Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-06 Thread Reilly
Hi Kieren, On Jan 3, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: I have easily spent 10 times the amount of time studying Lilypond and understand only 1/10th of what I can do in LaTeX. This may be because LaTeX includes *significantly* more (and more complex) macros which sit on top of

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-04 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Le 3 janv. 08 à 21:31, Valentin Villenave a écrit : [...] Mmm... I'll still wait for a few days and see if the author has anything to say on this topic :) Plus, it would be great to add a few actual notes to demonstrate its use (I'd be happy to use the 'real_music' tag just once more :) I

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 13:50:14 -0500 Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you don't need explanations. I disagree! 1. If these are meant in any way to be instructive (like most, if not all, of the LSR!), then there *must* be internal documentation. They're not. They're supposed

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-04 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Graham, They're not. They're supposed to be useful. Because instruction isn't useful? For future reference, I don't read or respond to posts which begin with such ludicrous and intentionally irritating statements... Regards, Kieren. ___

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 15:18:07 -0500 Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Graham, They're not. They're supposed to be useful. Because instruction isn't useful? For future reference, I don't read or respond to posts which begin with such ludicrous and intentionally irritating

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-04 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/1/4, Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For future reference, I don't read or respond to posts which begin with such ludicrous and intentionally irritating statements... Hi everybody, hi Kieren, I think there's some kind of a misunderstanding here... I thought everybody on this list

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-03 Thread Jeremiah Reilly
Kieren, Once again (and again), thank you for your advice. On Sunday, December 30, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: How can I figure out new code to solve new problems when I don't know the code exists? I have learned essentially everything I know by looking at the examples

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-03 Thread Graham Percival
1. Look at the GDP docs: http://web.uvic.ca/~gperciva/ 2. Specifically, the Learning Manual 3 Fundamental concepts. Probably 4 Tweaking output as well. Trevor Daniels has spent dozens of hours working on these chapters. 3. If you have any improvements, please send them. Cheers, - Graham On

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-03 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Jeremiah, Once again (and again), thank you for your advice. =) In the particular instance above, however, I am not sure how I would *know* to replace \GrandStaff with \InnerStaffGroup. See next paragrraph below. Okay... I think I'm beginning to understand your issue(s). (1) Last

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:39:58 -0500 Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The benefit of LaTeX, coupled with whatever documentclass and packages you use, is that you don't NEED to access the code at that level. Lilypond just doesn't have those abstracted stylesheets. I'll add that this

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-03 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/1/3, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We also now have the perfect place for these stylesheets: LSR. If there's any interest in this, we'll add a tag specifically for stylesheets (or modules or packages or whatever we want to call them). These snippets would be just like LaTeX

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-03 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi y'all: I'll add that this lack of stylesheets is due to users not creating them, not a lack of technical support. I figured that was the case, but it's nice to get official confirmation! =) It just requires a helpful user to create the stylesheet. Coincidentally, I've recently been

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-03 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Graham, Don't split it up. I partially agree. And you don't need explanations. I disagree! 1. If these are meant in any way to be instructive (like most, if not all, of the LSR!), then there *must* be internal documentation. 2. If these are meant to be combined, then they need

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-03 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/1/3, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No, no! Don't split it up. And you don't need explanations. At laest, not for what I'm thinking. (NB: I haven't even glanced at whatever we're talking about) Err... IIRC we're talking about maybe 5000 lines of code here. Nicolas himself has

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-03 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 03.01.2008 (13:50), Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Graham, And you don't need explanations. I disagree! Me too. For the reasons Kieren gives, and - Do normal LaTeX users ever look at the details of packages? I do... but then again, I'm not normal. - the follow-up question: ARE there any

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2007-12-30 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Jeremiah, Thank you TWICE over for your help. You're twice-over welcome! =) Your code worked perfectly. I try my best... Very frustrating! (This is a rhetorical question; no response necessary.) Decided to respond anyway! How can I figure out new code to solve new problems when I

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2007-12-28 Thread Reilly
Kieren, Thank you TWICE over for your help. Your code worked perfectly. I compared it to my trial code and this is what you added: On Dec 27, 2007, at 9:34 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: \context { \InnerStaffGroup

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2007-12-27 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Jeremiah, Thank you for your advice (and ALL your many helpful comments in the Lilypond archive). My pleasure! I have been able to Start my systems exactly the way I want to Excellent. How do I name InnerStaffGroup s? Hopefully the example code (below) will help. Best wishes,

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2007-12-26 Thread Reilly
Kieran, Thank you for your advice (and ALL your many helpful comments in the Lilypond archive). On Dec 22, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hey there! Questions: Is there a better, easier, more logical, more consistent solution with better layout? Have I missed a staff-group

Instrumental Group Names in Score

2007-12-22 Thread Reilly
Foremost, a BIG thank-you to everyone who has written, developed, tweaked, and improved Lilypond and to everyone who has answered questions on the Lilypond Users Group. I am preparing a score in Lilypond for full orchestra and want to use my customary layout (system starts, naming, etc.).

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2007-12-22 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hey there! Questions: Is there a better, easier, more logical, more consistent solution with better layout? Have I missed a staff-group command for nestled groups (but using the system start delimiters of my choice)? I'm assuming you know about InnerStaffGroup? Certainly that's what I