Re: Parallel dynamics, markup, sponsor, etc.

2010-10-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> In 2.14 we should be able to do this (because we already can in the > development version) : > > % tieDynamic to the next dynamic mark, so that they are placed as a > % group > tieDynamic = #(make-music 'CrescendoEvent 'span-direction START > 'span-type 'text 'span-text "") > { > d'16 \< d''

Re: Parallel dynamics, markup, sponsor, etc.

2010-10-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>>> % tieDynamic to the next dynamic mark, so that they are placed as >>> % a group >>> tieDynamic = #(make-music 'CrescendoEvent 'span-direction START >>>'span-type 'text 'span-text "") >> >> Hmm, using 2.13.37, this has nasty side effects and doesn't yield >> the expected result.

Re: Switching staves with \times looks odd

2010-10-27 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Is it possible to force the "6" to appear above the beam as > intended? I can provide my .ly if you like. What about this: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=646 Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.

Re: LilyPond - TeX

2010-10-28 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> How does LilyPond create the ps/pdf output? It directly creates PS output which is then converted by ghostscript to PDF. >> Does it use TeX in any way as a backend? This has been the case a few years ago, however, it has been abandonded since we meanwhile need direct access to the fonts. Us

Re: (font-related) \caps \fontCaps and \smallCaps

2010-11-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Is it possible to check real small caps are available within the > font? The whole issue is VERY problematic. Today, many fonts already contain glyphs for small caps, however, lilypond isn't able to access them! Reason is that lilypond currently misses an interface to OpenType layout tables.

Re: (font-related) \caps \fontCaps and \smallCaps

2010-11-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> The `normal' one is `smcp', BTW. If you activate it, small letters in > the input are converted to small caps letters. If I say `small letters' I mean `lowercase letters'. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://list

Re: Printing barnumber 1 (oh no, not again)

2010-11-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Oh, I didn't know you guys had viola jokes too :-) My younger brother plays the viola in the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, and he has assured to me that there aren't any viola jokes at all: everything reported so far is simply the truth. Werner __

Re: Printing barnumber 1 (oh no, not again)

2010-11-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Why don't Horn players get a second date? (...) > > please, don't post such vulgar jokes here. In my opinion it's a > shame for the project. However, it's one of the best jokes I've ever heard recently, and it was unknown to me. And honestly, I've heard *a lot* of such jokes during boring s

Re: Printing barnumber 1 (oh no, not again)

2010-11-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Thanks to my conductor for that one. :-) Another one (my last one): In the middle of a soccer field there is a 500€ banknote. In the corners there are the concertmaster, a fast viola player, a slow viola player, and a double bass player. Who is first and gets the money? Answer: T

Re: string_identifier into string? Was: Creating arbitrary lines (or other postscript things)

2010-11-16 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> The \change command expects bare strings for arguments, so the > following, > > \change Staff = \foo > > isn't allowed. Hmm. Is this intentional? It looks like a bug... Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://list

Re: Lyric tie

2010-11-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Hello, I have been searching a lot and still can not find a solution > for my lyric ties. I obtain very misplaced ones and I know that a > font like DejaVuLGC installed should do the trick in my Ubuntu system. > My problem is: I have it installed, how do I force lilypond to use > that font? >

Re: Lyric tie

2010-11-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> you can change the font for a single character in \markup: > > \addlyrics { > Buon gior -- > \markup\concat{no \override #'(font-name . "DejaVu Sans Bold"){$(Q+X(B} > al} > mon -- do. > } > > (I tested with "DejaVu Sans Bold" because I'm not sure if the other > one exists on my comput

Re: Text fonts

2010-11-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I'm using a font all the time in LaTeX (Adobe's Frutiger) that I > select in my LaTeX documents with > > \renewcommand{\rmdefault}{pfr} > > Can I make this font selectable in Lilypond, and if so, how would I do > it? You must put your fonts (PFB, TTF, OTF, etc.) into a directory searched by F

Re: Lyric tie

2010-11-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Post-mortem, this is not difficult: Just use the --ps option of >> lilypond and search for `/uni203F' in the created PS file. > > Yes. That single character adds 2,855,700 bytes to the PS This is normal, since lilypond doesn't do font subsetting. Sazanami adds about 20MByte... > and 62,425

