread Evan Driscoll
On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 6:26 AM, Carl Sorensen wrote: > Thanks for your feedback. Feedback from new users is important for > improving the Learning Manual. > Just so we're on the same page, I've been an occasional LilyPond user for many many years now; I was just saying

Re: Do we have a "damp" symbol?

2018-04-25 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 25.04.2018 um 18:06 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Where is the difference to a coda sign? I believe the preferred symbol is different from a coda sign (more circular, and less calligraphic), but in recent years [with computer engraving] people have simply substituted the coda sign. Elaine

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 4/25/18, 12:16 PM, "Robert Hickman" wrote: It is quite apparent that this wasn't written for random access and I feel that websites are much more effective and user friendly if they are. As we try to make clear, the Learning Manual is intentionally not

Re: Do we have a "damp" symbol?

2018-04-25 Thread Trevor Bača
Hi Pierre (and Karim, and David), Thanks very much: these are great. Exactly what I was looking for! Trevor. On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Karim Haddad wrote: > This is great ! > Thanx again Pierre for your tips and valuable help ! > > best > K > > On Wed, Apr 25,

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread Robert Hickman
It is quite apparent that this wasn't written for random access and I feel that websites are much more effective and user friendly if they are. "It's easy to wave your hands and say "not good, I want you all to redo it better" but that will not result in changes getting done," I assume that the

Re: Do we have a "damp" symbol?

2018-04-25 Thread Karim Haddad
This is great ! Thanx again Pierre for your tips and valuable help ! best K On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 07:21:37PM +0200, Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote: > Yes Karim, or even : > > % > \version "2.19.81" > > \markup > %% do not use 'fontsize > \scale #'(5 . 5) > { > \combine \bold "O" >

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread David Kastrup
Robert Hickman writes: > On 25 April 2018 at 18:44, Karlin High wrote: >> On 4/25/2018 12:38 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: >>> >>> Hi Robert, >>> Many pages duplicate content or say 'please read page xyz first' because I recognise that people

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread Robert Hickman
On 25 April 2018 at 18:44, Karlin High wrote: > On 4/25/2018 12:38 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: >> >> Hi Robert, >> >>> Many pages duplicate content or say 'please read page xyz first' >>> because I recognise that people will enter the site from any page >>> and I cannot make

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread Karlin High
On 4/25/2018 12:38 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Robert, Many pages duplicate content or say 'please read page xyz first' because I recognise that people will enter the site from any page and I cannot make any assumptions about what they already know. This is a great suggestion. Perhaps you

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Robert, > Many pages duplicate content or say 'please read page xyz first' > because I recognise that people will enter the site from any page > and I cannot make any assumptions about what they already know. This is a great suggestion. Perhaps you can contribute such links as you continue

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread Robert Hickman
" In the context of the Learning Manual, pitches and durations are introduced in section 1.2.1. It seems like it would be unfriendly to clutter that section with a discussion about modifications coming after the note. " The problem with this attitude is that it is a website and people will enter

Re: Do we have a "damp" symbol?

2018-04-25 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Yes Karim, or even : % \version "2.19.81" \markup %% do not use 'fontsize \scale #'(5 . 5) { \combine \bold "O" \path #0.2 #'((moveto -.4 .8)(lineto 2.2 .8) (closepath) (moveto .9 -.5)(lineto .9 2.1)) } However, AFAIK, harpists also use the pedal sign (\musicglyph

Re: Do we have a "damp" symbol?

2018-04-25 Thread Karim Haddad
For what it's worth i have a solution that i used, because like you i don't want to use the coda sign. So i used a markup : damp = \markup{ \center-column { {\override #'(thickness . 1.8) \combine \draw-line #'(-1.5 . 0) \combine \draw-line #'(0 . -1.5) \combine \draw-line #'(0 .

Re: Do we have a "damp" symbol?

