Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-20 Thread Urs Liska
Am 20.07.2014 11:10, schrieb Janek Warchoł: Hi folks, as you can see, i'm falling behind with lilypond stuff, but i wanted to let you know that i've skimmed through this discussion and it LGTM. The only comment i have is: try to make things as simple as possible (but not simpler, of course) - i

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-20 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi folks, as you can see, i'm falling behind with lilypond stuff, but i wanted to let you know that i've skimmed through this discussion and it LGTM. The only comment i have is: try to make things as simple as possible (but not simpler, of course) - i wouldn't like openlilylib getting a "java-smel

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.07.2014 16:48, schrieb Paul Morris: Urs Liska wrote >Hm, I think I_must not_ start with such a script right now, since I >know that this - although being not too complex - will eat up too much >of my time and concentration. > >But your message triggered a little bit of thought, and I came

Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Urs Liska
shed-lowercase-scheme as for filenames). >> - reconsider the metadata structure >>(which fields are mandatory, which optional, default values?) >> - move all files in one go >>(that is: one commit for each snippet, as the files are not only >> moved but also r

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Paul Morris
ppets. One by one and using pull request. >(I think this should be done _with_ review and not be left to >the authors' discretion) Sounds fine to me. -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/openlilylib-Discuss-restructuring-tp163922p164121.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.07.2014 12:01, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Am 07.07.2014 11:46, schrieb Urs Liska: I followed the discussion only roughly, but I think it is a step in the right direction. I'd like to bring up the scheme-modules, I came up with. They need a fixed folder-structure and need to be updated accord

Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Am 07.07.2014 11:46, schrieb Urs Liska: >> I followed the discussion only roughly, but I think it is a step in the >> right direction. I'd like to bring up the scheme-modules, I came up >> with. They need a fixed folder-structure and need to be updated >> according to the path they are stored in. >

Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.07.2014 11:37, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Hi Urs and all, I followed the discussion only roughly, but I think it is a step in the right direction. I'd like to bring up the scheme-modules, I came up with. They need a fixed folder-structure and need to be updated according to the path they are

Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Urs and all, I followed the discussion only roughly, but I think it is a step in the right direction. I'd like to bring up the scheme-modules, I came up with. They need a fixed folder-structure and need to be updated according to the path they are stored in. Should we have a dedicated folder fo

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.07.2014 10:37, schrieb Urs Liska: Am 07.07.2014 09:55, schrieb Urs Liska: Maybe we can have a compromise. A script parsing the content of the tags field from all files shouldn't be hard to write. So we could: - agree upon an initial set of categories - agree upon a naming convention for ta

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.07.2014 09:55, schrieb Urs Liska: Maybe we can have a compromise. A script parsing the content of the tags field from all files shouldn't be hard to write. So we could: - agree upon an initial set of categories - agree upon a naming convention for tags (e.g. the same dashed-lowercase-sch

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Urs Liska
d tag the snippets. One by one and using pull request. (I think this should be done _with_ review and not be left to the authors' discretion) Urs -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/openlilylib-Discuss-restructuring-tp163922p164086.ht

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-06 Thread Paul Morris
of the files (which is how their authors were tagging them). (I guess this might mean moving the files first and then working on the tags?) -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/openlilylib-Discuss-restructuring-tp163922p164086.html Sent from the User

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-06 Thread Urs Liska
ppets they're interested in. > >Starting by tagging the existing snippets sounds fine to me. But not tagging directly but collecting suggestions first. Then decide about a set of tags and apply them during the move. Urs > >-Paul > > > >-- >View this message in

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-06 Thread Paul Morris
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Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-05 Thread Urs Liska
ike custom-music-fonts could be shortened to music-fonts. I had partially done that already, but only on the Wiki, not in the README. I've now updated both (this duplication isn't intended to be persistent...). Urs Cheers, -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1

Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-05 Thread Paul Morris
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Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-05 Thread Urs Liska
Am 05.07.2014 10:31, schrieb Urs Liska: Thanks. I think we will have to reconsider our metadata section and then do the transfer in that "reorganization" branch. I strongly suggest to excusively do that using pull requests, even among the members with push access. One more thing I would suggest

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-05 Thread Urs Liska
Am 05.07.2014 05:30, schrieb Paul Morris: Uns Liska wrote I can see the point and I'm ready to accept that approach. There is one issue, however, that I'd like to discuss before making any decision. \include "file-name.ily" opens the door wide for name conflicts. The more the names are s

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Paul Morris
). Just an idea, not sure if the extra directory is worth it or not. The rest of what you wrote all sounds fine to me. Cheers, -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/openlilylib-Discuss-restructuring-tp163922p163999.html Sent from the User mailing list archi

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Urs Liska
Am 04.07.2014 17:14, schrieb Paul Morris: Uns Liska wrote Am 03.07.2014 19:50, schrieb Paul Morris: Hi Urs, This is looking like an improvement to me. Here's a thought. If the emphasis is on include-ability, what about just having all the include files at the same level in the "Library" direc

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-07-04 17:14 GMT+02:00 Paul Morris : > One nice thing about decoupling the actual location of the files (their > include path) from the categories/tags/navigation structure, is that you > can > change the latter as needed as the library changes and matures, without > breaking compatibility wit

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Paul Morris
from the categories/tags/navigation structure, is that you can change the latter as needed as the library changes and matures, without breaking compatibility with existing files that are already using the library. Cheers, -Paul -- View this message in

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-07-03 17:51 GMT+02:00 Noeck : > I'd like to second especially the renaming/reodering of the > definitions file. It looks better without definition(s).ily at the end. > Me too, speaking file names are much better ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilyp

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-07-04 12:23 GMT+02:00 Urs Liska : >- I don't see yet what would go into »specific instruments/repertoire« >> > > For example shortcuts for staff changes in piano music. > Snippets for specific bending techniques for guitar. > Lute tablature. This way the bending techniques for guitar wo

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Urs Liska
Am 03.07.2014 17:51, schrieb Noeck: Hi, I like your ideas on the wiki. - I'd like to second especially the renaming/reodering of the definitions file. It looks better without definition(s).ily at the end. However, it means that the content of the library doubles (one folder and one ily). I am n

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Urs Liska
Sounds interesting, but I don't thing the time is ready for that. There has been discussion of providing a structure similar to the "TEXMF" tree in LaTeX distributions. This would be a place where "library" additions or "packages" could be stored to and made available in the official LilyPond d

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Urs Liska
y case, I think having fewer and broader categories is generally better. Thanks for the feedback Urs Cheers, -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/openlilylib-Discuss-restructuring-tp163922p163950.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-03 Thread Jay Anderson
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:06 AM, Urs Liska wrote: > Our repository has now lived for some time, and I think it is a good thing > to have and maintain. The recent renaming was partially intended to stress > its nature as an _includable_ library (as opposed to the official LSR). But > to make that wo

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-03 Thread Paul Morris
manually, but I suppose it could also be automated at some point.) In any case, I think having fewer and broader categories is generally better. Cheers, -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/openlilylib-Discuss-restructuring-tp163922p163950.html Se

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-03 Thread Noeck
Hi, I like your ideas on the wiki. - I'd like to second especially the renaming/reodering of the definitions file. It looks better without definition(s).ily at the end. However, it means that the content of the library doubles (one folder and one ily). I am not sure, if it is a good idea, but the

[openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-03 Thread Urs Liska
Hi to all interested or involved in the openlilylib (a.k.a openlilylib snippets) repository. Our repository has now lived for some time, and I think it is a good thing to have and maintain. The recent renaming was partially intended to stress its nature as an _includable_ library (as opposed t