Re: Text fonts

2010-11-25 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> How and when does Lilypond/fontconfig scan for new fonts? At startup, lilypond adds its own font directories to the list of directories already controlled by fontconfig. This is even controllable by the end user with ly:font-config-add-directory and ly:font-config-add-font in case you want to

Re: issue classification was: Odd output

2010-12-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> FWIW, Finale 2010 *does* support this if you put the notes in > separate layers (voices), add a courtesy accidental to the natural > note, and fiddle with the Accidental Mover and Note Position gui > tools. It doesn't do the right thing by default, though. Image > attached. Well, *manually* yo

Re: text inside the staff close to the notes

2010-12-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> What is bizarre is that the ledger line is thicker than the normal > lines in the staff. This is not bizarre, this is correct musical typography. > Apparently this can be fixed but is this normal? Yes. Just check any manually engraved older scores. Werner __

Re: Increasing grace note separation

2011-01-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> I have recently had a discussion on the list about unstretchable >> grace note groups. The solution was to set GraceSpacing >> spacing-increment to zero. That is fine in all instances except for >> the one in the example. > > \relative c'' { > a {\squeeze \grace {\small \stemspace #'(0 . 0.

Re: why chords with notes of different duration is not supported?

2011-01-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
[About chords which contain notes of different durations, sometimes seen in string music.] > If the notes are all attached to the same voice why not allowing: > > << g,4 d'4 b'4>> ? If at all, the syntax would be e.g. and the chord's duration would be the maximum of the single note's dura

Re: why chords with notes of different duration is not supported?

2011-01-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> If at all, the syntax would be e.g. >> >> >> >> and the chord's duration would be the maximum of the single note's >> durations. >> >> This syntax extension looks quite natural to me. > > Not to me. Chord syntax explicitly creates a combined object with a > common duration, and the duration

Re: Error in glyphs: glyphs with filled loops at different feta font sizes

2011-01-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I can not reproduce these errors on Ubuntu 10.04. I have a > suspicion that it is your rasterizing engine in your Gentoo that is > being fussy and that the errors might be caused by the fact that > some of the fonts used by lilypond do not validate properly. Another possibility is that the gly

Re: Baroque Articulation mark

2011-01-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> The source is the Performers' Facsimiles edition of Dix Sonates by >> Godfrey Finger. > > May be a trill judging from the commentary in the "Ornaments" > article in Grove's and the chart at the end of the article. But in > that source and in "The New Harvard Dictionary of Music," these > pair

Re: incorrect displaying of Arabic text

2011-01-28 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> This is what I tried, and got the same (wrong) result (Arabic > characters not correctly displaying in their medial and initial > forms): I tried this: \relative c' { c4^\markup { \override #'(font-name . "KacstOffice") "العربية" } d e f | g^\markup { "english"

Re: incorrect displaying of Arabic text

2011-01-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Which version of LilyPond are you using? The 2.13 series has many, >> many improvements in font/text handling that may not have been >> backported to 2.12. > > I tried this on 2.12.3-1 (MacOS 10.6) and 2.13.47 (MacOS 10.6). I > see the same problem in both versions. The 2.14 release is comin

Re: UTF-8 character - inverted quotation marks

2011-02-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> DOUBLE LOW-9 QUOTATION MARK > > 201E (8222) This number is correct. The two quotation characters as used in Germany are „ (U+201E) and “ (U+201C). In X, on my GNU/Linux box, I get those characters by pressing and respectively. However, I don't know where , the compose key, is m

Re: Lilypond Band Score

2011-02-18 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Does anyone know how to create a full score and individual parts for > a concert band? This would be very helpful to me. There should be a > template for that in the documentation! `Should'? Boy, the documentation already has more than 1000 pages! Have you checked the lilypond snippet reposito

Re: engraving question - slur across notes sung to different syllabes?

2011-02-18 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> In vocal music slurs usually indicate melismatas. What a slur across > notes sung to different syllabes could mean? Legato, as you've correctly deduced. However, it also indicates possibilities for taking a breath. Richard Strauss uses a lot of such slurs... Just do what the composer is aski

Re: engraving question - slur across notes sung to different syllabes?

