Dear all,
The attached score show a context collision.
In an orchestra score, I like to have the bar numbers at the top left
and bottom left of each system. Also, I like to gather all textual
informations at the top. For this, I defined 2 new contexts :TextLine
and BarNumberLine.
Problem: text sc
Thank you for your answer, very useful. I found the issue: in my .vimrc I have:
set foldenable
set foldmethod=syntax
Try that and you will see how long it takes.
I have no issue with C++ code, why would it be so much longer with
lilypond language?
Frédéric
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Some months ago, vim became very very slow to open a lilypond file
(4-5 seconds). This is clearly due to syntax highlighting because when
turn it off (:syntax off) the files are opened instantaneously. Also
when I add an opening {, it takes a long time (1 second or more) to
update the file which is
> I'd like to have some feedback from you. Which change in the Mutopia
> interface/decisions would make you start contributing or contributing more?
I wanted to contribute with the 4th symphony of Schumann which was
ready to be submitted. I had spent some time to adjust the page layout
for A4 pape
ornamentations are printed above slurs like in the following example:
\relative c'' { c4( c4\prall c4 c4) }
How can I have the \prall below the slur?
Regards,
Frédéric
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> I am using Vim and Fedora 19 and syntax highlighting is working. The change
> from vim73 to vim74 is something that should be reported to the lilypond
> packagers from Fedora.
I have done this already
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1005394). It has been
fixed in F18 and F20 but the
> Yeah, that ghostview command is from the vim config provided by the LIlypond
> team. I made sure to install gv, still nothing.
but by default, the .ps file is removed, isn't it?
Frédéric
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> I want to beam a chord in the treble staff to a chord in the bass staff and
> have the beam slanted between the two staves.
> For what should I search?
maybe:
https://github.com/stevage/Lilypond/blob/master/input/regression/beam-cross-staff.ly
Frédéric
>> I have looked at the examples. Have you also a set of good examples?
>> Of course, we do not want them to become bad...
>
> Do you mean ties that are currently engraved correctly by default, or
> example good-looking ties scanned from hand-engraved music?
I mean engraved correctly by default.
I have looked at the examples. Have you also a set of good examples?
Of course, we do not want them to become bad... But maybe the
regression tests just play that role?
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> Disagree. The default conversation language of LilyPond (all its
> command and function names) is English, the default note language is
> dutch. side-ees is perfectly consistent with LilyPond's defaults.
>> By the way I discover in 2.16 doc that the default language has moved
>> to English now?
That looks a good job you're doing here.
> I want to rename the right-hand key labeled "four" to
> "side-ees" to make to naming more consistent
Could we have English names by default so that everybody can
understand? I learnt the French names when I was young but switched to
English names for lil
> Well, for example the very first tempo indication should be left-aligned with
> the time signature.
> Lilypond does this [correctly] when the mark is in the Staff context
> containing the time signature, but doesn't when the mark is placed in a
> separate context.
OK, I have never considered
>> You can have a look at this score:
>> https://sites.google.com/a/polytechnique.org/bron/home/music/schumann---4th-symphony
>
> I see you're running into at least one of the same problems I am: the
> MetronomeMark is no longer aligning correctly. =(
I have not noticed that. Could you give a pr
> Did you do any performance testing, to see if compilation times are optimized
> this way? (I'm finding performance to be somewhat critical, especially when
> generating my large opera and musical scores.)
I did not checked another method to see if it was quicker to build.
You can see that the
> B.
> B1. Put the RehearsalMark and MetronomeMark objects in the main global
> variable (which also includes \time, \bar, etc.).
> B2. Create a MarksOnly custom context, which only has the engravers
> necessary to show RehearsalMark and MetronomeMarks, and let it "filter out"
> everythi
> I assume this is the thread you're referring to?
> http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/23-16-rest-td136941.html
That's right, Frédéric
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I propose to continue this discussion on lilypond-user list.
