crescendo hairpin terminates too early?

2021-02-04 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
Hi, https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-attached-to-notes.en.html#dynamics says: "A hairpin that is terminated with \! will end at the right edge of the note that has the \! assigned to it." But if I try this: { c'4\< d' e' f' | g1\! } the hairpin ends

Re: crescendo hairpin terminates too early?

2021-02-04 Thread Mark Knoop
At 08:29 on 04 Feb 2021, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: Hi, https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-attached-to-notes.en.html#dynamics says: "A hairpin that is terminated with \! will end at the right edge of the note that has the \! assigned to it." But if I try thi

Re: crescendo hairpin terminates too early?

2021-02-04 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021, Mark Knoop wrote: At 08:29 on 04 Feb 2021, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: { c'4\< d' e' f' | g1\! } the hairpin ends way too early, before the barline. If you look a little further down the page you'll find "Setting hairpin behavior at bar lines". OK. I see. Still stra

headers when using \include

2021-02-04 Thread Calvin Ransom
I am attempting to place two separate scores into one file using \include, my current issue is that the two scores have different titles and instruments but currently it is only showing one of the titles and one of the instrument names, is there a way I can prevent it from doing that? Cheers, Calv

manual alternative endings

2021-02-04 Thread Paul Scott
The code below gives me what I want but gives me a warning. warning: already have a volta spanner, ending that one prematurely I'm thinking I need to add (volta #f) to the 2nd repeatCommands string but If so my scheme is weak enough that I don't know how to add it. TIA for any help with this,

Re: headers when using \include

2021-02-04 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 at 10:12, Calvin Ransom wrote: > > I am attempting to place two separate scores into one file using \include, my current issue is that the two scores have different titles and instruments but currently it is only showing one of the titles and one of the instrument names, is ther

Re: manual alternative endings

2021-02-04 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2021-02-04 1:13 am, Paul Scott wrote: The code below gives me what I want but gives me a warning. warning: already have a volta spanner, ending that one prematurely I'm thinking I need to add (volta #f) to the 2nd repeatCommands string but If so my scheme is weak enough that I don't know how

Re: crescendo hairpin terminates too early?

2021-02-04 Thread Mark Knoop
At 08:53 on 04 Feb 2021, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: On Thu, 4 Feb 2021, Mark Knoop wrote: At 08:29 on 04 Feb 2021, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: { c'4\< d' e' f' | g1\! } the hairpin ends way too early, before the barline. If you look a little further down the page you'll find "Setting hairpin

Re: crescendo hairpin terminates too early?

2021-02-04 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021, Mark Knoop wrote: Which image? The paragraph from which you quoted ends with: "A hairpin ending on a downbeat will stop at the preceding bar line." You're right. I have been spending way too many hours behind my screen during COVID-19 lockdown. Need to get some fresh ai

Re: headers when using \include

2021-02-04 Thread David Wright
On Thu 04 Feb 2021 at 11:00:39 (+0100), Xavier Scheuer wrote: > On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 at 10:12, Calvin Ransom wrote: > > > > I am attempting to place two separate scores into one file using > \include, my current issue is that the two scores have different titles and > instruments but currently it is

Custom music notation?

2021-02-04 Thread Pashkuli Keyboard
Hello, *Lilypond* users and developers. I have designed a music notation system called Plain Music Notation or *PMN* for short. *But unfortunately I am not a software developer at all.* You can find more info about it here: https://github.com/Pashkuli-Design/PMN http://musicnotation.org/wiki/not

Re: Custom music notation?

2021-02-04 Thread Carl Sorensen
This could be done relatively easily with lilypond. The different note heads for different steps in the chromatic scale is already used, but will need some modification for you. Changing the staff position from a note-based position to an ocatave-based position is slightly more work, but doable

Re: Custom music notation?

2021-02-04 Thread Karlin High
On 2/4/2021 8:33 AM, Pashkuli Keyboard wrote: If Lilypond devs can give some advices or instruction on how I can modify the code to be able to get *PMN* in some early working pre-alpha stage, that would be fantastic! LilyPond has been customized before to produce alternative notation. Paul Mo

Re: Custom music notation?