2018-04-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David (and Trevor), > Where is the difference to a coda sign? I believe the preferred symbol is different from a coda sign (more circular, and less calligraphic), but in recent years [with computer engraving] people have simply substituted the coda sign. Hope that helps, Kieren.

Re: Do we have a "damp" symbol?

2018-04-25 Thread David Kastrup
Trevor Bača writes: > Hi, > > Is there a "damp string(s)" symbol somewhere in Feta (or elsewhere), as > used in harp writing: > > > > > (Image from > http://sites.siba.fi/web/harpnotation/manual/damping-techniques/damp-all-strings > .) Where is the difference to a coda

Do we have a "damp" symbol?

2018-04-25 Thread Trevor Bača
Hi, Is there a "damp string(s)" symbol somewhere in Feta (or elsewhere), as used in harp writing: (Image from http://sites.siba.fi/web/harpnotation/manual/damping-techniques/damp-all-strings .) Trevor. -- Trevor Bača www.trevorbaca.com soundcloud.com/trevorbaca

Re: How can I adjust length-fraction of tremolo on beamed stem?

2018-04-25 Thread takumi ikeda
Thank you for your reply. But I'd like to adjust "length-fraction", the intervals between tremolo-beams. not Y-offset. Takumi 2018-04-25 17:41 GMT+09:00 Thomas Morley : > 2018-04-25 8:05 GMT+02:00 takumi ikeda : >> \version "2.19.61" >> >> { >>

Re: Make TOC entries available to LaTeX

2018-04-25 Thread Urs Liska
Hi Harm Am 19.04.2018 um 23:23 schrieb Thomas Morley: 2018-04-19 16:19 GMT+02:00 Urs Liska : Hi all, I'm preparing an automated edition process using LuaLaTeX, Pandoc and LilyPond. After some experimentation I have come to the conclusion that I'll have to insert the

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread Evan Driscoll
Sorry to jump in here as someone who just (re-)signed up for the list, but I actually find +Note that @code{[} and @code{]} do not enclose the notes to be +slurred. potentially confusing. I would say something like either "Note that the first note of the slur appears before the opening @code{(}"

Typesetting tweak with percent repeat

2018-04-25 Thread Evan Driscoll
Suppose I have a percent repeat. I'd like to place a bowing mark above it. (I realize this isn't strictly "correct" perhaps.) Is there a way to do that? My guess to the most promising approach is to use the \makePercent isolated repeat from

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread Carl Sorensen
Evan, Thanks for your feedback. Feedback from new users is important for improving the Learning Manual. From: Evan Driscoll Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 11:40 PM To: Carl Sorensen Cc: Robert Hickman , Kieren MacMillan

Re: spacer rest *

2018-04-25 Thread Gianmaria Lari
Thank to everybody for the answers, now it's clear the difference between the two writing. Regarding the specific example Malte explanation was especially useful. Thank you, g. On 25 April 2018 at 11:51, Robert Schmaus wrote: > Picture wooden building blocks which some

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread foxfanfare
David Kastrup wrote > That's actually the killer reason. There are a few places where > documentation strings get drawn into the manual, and those documentation > strings can be used more and less tersely. They should be verbose > enough to be useful which may include examples (examples take up

Re: lyluatex can't execute Lilypond

2018-04-25 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
Hi David, On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 12:21 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > > > I suspect /path/to/lily/wrapper/lilypond . Can you show the actual > input? It may contain special characters (such as spaces) causing > problems. > > After noticing that the script is referring to my system

Re: lyluatex can't execute Lilypond

2018-04-25 Thread David Kastrup
"N. Andrew Walsh" writes: > Hi List, > > Urs and I are having trouble figuring out why my version of lyluatex isn't > working. I have the following MWE: > > \documentclass{scrartcl} > \usepackage[program=/path/to/lily/wrapper/lilypond]{lyluatex} > \begin{document} >

