Re: Lighter appearance

2008-11-18 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
2008/11/14 Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Is there a set of settings to make LP output lighter? Setting line-thickness = \staff-space / 16 seems a good start, but I assume there's more to it. I've tried to make it lighter, for a particular publication -- there is some settings

Re: Lighter appearance

2008-11-18 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
2008/11/14 Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Is there a set of settings to make LP output lighter? Setting line-thickness = \staff-space / 16 seems a good start, but I assume there's more to it. I've tried to make it lighter, for a particular publication -- there is some settings

Re: Lighter appearance

2008-11-18 Thread Johan Vromans
David Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you look at a good score of anything that was printed before the time of computers, you can see that Lilypond looks 'almost like real music', and Sibelius looks 'like a computer' This does not necessarily mean that old scores look better than new

Re: Lighter appearance

2008-11-18 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
This will always be a kludge. The font and the line width settings are tuned together. If you really want to do this, you have to recompile LilyPond including the fonts, and update the definitions for the fonts too. On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Dmytro O. Redchuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Lighter appearance

2008-11-17 Thread David Rogers
On 2008-11-14 at 08:09, Johan Vromans wrote: Hi, While comparing the LilyPond gegerated output with the output of a competitor program, I noticed that the LP outout is much 'heavier'. See e.g., http://www.squirrel.nl/pub/xfer/lilsib.jpg . The top line is from LilyPond, the bottom line is

Re: Lighter appearance

2008-11-15 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 14.11.2008 (16:20), Carl D. Sorensen wrote: On 11/14/08 2:27 PM, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree -- are you sure the top line isn't from Finale or something? It looks incredibly bad. WTF is up with the gap between the sixteenth and eighth in the second bar from the

Re: Lighter appearance

2008-11-15 Thread Cameron Horsburgh
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 09:32:59AM +0100, Eyolf Østrem wrote: That said, I sometimes think the lilypond defaults are a bit to the heavy side. Especially the final barlines come to mind. As a future feature, it wouldn't be a bad idea with an alternative set of lighter settings which could be

Re: Lighter appearance

2008-11-15 Thread Johan Vromans
Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is not the default output of LilyPond. I agree -- are you sure the top line isn't from Finale or something? It looks incredibly bad. WTF is up with the gap between the sixteenth and eighth in the second bar from the end?! LilyPond would

Re: Lighter appearance

2008-11-15 Thread Johan Vromans
Carl D. Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I set that exact line in LilyPond 2.11.64. I needed to do some manual beaming to get the same beaming as in the top line. Interesting. When I try: \relative c' { \time 6/8 r4 a8 d e f | e d4 ~ d4. | r4 r16 g,16 e'8 g e16 d | c8. ( a16

Re: Lighter appearance

2008-11-15 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/11/15 Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think I found an explanation. My score sample was typeset with #(set-global-staff-size 14) I'd expected the line thickness to scale accordingly, but apparently this is not the case (4.2.1, Setting the staff size): Each font is tuned for a

Re: Lighter appearance

2008-11-15 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 11/15/08 4:32 AM, Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carl D. Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I set that exact line in LilyPond 2.11.64. I needed to do some manual beaming to get the same beaming as in the top line. Interesting. When I try: \relative c' { \time 6/8

Lighter appearance

2008-11-14 Thread Johan Vromans
Hi, While comparing the LilyPond gegerated output with the output of a competitor program, I noticed that the LP outout is much 'heavier'. See e.g., http://www.squirrel.nl/pub/xfer/lilsib.jpg . The top line is from LilyPond, the bottom line is from a Sibelius printout. I think the larger

Re: Lighter appearance

2008-11-14 Thread Bailey James E.
While I'm sure there is, I'll say that lilypond's heavier look is intentional (see http://lilypond.org/web/about/automated-engraving/typography-features) . I'll say that the lighter look of the scores produced by most other programs makes them almost impossible for me to read, at the very

Re: Lighter appearance

2008-11-14 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/11/14 Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, While comparing the LilyPond gegerated output with the output of a competitor program, I noticed that the LP outout is much 'heavier'. See e.g., http://www.squirrel.nl/pub/xfer/lilsib.jpg . The top line is from LilyPond, the bottom line is

Re: Lighter appearance

2008-11-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 09:50:01PM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: 2008/11/14 Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED]: While comparing the LilyPond gegerated output with the output of a competitor program, I noticed that the LP outout is much 'heavier'. See e.g.,

Re: Lighter appearance

2008-11-14 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 11/14/08 2:27 PM, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 09:50:01PM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: 2008/11/14 Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED]: While comparing the LilyPond gegerated output with the output of a competitor program, I noticed that the LP outout is