2021-02-04 Thread Karlin High
On 2/4/2021 9:36 AM, Carl Sorensen wrote: A second disadvantage of this notation, I'm forming the opinion that conventional notation is like the QWERTY keyboard layout. There are different ideas out there for improving it, but it would need like a 10X improvement to build any momentum towards

Override BeamedStemTremolo with regular StemTremolo

2021-02-04 Thread Dimitris Marinakis
I understand the reason behind the aesthetic choice of using a different type of tremolostem for beamed notes but the current implementation IMO doesn't work as good as the regular StemTremolo. • Slope is a simple rotation and not a real slope. • You can't tweak the space (length-fraction) of trem

Re: manual alternative endings

2021-02-04 Thread Paul Scott
On 2/4/21 2:59 AM, Aaron Hill wrote: On 2021-02-04 1:13 am, Paul Scott wrote: The code below gives me what I want but gives me a warning. warning: already have a volta spanner, ending that one prematurely I'm thinking I need to add (volta #f) to the 2nd repeatCommands string but If so my sch

Fwd: Re: Custom music notation?

2021-02-04 Thread Karlin High
Pashkuli Keyboard: Use your email client's "Reply All" option so messages go to all participants and the email list, instead of just the most recent poster. Forwarded Message Subject:Re: Custom music notation? Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 15:48:17 + From: Pashkuli Ke

Re: Re: Custom music notation?

2021-02-04 Thread Pashkuli Keyboard
Thanks, *Karlin* (my bad) Hello, *Carl *and* Karlin* Yes, I agree with your remarks regarding "spacing" of pitch, but let me point out that the standard notation also eliminates at least 42% of this by adding accidental symbols and 8va, 15ma amendments where needed. The purpose of PMN is to repr

Re: Spannerize glyphs, markups etc. ?

2021-02-04 Thread Dimitris Marinakis
Thank you. This certainly works for simple scenarios. Here is my incomplete take. I just need to find out how to automatically change the number that repeats the stencil based on the spanner length. Sorry if this doesn't make sense. I just started learning bit by bit how to make things work in Sch

Re: Override BeamedStemTremolo with regular StemTremolo

2021-02-04 Thread Pashkuli Keyboard
Hi, Dimitris What do you mean by tremolostem. I have not shown example with tremolo. Also, what slope rotation, what real slope? What space and length fraction, default StemTremolo, not sure what is that 'default'. The stems for the notes are slightly different - actually quite different - especial

Re: Spannerize glyphs, markups etc. ?

2021-02-04 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Dimitris, On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 10:36 AM Dimitris Marinakis wrote: > > Thank you. This certainly works for simple scenarios. > > Here is my incomplete take. I just need to find out how to automatically > change the number that repeats the stencil based on the spanner length. > Sorry if this

Re: Spannerize glyphs, markups etc. ?

2021-02-04 Thread Dimitris Marinakis
Hi David, Thank you very much! The problem you described is innate with spanners such as trills etc. All software I've encountered including Lilypond work exactly as you described. Perhaps the calculation could extend the overall Spanner length to allow for the last appearance of the glyph if the

Re: Override BeamedStemTremolo with regular StemTremolo

2021-02-04 Thread Dimitris Marinakis
Hi Pashkuli Maybe you are confused with how the mailing list works. (Sorry if my assumption is wrong). This thread isn't related to your thread. It's a separate thread I started. Because you are subscribed to the mailing list you receive all the e-mails people sent to the mailing-list. Dimitris

lilypond-book.py can hang on Windows 10; I know why; I need help to fix it

2021-02-04 Thread Daniel Connors
A simple fix is to add these two lines of code to book_latex.py just before the temporary file is created, just after line 205: if(sys.platform == 'win32'): tempfile.tempdir = 'C:/Temp' If lilypond-book.py is running on a Windows platform, create the temporary file in C:/Temp. Then we do

lilypond-book.py can hang on Windows 10; I know why; I need help to fix it

2021-02-04 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Back on January 12, 2021, I wrote to this forum about a problem I was having running the example from https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/usage/an-example-of-a-musicological-document for embeddi

Re: lilypond-book.py can hang on Windows 10; I know why; I need help to fix it

2021-02-04 Thread David Nalesnik
Dan, On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 1:47 PM Daniel Connors wrote: > > A simple fix is to add these two lines of code to book_latex.py just before > the temporary file is created, just after line 205: > > if(sys.platform == 'win32'): > tempfile.tempdir = 'C:/Temp' > > If lilypond-book.py is runni

Re: Override BeamedStemTremolo with regular StemTremolo

2021-02-04 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Do., 4. Feb. 2021 um 17:08 Uhr schrieb Dimitris Marinakis : > > I understand the reason behind the aesthetic choice of using a different type > of tremolostem for beamed notes but the current implementation IMO doesn't > work as good as the regular StemTremolo. > > • Slope is a simple rotation

Re: Custom music notation?