Re: lyluatex can't execute Lilypond

2018-04-25 Thread Urs Liska
Hi Andrew, please add information about the actual LaTeX and Linux distributions you use. As said I can imagine this makes a difference. Urs Am 25.04.2018 um 12:02 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh: Hi List, Urs and I are having trouble figuring out why my version of lyluatex isn't working. I have

lyluatex can't execute Lilypond

2018-04-25 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
Hi List, Urs and I are having trouble figuring out why my version of lyluatex isn't working. I have the following MWE: \documentclass{scrartcl} \usepackage[program=/path/to/lily/wrapper/lilypond]{lyluatex} \begin{document} \begin{lilypond} c' \end{lilypond} \end{document} but the command

Re: spacer rest *

2018-04-25 Thread Robert Schmaus
Picture wooden building blocks which some of us still might remember from their childhood. Every block has a single slot to attach stuff to. s8 8 8 are 3 distinct cubes of edge length 1. s8*3 is a single block measuring 1x1x3. Cheers, Robert > On 25 Apr 2018, at 10:09, Gianmaria Lari

Re: spacer rest *

2018-04-25 Thread David Kastrup
Gianmaria Lari writes: > I don't understand the difference between s8 8 8 and s8*3. s8 8 8 are three events with a duration of 8, s8*3 is a single event with a duration of 8*3 . The duration 8*3 _looks_ like a duration of 8 (not relevant for s but for example if you

Re: Lilypond slow to start up on the Mac

2018-04-25 Thread David Kastrup
Andrew Bernard writes: > Hi Tim, > > The development versions are very stable. I hammer them all day with > massively complex scores, and no problems arise. The term 'unstable' is a > self deprecating conventional trope of modesty used in the open source > world. No,

Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations

2018-04-25 Thread David Kastrup
Simon Albrecht writes: > On 24.04.2018 22:02, foxfanfare wrote: >> I missed >> more exemples in the huge "Internal Manual"! > > I don’t think any will be added, for two reasons: > The technical reason is that the Internals Reference is auto-generated > from the program

Re: spacer rest *

2018-04-25 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 25.04.2018 um 10:09 schrieb Gianmaria Lari: dyn = { s8 \> 8 8 8 \!} This places \> at the start of the first s8 and the \! at the start of the fourth s8, so it comes after three eighths. dyn = { s8 \> 8*3 \!} This places \> at the start of the first s8 and the \! at the

Re: How can I adjust length-fraction of tremolo on beamed stem?

2018-04-25 Thread Thomas Morley
2018-04-25 8:05 GMT+02:00 takumi ikeda : > \version "2.19.61" > > { > \override Stem.length = #10 > \override StemTremolo.beam-thickness = #0.3 > \override StemTremolo.slope = #0.2 > \override StemTremolo.beam-width = #1.5 > \override StemTremolo.extra-offset = #'(0 .

Re: spacer rest *

2018-04-25 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2018-04-25 01:09, Gianmaria Lari wrote: I don't understand the difference between s8 8 8 and s8*3. In the former, you are specifying three spacers, each an eighth note in duration. In the latter, you are specifying a single spacer, with a duration of three eighth notes. -- Aaron Hill

spacer rest *

2018-04-25 Thread Gianmaria Lari
I don't understand the difference between s8 8 8 and s8*3. For example have a look to the following code that engrave two scores: \version "2.19.81" rh = \fixed c'{g8 8 8 8} dyn = { s8 \> 8 8 8 \!} { << \rh \new Dynamics \dyn >> } dyn = { s8 \> 8*3 \!} { << \rh \new Dynamics \dyn >> } These

How can I adjust length-fraction of tremolo on beamed stem?

2018-04-25 Thread takumi ikeda
\version "2.19.61" { \override Stem.length = #10 \override StemTremolo.beam-thickness = #0.3 \override StemTremolo.slope = #0.2 \override StemTremolo.beam-width = #1.5 \override StemTremolo.extra-offset = #'(0 . 1) \override StemTremolo.length-fraction = #0.7 %% not works on the