> Could it be that mistakes from earlier in a file would
> trigger barcheck mistakes later?
I think so. When I have an missing note in a bar, it pollutes the
score up to the end. Could attach your long example or is it too long?
Frédér
> I am trying to find a free solfware of music notation of Church Music as a
> substitution for Finale with which I cannot write a particular latin script
> extended unicode.
Why writing to bug-lilypond list? I reply to lilypond-user list.
The documentation is pretty good. You can start here:
htt
> yes it is - see http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=638
Thanks a lot. In fact, the trick is to use 2 times \language:
\language "italiano"
music = { music written in italiano }
\language "english"
\displayLilyMusic \music
Frédéric
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Is it possible that \displayLilyMusic outputs note names in a
different language?
I use to work with english notations because they are shorter but I am
using an existing file written with italiano.
Is it possible to change the note names from do re mi fa sol... to c d e f g?
I know I can try with
> Does anybody here know of software that could convert a .pdf into .ly?
> Mayber .pdf to .xml first, then to .ly?
> Or .pdf into .svg, or some sort of image file? I got some music from the
> IMSLP site, it needs to be rotated and cleaned up a bit.
free command line software:
- pdftk: http://www
>> I noticed that convert-ly does not converts auto beaming settings.
> Didn't convert-ly give you a message that said you needed to change it
> manually?
I have run conver-ly for many files so that I did not see the message!
It would have been nice to have a rule that added a comment in the
file
> LilyPond 2.13.54 is out; this is the third release candidate of the
> upcoming 2.14 stable release. All users are invited to experiment with
> this version. New features since 2.12.3 are listed in the “Changes”
> manual on the website section about Development.
> http://lilypond.org/development.h
> LilyPond 2.13.54 is out; this is the third release candidate of the
> upcoming 2.14 stable release. All users are invited to experiment with
> this version. New features since 2.12.3 are listed in the “Changes”
> manual on the website section about Development.
> http://lilypond.org/development.h
> LilyPond 2.13.54 is out; this is the third release candidate of the
> upcoming 2.14 stable release. All users are invited to experiment with
> this version. New features since 2.12.3 are listed in the “Changes”
> manual on the website section about Development.
> http://lilypond.org/development.h
> LilyPond 2.13.54 is out; this is the third release candidate of the
> upcoming 2.14 stable release.
I noticed that convert-ly does not converts auto beaming settings.
Kind regards,
Frédéric
Parsing...
indications.ly:6:9: error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression
beginning here
#
I would like to have a piano staff with one voice on the upper staff,
one voice on the lower staff and one voice automatically switching
between the two staffs.
Is it possible?
I tried this but without success:
\version "2.12.3"
\include "english.ly"
\score {
\new PianoStaff <<
> Please send feedback to lilypond-user
1. Thanks. Personnaly I mostly use "big HTML" because I need the
search possibilities in the full manual.
I think that "more about Notation" or "other formats for Notation"
would better describe the link that is currently called "details of
Notation" (same f
I am happy to publish the arrangment I made of the 4th symphony of
Schumann for clarinet choir.
Thanks to lilypond and this mailing list I was able to make a very
professional looking score (took me 18 months!!!).
I decided to publish the score with a creative commons licence
following the advice f
Hi folks,
I created a 21 page score with only one staff but at some place, an
ossia staff appears above the main staff. Everything was fine up to
the point where I needed to move the bar number engraver from the
score context to the staff context because I wanted the bar numbers to
be below text s
> According to
> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git
> it is.
I am a bit lost: should it be git.sv or git.savannah? Maybe this does
not matter.
Frédéric
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> The git repository at savannah has been updated, everyone
> should do a fresh clone.
I can only use the http server because I cannot get outside my
firewall using the git protocol.
