Re: Actually forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-04 Thread David Sumbler
On Wed, 2017-01-04 at 09:25 -0500, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi David, > > > > > It seems to be what I was talking about - thanks for pointing it > > out. > > Is this a relatively new feature? > I would think this feature has been around for at least 6 years, > maybe longer? And looking at the

Re: Actually forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-04 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > It seems to be what I was talking about - thanks for pointing it out. > Is this a relatively new feature? I would think this feature has been around for at least 6 years, maybe longer? Cheers, Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website:

Re: Actually forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-04 Thread David Sumbler
On Wed, 2017-01-04 at 08:20 -0500, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > It would be very useful sometimes to be able to tell Lilypond > > > something > > > like: "Regardless of any other considerations, make sure that the > > > second note is at least 3 staff-spaces to the right

Re: Actually forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-04 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, >> It would be very useful sometimes to be able to tell Lilypond something >> like: "Regardless of any other considerations, make sure that the >> second note is at least 3 staff-spaces to the right of the first note." >> >> Can this be done? > > Quite frankly: no, currently not, or I’d

Re: Actually forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-04 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 04.01.2017 11:11, David Sumbler wrote: It would be very useful sometimes to be able to tell Lilypond something like: "Regardless of any other considerations, make sure that the second note is at least 3 staff-spaces to the right of the first note." Can this be done? Quite frankly: no,

Actually forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-04 Thread David Sumbler
On Tue, 2017-01-03 at 13:45 +0100, Urs Liska wrote: > Hi all, > > it seems to me this should be easily doable, but I don't find the > right > incantation. > > I would like to force some space between the first group in the right > hand and the following grace notes. This is necessary in order to 

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-03 Thread Urs Liska
Am 03.01.2017 um 17:39 schrieb Alexander Kobel: > On 2017-01-03 17:25, Urs Liska wrote: >> Am 03.01.2017 um 17:01 schrieb Alexander Kobel: >>> On 2017-01-03 16:27, Urs Liska wrote: Just for reference, attached you'll find my preliminary result with a compound slur that is somewhat

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-03 Thread Urs Liska
Am 03.01.2017 um 17:10 schrieb Mark Knoop: > Great start Urs! Thanks :-) > Why do you invert the stem direction in the first beat > from (at least my copy of) the original? Having the RH 6tuplet stems up > would seem to allow for closer staff spacing... That's because I didn't look at that

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-03 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 2017-01-03 17:25, Urs Liska wrote: > Am 03.01.2017 um 17:01 schrieb Alexander Kobel: >> On 2017-01-03 16:27, Urs Liska wrote: >>> Just for reference, attached you'll find my preliminary result with a >>> compound slur that is somewhat more "mainstream" than the original Sorabji >>> example

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-03 Thread Urs Liska
Am 03.01.2017 um 17:01 schrieb Alexander Kobel: > On 2017-01-03 16:27, Urs Liska wrote: >> Just for reference, attached you'll find my preliminary result with a >> compound slur that is somewhat more "mainstream" than the original Sorabji >> example :-) > Geez! Apparently there's not just a

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-03 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Urs, last year I was facing this issue and also used this override. Just as a hint is this example, using the edition-engraver. The method to enter succeeding mods which only differ by one value is the one I used. Some of the declared functions are taken from my own toolchain ... To the

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-03 Thread Mark Knoop
Great start Urs! Why do you invert the stem direction in the first beat from (at least my copy of) the original? Having the RH 6tuplet stems up would seem to allow for closer staff spacing... Lots of lilypond challenges in this piece. Looking forward to your compound slurs on the penultimate page

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-03 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 2017-01-03 16:27, Urs Liska wrote: > Just for reference, attached you'll find my preliminary result with a > compound slur that is somewhat more "mainstream" than the original Sorabji > example :-) Geez! Apparently there's not just a need for irrational tuplets, but also Bézier curves of

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-03 Thread Urs Liska
Just for reference, attached you'll find my preliminary result with a compound slur that is somewhat more "mainstream" than the original Sorabji example :-) Best Urs Am 03.01.2017 um 13:45 schrieb Urs Liska: > Hi all, > > it seems to me this should be easily doable, but I don't find the right >

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-03 Thread Urs Liska
Am 03.01.2017 um 14:16 schrieb Thomas Morley: > 2017-01-03 14:12 GMT+01:00 Urs Liska : >> >> Am 03.01.2017 um 13:56 schrieb Pierre Perol-Schneider: >> >> How about the new spacing section? >> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/new-spacing-section >> >> >>

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-03 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Pierre, I use proportional notation and the new spacing section is never happy when combined with that, it appears. Oftimes I just wish I could tell lilypond to stop being so smart and do note spacing how I want it, regardless of whether it is 'correct' or not. Horror of horrors, I would even

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-03 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-01-03 14:12 GMT+01:00 Urs Liska : > > > Am 03.01.2017 um 13:56 schrieb Pierre Perol-Schneider: > > How about the new spacing section? > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/new-spacing-section > > > Well, this at least does affect the horizontal spacing

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-03 Thread Urs Liska
Am 03.01.2017 um 14:06 schrieb Rutger Hofman: > On 03-01-17 13:45, Urs Liska wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> it seems to me this should be easily doable, but I don't find the right >> incantation. >> >> I would like to force some space between the first group in the right >> hand and the following grace

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-03 Thread Urs Liska
Am 03.01.2017 um 13:56 schrieb Pierre Perol-Schneider: > How about the new spacing section? > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/new-spacing-section Well, this at least does affect the horizontal spacing and allows to force some space in. But it's very hard to control because

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-03 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 2017-01-03 13:56, Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote: > How about the new spacing section? > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/new-spacing-section Sounds like the most proper solution, perhaps with adjustments of shortest-duration-space. For dirty one-shot tweaks though,

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-03 Thread SoundsFromSound
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Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-03 Thread Rutger Hofman
On 03-01-17 13:45, Urs Liska wrote: Hi all, it seems to me this should be easily doable, but I don't find the right incantation. I would like to force some space between the first group in the right hand and the following grace notes. This is necessary in order to squeeze a slur between them,

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-03 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
How about the new spacing section? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/new-spacing-section HTH, Pierre 2017-01-03 13:53 GMT+01:00 Andrew Bernard : > Hi Urs, > > No solution from me, but I just feel compelled to mention that this is one > of my BIG

Re: Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-03 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Urs, No solution from me, but I just feel compelled to mention that this is one of my BIG issues with lilypond that I cannot seem to control - adjusting fine spacing like this in my scores is never successful. If there is a way to do it, hopefully somebody will let us know. If not, this would

Forcing some horizontal space between two notes

2017-01-03 Thread Urs Liska
Hi all, it seems to me this should be easily doable, but I don't find the right incantation. I would like to force some space between the first group in the right hand and the following grace notes. This is necessary in order to squeeze a slur between them, coming from the dis in the left hand.