2021-02-04 Thread ebenezer
"I'm forming the opinion that conventional notation is like the QWERTY keyboard layout." Exactly. IMO a new system doesn't even need to be better, just more appealing to the masses. If someone came up with a notation system that enabled teenage girls to be able to sing a song just by simply l

Re: Custom music notation?

2021-02-04 Thread Karlin High
On 2/4/2021 4:36 PM, ebenezer wrote: If someone came up with a notation system that enabled teenage girls to be able to sing a song just by simply looking at it, well, within a decade or 2 it's use would be global. Where I live, that notation system is the Aiken shape notes seen here:

Re: Custom music notation?

2021-02-04 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 2/4/21, 3:50 PM, "lilypond-user on behalf of Karlin High" wrote: On 2/4/2021 4:36 PM, ebenezer wrote: > If someone came up with a notation system that enabled teenage girls to > be able to sing a song just by simply looking at it, well, within a > decade or 2 it's use wou

Re: Custom music notation?

2021-02-04 Thread Pashkuli Keyboard
Indeed, that is why today people simply use MIDI-rolls to make music. Yes, it takes HUGE space if you have to write 12 notes for absolute pitch (vertical distance), especially if you have to print it out. Shape notes are older than the "standard" notation. You will have a hard time reading 3 octav

Re: Custom music notation?

2021-02-04 Thread David Kastrup
Pashkuli Keyboard writes: > Indeed, that is why today people simply use MIDI-rolls to make music. > Yes, it takes HUGE space if you have to write 12 notes for absolute pitch > (vertical distance), especially if you have to print it out. > > Shape notes are older than the "standard" notation. Sha

Re: Custom music notation?

2021-02-04 Thread Pashkuli Keyboard
Maybe 18th century to the... Western world. At least 2000 years for other places around the world. Exercising an instrument is just learning to play. Chromatic is best matched with chromatic. Music is not only harmony "thirds" or natural major or minor. Have you heard about Kravtsov accordions: h

Re: Custom music notation?

2021-02-04 Thread David Kastrup
Pashkuli Keyboard writes: > Maybe 18th century to the... Western world. At least 2000 years for > other places around the world. Shape music? Hardly so. If you choose your own meanings for well-established terms, communication does not happen. > Exercising an instrument is just learning to pl

Re: Custom music notation?

2021-02-04 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > There are other uniform chromatic systems, like the related 2-row based > Jankó keyboard pianos, or the respective 6+6 or Bayreuther system for > accordions. It's "Beyreuther system", sorry for the typo (it's named after Johannes Beyreuther rather than the town Bayreuth).

lilypond-book.py can hang on Windows 10; I know why; I need help to fix it

2021-02-04 Thread Daniel Connors
Jean, I like your solution of creating the tmpfile in the current directory. Thank you for your suggestion for using LyLuaTeX. Dan

Re: Using circles in \tabFullNotation

2021-02-04 Thread Kuredant
On 1/31/2021 10:41 PM, Jean Abou Samra wrote: Sorry, this line:     \override Stem.Y-extent = #grob::always-Y-extent-from-stencil should have been commented out. Also, I now believe that the behavior of X-offset here is a bug: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2021-01/msg00014.h

Re: Using circles in \tabFullNotation

2021-02-04 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 05/02/2021 à 06:15, Kuredant a écrit : On 1/31/2021 10:41 PM, Jean Abou Samra wrote: Sorry, this line:     \override Stem.Y-extent = #grob::always-Y-extent-from-stencil should have been commented out. Also, I now believe that the behavior of X-offset here is a bug: https://lists.gnu.org