Re: Consecutive trills

2022-04-29 Thread Hans Åberg
This is interesting. When transcribing Balkan music, I found that the musicians often end the trill in a timed manner, like suggested by this notation. Of course, ornaments are up to the musician to decide, but it helps a consistent result. > On 29 Apr 2022, at 22:02, Kira Garvie wrote: > >

Re: Consecutive trills

2022-04-29 Thread Kira Garvie
It is true that Bach used the signs interchangeably, but if a trill terminates before the note itself terminates in his music, it indicates to stop trilling at that point and continue holding the note. At least that’s how we interpret his organ music notations! On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 3:54 PM

RE: Consecutive trills

2022-04-29 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Hans, Without getting into detail, Arnold Dolmetsch contends that "They (the various indications of a trillo) have no particular shade of meaning, being only the consequence of his (Bach's) lack of system." The Interpretation of the Music of the 17th and 18th Centuries, p. 169. Mark

Re: Consecutive trills

2022-04-29 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 29 Apr 2022, at 19:06, Kieren MacMillan > wrote: > >>> As far as I know that's not a notation rule, but I agree that it makes more >>> sense to use the trill + wavy line for tied notes. >> I haven't seen "tr" plus chevron on a single untied note > > When it’s a chain of trills — some

Re: Very large score (for benchmarking purposes)

2022-04-29 Thread Jonas Hahnfeld via LilyPond user discussion
On Wed, 2022-04-20 at 01:19 +0200, Jean Abou Samra wrote: > Hi there, > > By any chance, would anybody have a very large score to hand (say, > something taking more than two minutes to compile at least), preferably > running under current versions, or under not too old versions? In > particular,

Re: Consecutive trills

2022-04-29 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, >> As far as I know that's not a notation rule, but I agree that it makes more >> sense to use the trill + wavy line for tied notes. > I haven't seen "tr" plus chevron on a single untied note When it’s a chain of trills — some tied, others single — I find the consistency [of using the

Re: Consecutive trills

2022-04-29 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 29 Apr 2022, at 16:31, Martín Rincón Botero > wrote: > > Thanks Hans! > > As far as I know that's not a notation rule, but I agree that it makes more > sense to use the trill + wavy line for tied notes. I haven't seen "tr" plus chevron on a single untied note, though the Harvard

Re: Consecutive trills

2022-04-29 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 29/04/2022 à 16:33, Martín Rincón Botero a écrit : Wow, one of those historical bugs. Ay! In a volunteer project like LilyPond, there are no rules for the time before a bug gets fixed. To a good extent, this time follows a memoryless law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorylessness In

Re: Very large score (for benchmarking purposes)

2022-04-29 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Thanks a lot to all those who replied, including Timothy Lanfear, who replied privately. I now have several scores that fit my purpose. Best, Jean

Re: Consecutive trills

2022-04-29 Thread Martín Rincón Botero
Or with \tweak. Thank you Jean! Wow, one of those historical bugs. Ay! On abr. 29 2022, at 4:31 pm, Jean Abou Samra wrote: > > > Le 29/04/2022 à 12:07, Martín Rincón Botero a écrit : > > Dear list, > > > > consider: > > > > \version "2.22.1" > > > > { > > d'2 > > \startTrillSpan > > b2 > >

Re: Consecutive trills

2022-04-29 Thread Martín Rincón Botero
Thanks Hans! As far as I know that's not a notation rule, but I agree that it makes more sense to use the trill + wavy line for tied notes. Anyways, I found a solution with the property bound-details.right.padding of TrillSpanner. \version "2.22.1" { \override

Re: Consecutive trills

2022-04-29 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 29/04/2022 à 12:07, Martín Rincón Botero a écrit : Dear list, consider: \version "2.22.1" {   d'2     \startTrillSpan     b2     \startTrillSpan     b1\stopTrillSpan } Which produces: [image] How can I bring both trills to be vertically aligned? (Compare the example in the

Re: Consecutive trills

2022-04-29 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 29 Apr 2022, at 12:07, Martín Rincón Botero > wrote: > > consider: > > \version "2.22.1" > > { > d'2 > \startTrillSpan > b2 > \startTrillSpan > b1\stopTrillSpan > } You might use \trill in these cases, as the trill symbol "tr" by itself applies to the whole note it

Consecutive trills

2022-04-29 Thread Martín Rincón Botero
Dear list, consider: \version "2.22.1" { d'2 \startTrillSpan b2 \startTrillSpan b1\stopTrillSpan } Which produces: How can I bring both trills to be vertically aligned? (Compare the example in the documentation which automatically engraves a similar situation correctly:

Re: Very large score (for benchmarking purposes)

2022-04-29 Thread Martin Straeten
have a look at https://github.com/nsceaux/nenuvar if it comes to really large and complex scores Am Mi., 20. Apr. 2022 um 01:20 Uhr schrieb Jean Abou Samra < j...@abou-samra.fr>: > Hi there, > > By any chance, would anybody have a very large score to hand (say, > something taking more than two