2011-02-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Lo and behold, another example from the Gondoliers This slur has an exact meaning: It's a portato. You can find this kind of notation in virtually all scores from the 19th century, including both German (e.g. Wagner) and Italian (e.g. Verdi) composers. Werner ___

Re: engraving question - slur across notes sung to different syllabes?

2011-02-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I'd use phrasing slur, however there's not much phrase to indicate > with it... Look at the slurs marked in red in the attachment - a > phrasing slur for 2 notes? Wearing my singers' coach hat, I'd say that the slurs have two meanings: . They indicate a long first note and a shorter second

Re: engraving question - slur across notes sung to different syllabes?

2011-02-20 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> According to my research following up your post, I think it's > actually portamento, which is explicitly said to be a vocal > technique indicated by slurs, as opposed to portato which is a > string technique, and includes staccato marks. Oops, sorry, you are right. Sorry for the sloppy wording.

Re: Italian translation?

2011-02-20 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> In the Gondoliers, the Contadine sing "Per voi, bei signori". > According to Google translate, 'bei' does not exist. Is there an > Italian speaker here who can say whether it is Italian, or whether > Gilbert got it wrong? Gilbert got it right. Try the following google search (*including* the

Re: mezzo staccato

2011-02-27 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> And anyway, the notation manual contains pictures of the various > accents, and apparently the combination is called "tenuto" and has > its own entry syntax and shorthand. The question is whether the verbal descriptions in the manual are expressive enough so that blind users like Hai-Ping have

Re: Compile for Mac

2011-03-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> sed -i bak \ > 's:usr/include/FlexLexer.h:opt/local/include/Flexlexer.h:' \ > config.make Hmm. Why isn't that handled properly by the configure script? Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mai

Re: OpenType ligatures

2011-03-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Only common "f" ligatures work in gedit : ff, fi, fl, ffi, ffl, ffj, > fj. st, ſt, ct, ſh, ſi, ſl, ſſ and sp don't work. Normally, such old-fashioned ligatures are disabled and have to be explicitly switched on by selecting a proper OpenType feature. Cf. the `liga' (standard ligatures), `clig'

Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-03-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I've seen these threat when it was just an 8 mails threat!!! > It grows BIG JAJAA!! Indeed. This thread becomes a threat because it's so big... Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listin

Re: Repeated embedded fonts in PDF documentation

2011-03-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> When I look at the metadata for the PDF versions of the > documentation, it shows hundreds and hundreds of embedded fonts. Or > more correctly, it shows subsets of the same fonts embedded, in some > cases, hundreds of times over. LilyPond creates many, many small PDF files which are eventually

Re: Repeated embedded fonts in PDF documentation

2011-03-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I just tried using pdfsizeopt without pngout, jbig2, or multivalent, > and got about a 25% reduction in the size of the Notation Reference > pdf. Better than nothing, actually. However, the `multivalent' part is the real optimization engine (and this is exactly the problematic bit w.r.t. the l

Re: Repeated embedded fonts in PDF documentation

2011-03-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I setup pdfsizeopt, including multivalent, and ran the 2.13.55 docs > through it, then created a PDF portfolio with an embedded index > using Acrobat. The end result was a 34.8MB file containing > > extending.pdf > internals.pdf > learning.pdf > notation.pdf > snippets.pdf > usage.pdf > web.pdf

Re: Major version: LilyPond 2.14.0 released!

2011-03-31 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> >> GLASGOW, Scotland -- April 1, 2011 -- The LilyPond development >> >> team is proud to announce LilyPond 2.14, the latest stable >> >> release of our award-winning music engraver. Graham, thanks a lot for all of your efforts! Werner PS: I can't see a 2.14 tag in `origin/master', and

Re: Major version: LilyPond 2.14.0 released!

2011-03-31 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> PS: I can't see a 2.14 tag in `origin/master', and >> `origin/stable/2.14' looks out of date. Is this intentional? Well, I know it's April 1st, but IIRC Graham has announced to release 2.14 a few days earlier (wasn't he talking about April 5th originally?) since he will be busy later on.

Re: Major version: LilyPond 2.14.0 released!