I was using http://git.sv.gnu.org/r/lilypond.git before. I have tried
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/r/lilypond.git an
> Read the Learning Manual (section 4.4.3 explains how to do this)
Thanks a lot. I should have thought about that. Here is the corrected
code for the archive:
\version "2.12.2"
\layout {
\context { \Score \remove "Bar_number_engraver" }
\context { \Staff
\consists
In the following example I cannot get the bar number below the text
spanner. I tried to change the outside-staff-priority but this does
not work.
Regards,
Frédéric
\version "2.12.2"
\relative c' {
\override TextSpanner #'outside-staff-priority = #350
\override BarNumber #'outside-s
> Read this:
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Spanners#Spanners
Thank you! I found that adding the following line works:
\once \override DynamicTextSpanner #'springs-and-rods =
#ly:spanner::set-spacing-rods
I had guessed that I needed to use that property but from the
I the following snippet, I would like the second c to be shifted to
the right so that there is enough space for the text crescendo.
minimum-length works fine with hairpin crescendo but not with dynamic
text spanner.
What can I do?
Frédéric
\version "2.12.2"
\relative c' {
\once \set cresce
> Try to add this setting to your root ly file:
> #(debug-set! stack 10)
I tried that but saw no difference.
Frédéric
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Thanks to all of you:
1. did not know about LILYPOND_GC_YIELD! setting it too 100 changes
drasticaly the speed
2. still do not work with 2.12.3 but I reinstalled 2.12.2 and it
compiles fine in just 11 minutes!
So it seems there is a regression between 2.12.2 and 2.12.3 or 2.13.10.
How can we find
> No crash for me with 2.12.3 on OS X. Maybe you are running out of
> memory. Also one hour processing time seems like an awful lot, it took
> about 8 minutes here. Swapping to disk perhaps?
Thank you very much for having tried that on your machine. I am very
jalous of your success and the speed o
I am currenlty finishing the transcription of the 4th symphony of
Schumann for clarinet band (open licence by the way, soon on the
internet).
The score becomes larger and I am nearly at the end (must finish by
Sunday). However, I cannot build anymore the full conductor score
because now, for some r
> Since I normally program in lisp, I don't have any problems with
> nested delimiters. Are you suggesting that excess (at least to your
> eyes) braces are the problem or are you suggesting that the \stop is
> at the wrong level?
I was wondering why you add braces here: { a,8 [e'] g, [e'] f, [e']
> It would also help if the suggested change worked. In stead I still get:
Maybe it is because you use curly braces { } everywhere. Try to put
the \stop... inside the { } block and not outside. But why using so
many braces?
Frédéric
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> Because according to the documentation 'Text spanners' is precisely
> what I want. Not to mention the fact that I do want the text with
> dashes. I'm asking aboutthe extra staff, not the dashes. I'm looking
> to span many bars with 'let ring - - - -' just so you understand that
> your suggestion
> I'm looking for an example of text spanning that does not invoke an
> extra staff--- is there such a thing?
Then why do you want a "spanner"? Why not just a markup like c^"this
is my text without any dash"?
Frédéric
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> - estimated time: 30 minutes a week. (not counting normal reading
> of mailists)
Can you say how you do it in 30 minutes because each time I want to
update the NR after a small modification, its 15 to 20 minutes of
compilation...
Do you have a secret to make it quicker?
Frédéric
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> Didn't you already push it? It appeared in my git tree, but maybe
> I committed it locally but forgot about it?
>
> If it's already pushed, you'll need to make a new patch against
> master; go ahead and push that.
Hi Graham, I don't think I have write permissions in the git
repository so if it
> Sorry for the delay. Is the \bar "|." vital for this issue? If
> not, policy is to omit it.
Can be removed. Here is the patch without it.
Frédéric
0001-known-issue-in-NR-extra-cautionnary-accidentals-in-a.patch
Description: Binary data
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>> Could you prepare a patch adding the known behavior and this workaround to
>> the Known Issues in Displaying pitches in pitches.itely?
