Hi Knute,

Speaking as a keyboard player (and lilypond novice) I would recommend
re-spelling the a flat as a g sharp! Sometimes, theory has to take a
backseat to readability. If the a natural is supposed to sound before the a
flat, I might write that one as a grace note to an arpeggiated dyad. That
said, I’ll let someone else give an answer that more specifically answers
what you’re hoping to achieve :)

Best,
Charlie

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 10:14 Knute Snortum <ksnor...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I've run into a situation where I need to engrave a chord that has the
> same note twice, but with different accidentals.  Like this (third
> chord):
>
> %%%
> \version "2.22.1"
> \language "english"
>
> \relative {
>   \key ef \major
>   \time 3/4
>   <bf' af' f'>8-.\arpeggio <bf af' bf>\arpeggio( <bf af'! a>\arpeggio
>     <bf af' bf>\arpeggio <bf af' c>\arpeggio <bf af' bf>\arpeggio) |
> }
> %%%
>
> I have a screenshot of the "default" way that LilyPond engraves this
> attached ("default" in the sense that I only placed a bang after the
> af).  Keyboard players: would you be able to sight read this quickly?
> Is there a different way that would be better, like the second
> attachment?
>
> To get that "y-stem" in LP, the snippets say to do this:
>
> %%%
> \version "2.22.1"
>
> fixA = {
>   \once \override Stem.length = #11
> }
>
> fixB = {
>   \once \override NoteHead.X-offset = #1.7
>   \once \override Stem.length = #7
>   \once \override Stem.rotation = #'(45 0 0)
>   \once \override Stem.extra-offset = #'(-0.1 . -0.2)
>   \once \override Flag.style = #'no-flag
>   \once \override Accidental.extra-offset = #'(4 . -.1)
> }
>
> \relative c' {
>   << { \fixA <b d!>8 } \\ { \voiceThree \fixB dis } >> s
> }
> %%%
>
> But my problem with that is I can't get the beam to "attach" to the
> notes in other voices.
>
> To sum up: a) what's the best way to engrave this kind of chord, and
> b) how do I do it?  I appreciate any feedback you can give me.
>
> --
> Knute Snortum
>

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