2011-04-01 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Really, the *only* bug? I couldn't build LilyPond 2.14.0 *at all*, > [...] Hear, hear! Could you please be more specific? I know that behind your back everything starts to rot (well, hopefully not everything), but our crystal balls are out of service currently :-) Werner ___

Re: Major version: LilyPond 2.14.0 released!

2011-04-01 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Werner, I'm no neuro-hacker but I'm afraid that your irony detector > might be a bit off today... Could you turn it back on, and have a look > at the list of build-dependencies I posted? :-) Uuuhhh. Werner ___ lilypond

Re: position of the little '8' in bass clef

2011-04-03 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Looks like a bug to me. See attachment. Definitely a bug... Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Extreme bad midi output in 2.13.57!!!

2011-04-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Lilypond 2.13.57 outputs midi in a extreme bad manner! Please > compile a piece you recently wrote, and you'll collapse when > listening the result. All note values are messed up, and in > orchestral score, all instruments start at the beginning, like a pan > of boiling water! I've reported

Re: Lilypond with Cubase/DAW for Musical

2011-04-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> [...] the fact that someone modified abc2ly to break the way *my* > ABC uses clefs (ABC isn't standardized, so there are several > dialects) is a real nuisance. This kind of change should be > discussed somewhere. Bug report, please. Werner __

Fw: Special layout for a score : four hands

2011-05-30 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Please help this guy. Werner --- Begin Message --- Dear Werner, I create a lot of piano four-hands scores, with separate PDFs for Primo and Secondo (see, for instance, my transcription of Fascinating Rhythm on my transcription website: http://www.moltoallegro.com/rich.html). I've begun

Re: transpose

2011-06-03 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>>> Here is a beautiful example of something I've been suspecting for >>> months.  No matter how fast I reply to a question in this list, my >>> reply only reaches other recipients's mailboxes after several >>> hours. :-( >> >> I'm not sure if that's correct. I sent my original message at 17:00 >>

Re: how to create baroque ornaments

2011-06-27 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I've put together a (very small) section of the Contributor's Guide on > fonts. Nice! Some comments: . Please explain why only 223 glyphs. People expect 256 as the limit, I think. . FontForge is not used to `display' the resulting glyph shapes but to convert the raw outlines created by

Re: Texinfo manual.

2011-06-28 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> But this path wasn't valid. The index.html file was actually > installed to > > file:///usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/doc/lilypond/html/offline-root/index.html Ouch. Why not the canonical location file:///usr/local/share/doc/lilypond/... ? This looks completely broken. Werner __

Re: Misaligned fermata

2011-07-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> A strange misalignment has appeared in one place in a score > (Lilypond 2.14.1, win32). Instead of sitting over a barline, a > fermata has been placed beneath the upper staff of a pianostaff. > Elsewhere in the same score (e.g. in the upper staff in the example) > it's coded in the same way but

Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord

2011-07-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Sorry for posting a too-complex example. But I'd also add, from the > perspective of a relatively new user, "tiny example" seems to be > defined a bit like pornography... hard to say exactly what it is, > but you know it when you see it. :) :-) This saying should go into the manual also...

Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Which one of the clefs in the attachment do you like best? The first. IMHO, the other two are too small or should be used for special situations only, like tight full scores. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://

Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> The first.  IMHO, the other two are too small or should be used for >> special situations only, like tight full scores. > > I've looked on IMSLP and many scores use clefs smaller than left > one, not only when staves are crowded. Yes, especially non-German editions use very small clefs. It's

Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Do you think it would be a good idea to include both current Lily > clef and the one suggested by me in the font? Yes, definitely! For example in your bww 988 example, I still think that the larger clef looks much better. Your idea of making the line through the spiral a bit more straight is

Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I really like the new clef in your recompiled examples. I vote for > at least including both options if not replacing the existing one > altogether. Thanks for your work on this, Janek, the treble clef > has been one of Lily's weakest visual aspects IMO. Please don't forget that lilypond's clef

Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> If anyone hasn't done this already, i strongly recomment >> alt-tab-comparing them (i.e. open them in two maximized windows, >> both zoomed to 400% or so, and switch windows with alt-tab). > > I noticed that i've send files not optimized for > alt-tab-comparison... Now i attach better ones; s

Re: Suggestions for a Contemporary Music Font

2011-07-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I think the more adequate way would be FontForge -> Metafont then. Well, yes and no. If you plan to add something to LilyPond's fonts, designing with FontForge might work, but a direct translation of the outlines to Metafont will most probably fail: You must add some `metaness' to the MF stuff

Re: Tuplets across barlines?