Here is a patch for the Notation Reference.
Frédéric
0001-known-issue-in-NR-extra-cautionnary-accidentals-in-a.patch
Description: Binary data
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> Again, the only solution is to get more people involved. Is it
> easy? No, but the only way to make it easier for new developers
> is for more people to join, learn stuff, then write about what
> they learned.
Hi, I would like to share my experience of starting lilypond
developer. I am already
> Could you prepare a patch adding the known behavior and this workaround to
> the Known Issues in Displaying pitches in pitches.itely?
OK, I will do that.
Frédéric
---
Frédéric Bron (frederic.b...@m4x.org)
Villa des Quatre Chemins,
>> BTW, I have found a strange behaviour of "modern" accidentals rule:
>> LilyPond considers volta alternatives as "previous" measure. Is this
>> correct? (Note the natural sign at the 2nd and 3rd alternatives, not
>> related to the previous _played_ measure.)
Yes, this is known behaviour. Here is
What do these errors mean?
programming error: Improbable offset for stencil: Infinity staff space
Setting to zero.
continuing, cross fingers
programming error: Improbable offset for stencil: NaN staff space
Setting to zero.
continuing, cross fingers
Frédéric
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What does this error mean? "programming error: Adding reverse rod"
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> I still must be blind, but haven't got the solution to work.
You did not look in detail at my proposition: replace s
s2\stopTextSpan by s2 s8 s8\stopTextSpan
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> Because your construct doesn't have two Voice constructs, only two
> expressions in the same Voice.
Works fine, thanks! But I still do not understand why it does not work
with only one voice (i.e. without \new Voice).
Frédéric
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It is funny. I was quite sure to have the solution but I do not
understand why what I propose does not work: you have to separate
notes and TextSpan in parallel music expressions.
Can somebody tell why this does not work?
Frédéric
\version "2.12.2"
\new Score <<
\new Staff \relative c' { \time
>> You have forgotten plenty of closing >>
>
> Some email clients will remove those, so this isn't necessarily
> a problem in his original file.
Should not be that as the file was attached, not included in the message.
Frédéric
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> Thank you for your help. I have altered your example to the attached below
> and then went and tried to apply it to my score and for a reason I cannot
> understand it won't compile.
> I've attached it too.
> If you have the time would you take a look a see what I'm doing wrong? The
> file wi
> I just checked Honegger's score for Jeanne d'Arc and tempo marks are above
> the top staff and then below for the strings. I've looked in the manual 2.12
> and snippets and I don't see a way to do this.
> I tried setting it for the top instrument in each group and that did not work.
The attac
> \alternative {
> c1
> << c1 { s2.. \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f)) } >>
> }
That works very fine. Thank you. Frédéric
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HI,
In the following snippet, I would like to have the rehearsal mark A on
the same line as the last volta bracket.
Any idea?
Frédéric
\relative c'' {
\repeat volta 2 { c1 }
\alternative { c c }
\mark \default c
}
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I would like neo-modern automatic accidentals at voice level.
Any idea how to?
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Hi,
A friend of mine is used to Finale. I try to convert him to lilypond.
What is the best way to convert a score from Finale to Lilypond?
Regards,
Frédéric
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>> I would like the default behaviour of 2/4 time, i.e. beams end at the
>> end of each beat.
>> However, if there are only 8th notes in the measure, I would like the
>> beam not to stop half measure as shown below.
>> Is it possible to achieve that with automatic rules? With 2.13 maybe?
>> but I d
> It's not so straightforward and there is no 100% perfect solution. However,
> several good approaches can be found on the LSR (http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/ ).
> Simply search for "dynamics" and the first snippet will be your man.
Very good. Thanks! Problem solved.
I should have thought at the LSR...
Hi,
In the following example, I define a new dynamic mark "p ausdrucksvoll".
I would like the "p" to be centered below the note and "ausdrucksvoll"
written to the right.
