Re: AW: Custom Format

2021-04-02 Thread Wols Lists
On 02/04/21 11:57, David Kastrup wrote: >> Apart from the organ (which I was shocked to discover, in its MODERN >> > form, first appeared about 600BC!!!), > Herr Gottlieb Silbermann would like to have a word with you. Because he > invested an awful lot of work to get organs to the state we call

Re: AW: Custom Format

2021-04-02 Thread David Kastrup
antlists writes: > On 01/04/2021 09:50, Kevin Barry wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 11:47:05PM +0100, antlists wrote: >>> On 31/03/2021 20:20, Callum Cassidy-Nolan wrote: You are correct, there is no distinction between these two notes, because in terms of pitch they are the same.

Re: AW: Custom Format

2021-04-01 Thread antlists
On 01/04/2021 09:50, Kevin Barry wrote: On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 11:47:05PM +0100, antlists wrote: On 31/03/2021 20:20, Callum Cassidy-Nolan wrote: You are correct, there is no distinction between these two notes, because in terms of pitch they are the same. Actually, they're not ... If

Re: AW: Custom Format

2021-04-01 Thread David Kastrup
Kevin Barry writes: > On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 08:24:08PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > >> Sure. And even if you wanted to do this with numbers, the 12th root of >> 2 can be calculated by doing a cube root and 2 square roots. And cube >> roots were already calculated by Babylonian

Re: AW: Custom Format

2021-04-01 Thread Kevin Barry
On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 08:24:08PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > So? The seventeenth century did not have frequency counters. Tunings > were established (and actually still are to this day: just ask any organ > tuner or accordion tuner) by distributing the beatings of non-pure > intervals across

Re: AW: Custom Format

2021-04-01 Thread David Kastrup
Kevin Barry writes: > Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 05:03:58PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: >> Kevin Barry writes: >> >> > That's why, as soon as the mathematics (root extractions) required for >> > tempered tuning were discovered, it rapidly became the standard. >> >> I think your history of

Re: AW: Custom Format

2021-04-01 Thread David Kastrup
Kevin Barry writes: > Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 05:03:58PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: >> Kevin Barry writes: >> >> > That's why, as soon as the mathematics (root extractions) required for >> > tempered tuning were discovered, it rapidly became the standard. >> >> I think your history of

Re: AW: Custom Format

2021-04-01 Thread Kevin Barry
Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 05:03:58PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Kevin Barry writes: > > > That's why, as soon as the mathematics (root extractions) required for > > tempered tuning were discovered, it rapidly became the standard. > > I think your history of mathematics is a bit off. Seriously.

Re: Custom Format

2021-04-01 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2021-03-31 12:12 pm, Callum Cassidy-Nolan wrote: Could you explain why 6 usually corresponds to the pitch B and not always? B does not always mean B natural. In systems where H is a note, B is the name for B flat. The documentation here is perhaps a little misleading in that it implies

Re: AW: Custom Format

2021-04-01 Thread David Kastrup
Kevin Barry writes: > That's why, as soon as the mathematics (root extractions) required for > tempered tuning were discovered, it rapidly became the standard. I think your history of mathematics is a bit off. Seriously. And I have no idea how you think mean-tone tunings work. -- David

Re: Custom Format

2021-04-01 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
The issue of black notes is a red herring. Even if you restrict yourself to one pitch, "A" let's say, you will find that there isn't a single correct value for it. The A which is a major third above F is not the same pitch as the A that is fourth fifths (less two octaves) from F (if anyone

Re: AW: Custom Format

2021-04-01 Thread Kevin Barry
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 11:47:05PM +0100, antlists wrote: > On 31/03/2021 20:20, Callum Cassidy-Nolan wrote: > > You are correct, there is no distinction between these two notes, > > because in terms of pitch they are the same. > > Actually, they're not ... > > If you're talking about

Re: AW: Custom Format

2021-03-31 Thread David Kastrup
antlists writes: > On 31/03/2021 20:20, Callum Cassidy-Nolan wrote: >> You are correct, there is no distinction between these two notes, >> because in terms of pitch they are the same. > > Actually, they're not ... > > If you're talking about "well-tempered" instruments - basically > keyboard -

Re: AW: Custom Format

2021-03-31 Thread antlists
On 31/03/2021 20:20, Callum Cassidy-Nolan wrote: You are correct, there is no distinction between these two notes, because in terms of pitch they are the same. Actually, they're not ... If you're talking about "well-tempered" instruments - basically keyboard - then IN PRACTICE they are the

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2021-03-31 Thread torsten.haemmerle
21:21 An: torsten.haemme...@web.de; lilypond-user@gnu.org Betreff: Re: AW: Custom Format Hi Torsten, You are correct, there is no distinction between these two notes, because in terms of pitch they are the same. I realize that my approach to music is non-standard, and when I made it I was not th

Re: Custom Format

2021-03-31 Thread David Kastrup
Callum Cassidy-Nolan writes: > Hi Aaron, > > Thanks for reminding me about the mailing list - my email client only > put in your email when I pressed reply - so I have to enter it > manually (proton mail web client). I can find no public help pages, but judging from the screen shots, the "Reply

Re: AW: Custom Format

2021-03-31 Thread Callum Cassidy-Nolan
lilypond-user > Im Auftrag von Callum Cassidy-Nolan > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. März 2021 02:31 > An: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Betreff: Custom Format > > Hi there, > > I have just become aware of lilypond. > > I would love to use it, but I have a particular way I inter

Re: Custom Format

2021-03-31 Thread Callum Cassidy-Nolan
Hi Aaron, Thanks for reminding me about the mailing list - my email client only put in your email when I pressed reply - so I have to enter it manually (proton mail web client). > Since LilyPond already uses numbers for durations, you might consider > writing numeric pitches in alphabetic

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2021-03-31 Thread torsten.haemmerle
fifth, then? Etc. All the best Torsten Von: lilypond-user Im Auftrag von Callum Cassidy-Nolan Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. März 2021 02:31 An: lilypond-user@gnu.org Betreff: Custom Format Hi there, I have just become aware of lilypond. I would love to use it, but I have a particular

Re: Custom Format

2021-03-31 Thread Aaron Hill
(For your reference, do try to remember keeping the mailing list on future emails. This ensures wider visibility and continuity of the discussion for all users. Also, those of us who participate on the list are sometimes busy with other work, so personal contact can often result in delayed

Re: Custom Format

2021-03-30 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2021-03-30 5:30 pm, Callum Cassidy-Nolan wrote: [...] I would love to use it, but I have a particular way I interact with music. Particularly I don't use letter names, but instead I use numbers, to understand what I mean, please take a look at my document:

Re: Custom Format

2021-03-30 Thread Karlin High
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021, 7:31 PM Callum Cassidy-Nolan wrote: > In my system I would write something like this: > > \version "2.22.0" > { > 0' 4' 7' 4' > } > > LilyPond uses numbers for durations. In your case, if numbers are pitches, what would you have for durations? -- Karlin High Missouri, USA

Custom Format

2021-03-30 Thread Callum Cassidy-Nolan
Hi there, I have just become aware of lilypond. I would love to use it, but I have a particular way I interact with music. Particularly I don't use letter names, but instead I use numbers, to understand what I mean, please take a look at my document: