Re: Comments on Learning Manual 3 -- Fundamental concepts

2008-08-14 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Robin Bannister wrote: Robin Bannister wrote A: 21 hits for \context Staff B: 14 hits for \context { \Staff I think I get it now. It must be that \context is overloaded, does two quite different things. Upon meeting a \context you must categorise it as A or B. The uninitiated attach

Re: Comments on Learning Manual 3 -- Fundamental concepts

2008-08-12 Thread John Mandereau
2008/8/10 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Absolutely. When the LM was written the appropriate sections in the NR did not exist, or at least the headings were expected to change. Now the headings have stabilised (more or less) the refs can be added. Could you please make a new patch, taking

Re: Comments on Learning Manual 3 -- Fundamental concepts

2008-08-12 Thread John Mandereau
2008/8/11 Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 23:54:44 +0200 Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, this is a Johnism (I don't know why he keeps asking us to remove parentheses). Parentheses are discouraged in highly formal writing, but they add clarity and

Re: Comments on Learning Manual 3 -- Fundamental concepts

2008-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
John Mandereau wrote Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:42 PM 2008/8/10 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Absolutely. When the LM was written the appropriate sections in the NR did not exist, or at least the headings were expected to change. Now the headings have stabilised (more or less) the refs

Re: Comments on Learning Manual 3 -- Fundamental concepts

2008-08-12 Thread Robin Bannister
Trevor Daniels wrote I learned you can have digits in context names! --- as long as the names are in quotation marks. which I regard as slightly more confirmation of my fragile suspicion that in (the current GDP) Learning Manual 3.1.1 - In summary there shouldn't be a backslash in front of

Re: Comments on Learning Manual 3 -- Fundamental concepts

2008-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mats Bengtsson wrote Robin Bannister wrote: Trevor Daniels wrote I learned you can have digits in context names! --- as long as the names are in quotation marks. which I regard as slightly more confirmation of my fragile suspicion that in (the current GDP) Learning Manual 3.1.1 - In

Re: Comments on Learning Manual 3 -- Fundamental concepts

2008-08-12 Thread Robin Bannister
Trevor Daniels wrote Thanks, Robin Well, you're welcome. Glad to be of some use. But also disappointed, because I thought I had understood something (from reading the manual!), and now it seems I hadn't. Statistics for NR (pdf dated 2008-08-09, only slightly stale): A: 21 hits for

Re: Comments on Learning Manual 3 -- Fundamental concepts

2008-08-12 Thread Robin Bannister
Robin Bannister wrote A: 21 hits for \context Staff B: 14 hits for \context { \Staff I think I get it now. It must be that \context is overloaded, does two quite different things. Upon meeting a \context you must categorise it as A or B. The uninitiated attach no particular

Re: Comments on Learning Manual 3 -- Fundamental concepts

2008-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Robin Bannister wrote Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:36 PM Robin Bannister wrote A: 21 hits for \context Staff B: 14 hits for \context { \Staff I think I get it now. Yup - you got it. It must be that \context is overloaded, does two quite different things. Upon meeting a \context

Re: Comments on Learning Manual 3 -- Fundamental concepts

2008-08-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Robin Bannister wrote Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:56 PM Statistics for NR (pdf dated 2008-08-09, only slightly stale): A: 21 hits for \context Staff B: 14 hits for \context { \Staff Or is it that I'm talking about A, and you are talking about B? Yes, or more to the point, the Learning

Re: Comments on Learning Manual 3 -- Fundamental concepts

2008-08-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 23:54:44 +0200 Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/8/9 Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This must be a Frenchism; I winced when I saw it in some of Valentin's text.itely changes. Why on earth remove the parentheses? They help clarify the structure of

Re: Comments on Learning Manual 3 -- Fundamental concepts

2008-08-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
John, you wrote Saturday, August 09, 2008 5:15 PM I proofread chapter 3 of the Learning Manual up to 3.1.4 'Modifying context properties'. This is globally great work, I wish I could read such docs instead of spending hours in trial-and-error and reading Mats' explanations on -user, when I

Comments on Learning Manual 3 -- Fundamental concepts

2008-08-09 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Trevor, I proofread chapter 3 of the Learning Manual up to 3.1.4 'Modifying context properties'. This is globally great work, I wish I could read such docs instead of spending hours in trial-and-error and reading Mats' explanations on -user, when I started with LilyPond 4 years ago :-). I

Re: Comments on Learning Manual 3 -- Fundamental concepts

2008-08-09 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 18:15:35 +0200 John Mandereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In 'Introduction to the LilyPond file structure': by default, \header does not use the same fields depending on its scope (\book or \score), so IMO it's better to show the more standard file structure with a \header

Re: Comments on Learning Manual 3 -- Fundamental concepts

2008-08-09 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Graham Percival wrote: On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 18:15:35 +0200 John Mandereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In 'Introduction to the LilyPond file structure': by default, \header does not use the same fields depending on its scope (\book or \score), so IMO it's better to show the more standard file

Re: Comments on Learning Manual 3 -- Fundamental concepts

2008-08-09 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/8/9 Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This must be a Frenchism; I winced when I saw it in some of Valentin's text.itely changes. Why on earth remove the parentheses? They help clarify the structure of the sentence. Actually, this is a Johnism (I don't know why he keeps asking us to

Re: Comments on Learning Manual 3 -- Fundamental concepts

2008-08-09 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:39:09 +0200 Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graham Percival wrote: I disagree. Shoving \header outside of a \book or \score is a shorthand, and I'd rather keep the basic example as basic as (reasonably) possibly. Also, having a \header on its own will