This works fine with \markup command but \markup command is not
printed on the same line as dynamics, in particular with hairpin
Hi,
I would like the default behaviour of 2/4 time, i.e. beams end at the
end of each beat.
However, if there are only 8th notes in the measure, I would like the
beam not to stop half measure as shown below.
Is it possible to achieve that with automatic rules? With 2.13 maybe?
but I did not see in
y time
signature. This second method must be used for those time signatures
and beam durations combinations for which beam ending rules are
pre-defined, unless these have all been reverted. There are predefined
rules for time signatures of 3/2, 3/4, 4/4, 2/4, 4/8, 4/16, 6/8, 9/8
and 12/8. "
Frédéric
In the following example, beams for 8 notes end at 1:4, 2:4, 3:4 and 4:4
but the only thing I can find in scm/auto-beam.scm about time 2/4 is:
((end 1 32 2 4) . ,(ly:make-moment 1 8))
((end 1 32 2 4) . ,(ly:make-moment 2 8))
((end 1 32 2 4) . ,(ly:make-moment 3 8))
How can I revert this ru
> I've read the notational guide for "\>" marking for decrescendo.
> To my understanding it is possible to mark it for a note.
> However, if I want to start it for a note in the bass clef, is this possible?
>
> I have the following in treble clef (in 2/4 time):
> 4. d,,16( dis16)
>
> And this in th
> Thanks, but the first two lines of your attachment came through as
>
> e cute: 'squareroot sign' 'copywrite sign'
> e grave: 'squareroot sign' 'copywrite sign'
>
> which I cannot use. There seems to be a transmission error here but
You still must enable UTF-8 mode in your editor.
Frédéri
> I am using the editor TeXShop with MacOSX, and so I cannot enter French
> characters via the editor.
>
> I did not find 3.3.3 of the reference manual useful. How/where does one
> find the hex code for e' for instance? Googling
> ISO/IEC did not shed any light on how to find the actual codes.
>
>
> Back then I created a cartoonish music-note character as a joke:
> http://valentin.villenave.info/lilypond/sketchbook/lilypond.png
> I still use it every now and then on the unofficial LilyPond community
> website, lilynet.net .
I like it very much. It would be nice to have it as a wallpaper!
F
Does anybody know any good free midi player for windows?
I mean so that intrument sounds are like the real instruments, not an
awful output.
Frédéric
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> You won't need to use Cygwin to run Lilypond anymore. Just get the windows
> version of the binary (the .exe file) here:
You can then use it from cygwin if you want.
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>>> If you move the Metronome_mark_engraver and Mark_engraver from the
>>> Score context to another context, you also need to move the
>>> Staff_collecting_engraver.
>>
>> I do not understand what it is for but it is clearly better: there is
>> no page break at each end of line.
>
> Both engravers
I tried to add a snippet but I get the following message : "No output
from lilypond".
Is it because the LSR works with 2.10.12? If so, why not switching to
current stable release 2.12.2?
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What does that mean?
programming error: Multi_measure_rest::get_rods (): I am not spanned!
continuing, cross fingers
programming error: Object is not a markup.
continuing, cross fingers
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Hi!
I tried to play with the contexts and engravers but cannot reach
exactly what I would like. Please look at the example given at the
bottom of this message.
I would like the tempo marks, rehearsal marks, bar numbers and text
spanners to be written above and below each StaffGroup. I came up with
> - it might be simpler to use skips (s) in the contextSpan voice
This would be more complicated as I just have to write \clarinet for
example whereas with spaces, I would have to calculate exactly where
each spanners goes (I am writing the 4th symphony of Schumann and the
conductor score is 100 pa
Exellent, it is exactly what I was hoping! I am going back to the
documentation to see if I can learn such magic things.
Thanks!
Frédéric
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Halas, for StaffGroup, the trick works but the spanners are all at the
top of the score, not above each StaffGroup.