2011-07-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> In short, LilyPond's time-keeping system is something of a > miracle. Why? Because all of these things (and many others besides) > work *semantically*. Compare this with layers of kludge necessary > to make barline-crossing durations work in Finale or Sibelius. > > FWIW I've always suspected

Re: Font problem with fink compiled lilypond

2011-08-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Here are the messages I get in the console: >> >> warning: no PostScript font name for font >> `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/10x20.pcf.gz' > > It's improbable that you want to use an X11 font with LilyPond. To be more precise: LilyPond only handles outline fonts. A proper filter to ensure t

Re: Font problem with fink compiled lilypond

2011-08-15 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> To be more precise: LilyPond only handles outline fonts. A proper >> filter to ensure that is still missing. Reason is that the >> FontConfig interface doesn't provide a means to implement it. >> IIRC, there is already a bug tracker issue which covers this. > > I don't see why pango or fontc

Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-22 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> In this case, there are 6 organs, spaced about 30 meters apart > throughout the whole church. This adds the whole space dimension to > the experience. Well, there is at least one other place where you could perform pieces from this contest without organizing additional organs: The Salzburg Cat

Re: No pf dynamic marking in dynamic-scripts-init.ly

2011-09-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> I added the variable definition pf = #(make-dynamic-script "pf") to >> my ly source, but is there any reason why this should not be added >> to dynamic-scripts-init.ly? That already contains fp as a dynamic >> marking, why not pf? > > I don't see why it couldn't contain more permutations of '

Re: How does lilypond choose fonts?

2011-11-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I have set up my lilypond files to use fonts I like in \paper: > > #(define fonts > (make-pango-font-tree "Centaur MT" > "ITC Eras" > "Prestige Elite" >(/ myStaffSize 20))) > > And this works exactly as expecte

Re: Merry Christmas with Frescobaldi 2.0!

2011-12-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
[GNU/Linux 3.1.0-rc9 on openSuSE Factory] [frescobaldi 2.0.0] [python 2.7.2] [Qt 4.8.0] [PyQt4 4.9] [sip 4.13.1] [python-poppler-qt4 0.16.2] This is the first time I try to install and use Frescobaldi. Inspite of having all prerequisites, the program issues Could not load the popplerqt4 modul

Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: Merry Christmas with Frescobaldi 2.0!

2011-12-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> [GNU/Linux 3.1.0-rc9 on openSuSE Factory] >> [frescobaldi 2.0.0] >> [python 2.7.2] >> [Qt 4.8.0] >> [PyQt4 4.9] >> [sip 4.13.1] >> [python-poppler-qt4 0.16.2] >> >> This is the first time I try to install and use Frescobaldi. Inspite >> of having all prerequisites, the program issues >> >>

Re: cannot load the popplerqt4 module : frescobaldi 2.0.0

2011-12-27 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Be sure to install python-poppler-qt4 for the same Python version as > Frescobaldi is using. For me, it was very helpful to do what has been suggested in the frescobaldi group: > python >>> import popplerqt4 This has shown that my libpoppler DLL was out of date... Now it works. Wer

position of dots

2012-01-05 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Folks, how can I avoid the vertical lining up of the dots of dotted nots? As can be seen in the attached image, this looks very ugly. Instead, I would like to have an `as near to the note head as possible' layout strategy. Werner <>___ lilypond

Re: position of dots

2012-01-05 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> how can I avoid the vertical lining up of the dots of dotted nots? >> As can be seen in the attached image, this looks very ugly. >> Instead, I would like to have an `as near to the note head as >> possible' layout strategy. > > Looks like in this case a "gravity" strategy like those with whic

Re: position of dots

2012-01-05 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> how can I avoid the vertical lining up of the dots of dotted nots? >> [between notes from different voices] > > Of course there is the usual LilyPond way. > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/learning/adding-and-removing-engravers > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/interna

Re: position of dots

2012-01-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Good idea, thanks, but this completely prevents alignment of dots. > > No no, dots in a chord, within one voice, are still aligned. OK. > Remember that dots are not supposed to be aligned between separate > voices[1]. Interesting. However, if the dots' distances are not too far away from th