Frédéric
\version "2.12.0"
stringendo = { \textSpannerUp \override StaffGroup.TextSpanner
#'(bound-details left text) = "Stringendo" }
\new Score <<
\new StaffGroup \with {
> dammit, i should think a bit more before answering things. TextSpanner has
> been moved to the score context, so we need to tell the override to use the
> TextSpanner objects in the Score context rather than the default.
Wonderful, you did it! Thank you very much. The more I use lily, the
more I
> remove the Text_spanner_engraver from the individual voice contexts and put
> it in the score context.
>
> something like this [n.b.: untested]:
>
> \new Score \with {
> \consists "Text_spanner_engraver"
> } <<
> \new Staff {
> \new Voice \with {
>
> I need to put verse numbers in every line of the hymns. There are 3 to 6
> verses.
>
>\set stanza = "1." does it for the first line, first verse.
>\set shortVocalName = "*1."does it for all the lines, first
> verse but puts it outside the staff.
You can shift the short nam
Is it possible to have a text spanner at the score level instead at
the Staff level?
I have a tempo indication "Stringendo - - - - -" which appears at
every line of the conductor score. This is too much. The original
score I am copying has printed it only above wind instruments, string
instruments
> \once \override Score.MetronomeMark #'outside-staff-priority = #1500
> \once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'outside-staff-priority = #1000
This time the trick do not work, why? I want the bar number to be
below a text spanner:
{ \override BarNumber #'outside-staff-priority = #1
\textSpannerU
> \once \override Score.MetronomeMark #'outside-staff-priority = #1500
> \once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'outside-staff-priority = #1000
Works very nice! Nice to hear that the user can change those preferences.
Frédéric
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> Attached is a sample file to show how the definition of spanners could work
> with my patch. I've also implemented two functions to give the text of the
> spanner directly in the postfix call.
When I look at your dynamic_spanners_postfix.pdf file, it seems to me
that on the second line (with the
> So, I took a look at the issue today and created a patch, which will now allow
> all dynamic spanner starters to be implemented as postfix-operators.
>
> The short (<15 quite trivial lines!) patch is up for review at:
> http://codereview.appspot.com/39047
>
> Basically, my question for now is whe
with 2.12.2 (windows):
{ \tempo "Ziemlich langsam" 4 = 66 R1 \mark \default R1 }
puts "A" above "Ziemlich langsam" but I would expect "A" to be below.
How can I reverse the default behaviour?
Frédéric
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The following code produces no glissando between 16th notes (2.12.2):
\include "english.ly"
\relative {
a'2\glissando b
a4\glissando b
a8\glissando b
a16\glissando b
}
Why?
In fact, I am not really interested in the glissando. I want a
straight line above two succes
Hello,
I am in charge of the question of (de)crescendo syntax issue in 2.12.2.
Here is what lilypond 2.12.2 currently does (in ly/spanners-init.ly):
- \< and \cr are equivalent: they start a crescendo event on the
previous note: #(make-span-event 'CrescendoEvent START)
- \> and \decr are equiv
> Actually, it's the other way round: \setTextCresc was documented (and meant)
> to apply only to the next crescendo, although in reality it was never reset
> and its effect continued for all following crescendi. This behavior was fixed
> in 2.12 and the effect now really only applies to the next c
do the full job as it just change the name of
the command, not the behaviour.
Frédéric Bron
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`conducteur.ps'...
Converting to `./conducteur.pdf'...
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Hi, using 2.12.1 on windows. Cannot make the chain work between pdf
(acrobat 9), point and click on a note and Vim.
I have set the EDITOR variable to the following but without succes:
C:\Softs\Vim\vim71\gvim.exe
C:\Softs\Vim\vim71\gvim.exe --remote
"C:\Softs\Vim\vim71\gvim.exe --remote"
When I cl
d
below the staff which is not very nice.
Any clue?
Frédéric Bron
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