Re: position of dots

2012-01-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Looks like in this case a "gravity" strategy like those with which >> window managers snap windows to guides would be appropriate: keep >> aligned unless this makes dots move to far away from their target, >> in which case the connection gets severed. > > surely +1 > > bugreport? Mhmm, rathe

Re: position of dots

2012-01-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Moving the engraver to the voice context gives rise to a new set of > problems: This looks like a plain bug to me which has been hidden up to now. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinf

Re: position of dots

2012-01-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Looks like in this case a "gravity" strategy like those with which window managers snap windows to guides would be appropriate: keep aligned unless this makes dots move to far away from their target, in which case the connection gets severed. > > Or we'd want both a dot_column

tighter polyphony

2012-01-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Is there a possibility to tighten the horizontal distances in polyphony `chords'? The Bärenreiter edition of Bach's Chaconne use only the half distances, approximately. Werner <>___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gn

Re: tighter polyphony

2012-01-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Is there a possibility to tighten the horizontal distances in >> polyphony `chords'? The Bärenreiter edition of Bach's Chaconne use >> only the half distances, approximately. > > Looks like \voiceOne \voiceThree \voiceFive > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/snippets/simultaneous-n

Re: tighter polyphony

2012-01-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Is there a possibility to tighten the horizontal distances in >> polyphony `chords'?  The Bärenreiter edition of Bach's Chaconne use >> only the half distances, approximately. > > If i remember correctly, these values are hard-coded in c++ code. > This is one of the things i'm interested in doi

Re: position of dots

2012-01-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> This looks like a plain bug to me which has been hidden up to now. > > The dot-note collision is probably a bug that can probably be fixed. > > There can also be dot-dot collisions, though, if we move that engraver > and have dots line-up individually for each voice. > > When chords mesh, > <

Re: Lyircs melsima line ending in interpunctation

2012-01-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Please consider this example too (see attachment) - it's taken from > Haendel's "Messiah". I find placing the semicolon before extender > very awkward here - notice the line break. It seems much more "in > place" when punctuation is after the extender. I disagree. For me, the only right place

Re: Lyircs melsima line ending in interpunctation

2012-01-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Remember that if we sing, say, >> >> a - stray:_ >> >> >> we actually do >> >> a - stra_y: >> >> so putting just the punctuation after the melisma is illogical. > > I've been asking myself why, if that's the rule (which I don't deny) > eg. Frank Sinatra sings: > > Newww

Re: Lyircs melsima line ending in interpunctation

2012-01-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Remember that if we sing, say, >> >> a - stray:_ >> >> >> we actually do >> >> a - stra_y: >> >> so putting just the punctuation after the melisma is illogical. > > I could agree if we were talking about a melisma that doesn't cross > a line break. When there's a line break

printing bar line positions into a file

2012-01-25 Thread Werner LEMBERG
To all Scheme gurus: I want to collect the horizontal positions of all bar lines (or rather, the position of the first beat in a bar) within an output text file. Has someone written something similarly, possibly sharing his or her code? Werner _

Re: printing bar line positions into a file

2012-01-28 Thread Werner LEMBERG
tion % `beat-one-note-columns' and an example. % % Written originally by Thomas Morley . % Refined by Werner Lemberg . % % tested with LilyPond versions 2.14.2 and 2.15.27 #(define (read-out in pool out symbol) "Filter out all elements of list IN which are in list POOL, then append them

Re: printing bar line positions into a file

2012-01-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> further testing showed some problems. [...] > > Currently I've no idea to avoid this, I will think about it > furthermore. Thanks! Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Experimental Web-based Lilypond Editor

2012-02-08 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Its new name is LilyBin. Is that a great name? Hmm. Is this a dustbin for lilies? Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Stem separating dot from notehead

2012-02-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> With overlapping parts, Lilypond defaults to separating a dot from its > notehead by placing the overlapping stem in between. According to > Gould (p.57) this is incorrect. The overlapped stem should be placed > after the dot. > > \version "2.15.25" > > \relative c' { > << { c2 s c'4. } \\ { g

Re: LilyBin Launch

2012-02-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> The "Experimental Web-based LilyPond Editor" now has a name and a home at > http://www.lilybin.com! Very nice! Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: spam

2012-02-22 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> FYI, here is an even worse case, impersonation of James Kass, the > author of Code200x fonts. > > http://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2012-m02/ Indeed. And it is a pity that noone knows what has happened with James. Werner ___ lilyp

Re: Two questions about vertical layout and lyrics spacing

2012-03-21 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I suggest that the vertical spacing alrogithm should calculate the > area between the objects (staves, systems, lyrics etc). See here > how it would work: http://www.freeimagehosting.net/tsr21 Looks right: The area between horizontal skylines should influence the spacing. However, I think we

Re: Oldstyle Figures (OSF) from OpenType Font

2012-04-21 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I may be mistaken, but I don't believe there is currently a way to do > this. Perhaps post to the Bugs list as a feature request? http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1388 Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.or

Re: Oldstyle Figures (OSF) from OpenType Font

2012-04-21 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> In the issue report you say, LilyPond doesn't currenty (i.e. Nov > 2010) support OpenType features. Yes. > LilyPond does support ligatures and kerning (at least on Linux, it > seems this doesn't work on Windows). Are these no OpenType features? Today, kerning is usually realized with a featur

\tempo sticks out to the right

2012-04-28 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Folks, consider this example: \version "2.15.37" \relative c'' { c4 c c c | c4 c c c | c4 c c c | c4 c c c | c4 c c c | c4 c c c | \tempo "a very long tempo string" c4 c c c | c4 c c c | c4 c c c | c4 c c c | c4 c c c | c4 c c c | c4 c

Re: \tempo sticks out to the right

2012-04-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> How can I avoid that the \tempo string sticks >> out to the right? > > I forbid line-breaks for the next one or two measures. > > \tempo "a very long tempo string" c4 c c c |\noBreak Thanks, I've found this already by myself; one \noBreak is not enough, two \noBreak will do. However, this i

Re: \tempo sticks out to the right

2012-04-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> This is the only workaround that comes to my mind, but probably it's > not what you are looking for: > > \tempo \markup { > \center-column { > \line { a very long } > \line { tempo string } > } > } Indeed, this is a viable solution sometimes, e.g. in parts. Ideally, \tempo should

Re: \tempo sticks out to the right

2012-04-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Attached is its output.  How can I avoid that the \tempo string >> sticks out to the right? > > I think this is > > http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1133 Mhmm, not really, I think. As can be seen in my example, lilypond increases the spacing in the bar, but the \tempo still

Re: tuplet number placement and ornament

2012-04-30 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>>> In the following, even though I've turned off the tuplet bracket >>> stencil, the tuplet number is still placed as though the stencil >>> was there: > > [...] I want the number there, but not have it displaced upwards as > if the bracket was still there and avoiding the mordent. I found > su

Re: simple notation

2012-05-03 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> simple notation, or Ziffersystem > > Also mentioned here > http://www.gameo.org/encyclopedia/contents/Z544ME.html > Ziffersystem (Numerical Musical Notation) No, there is no support yet for Ji$(Q(p(Bnp$(Q(x(B. It shouldn't be too difficult to implement this, however. Note that adding a

Re: Directed \tweak commands in 2.15.39

2012-05-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> with regard to the latest development release (and 7th stable > release candidate), I wanted to point out a new feature that came in > as a side-effect of reimplementing footnotes, an optional > layout-object argument for tweaks: > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/the-twea

Re: Directed \tweak commands in 2.15.39

2012-05-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I am not sure this syntax is familiar to non-programmers: it might > make people try using actual brackets. This is, after all, not the > Extending LilyPond reference. OK. Another possibility is specifying two lines: \tweak layout-object #'grob-property value \tweak #'grob-property value

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I think that this could simplify the syntax by creating a standard > skeleton for .ly files going from most global to most specific: > > \version information > > \paper information > > \form information (number of bars, repeat locations, bars-per-line, > rehearsal mark locations, number of sta

Re: horizontal shift

2012-07-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> personally I have downloaded all the pdf documentation files into 1 > folder and then I can perform a search in the whole folder (with > Acrobat Reader, but others do it, too) which delivers a list of all > results. > > this is often more efficient than going through an internet search. I thin

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