Re: lilypond speed

2011-02-15 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Martin Tarenskeen" To: "lilypond-user mailinglist" Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:42 AM Subject: lilypond speed Some day soon my still reliable but not very fast 10 year old laptop will have to be replaced by a more modern mach

Re: lilypond speed

2011-02-15 Thread Bernardo Barros
I was thinkig about that too. Parallelization in Lilypond can be possible. Imagine rendering one page in each core in parallel, or one system for each core. Also other kinds of optimizations for 'preview' modes, where you need more speed then optimal quality? Maybe improved performance can be a fe

Re: lilypond speed

2011-02-15 Thread flup2
On a Mac, speed increase from a Core2Duo to a Corei5 is really noticeable, about 40% faster. I guess this is about the same on Windows or Linux. I think you'll see a huge difference. :) Philippe -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/lilypond-speed-tp30929720p30929766.html

lilypond speed

2011-02-15 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
Some day soon my still reliable but not very fast 10 year old laptop will have to be replaced by a more modern machine. Will Lilypond benifit much if my next computer will have one of those modern multi-core processors like the Intel i3/5/7 ? I'm just curious. -- Martin _

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-09-04 Thread Joe Neeman
On Fri, 2009-09-04 at 22:05 +0100, Graham Percival wrote: > On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 10:52:13PM +0200, Valentin Villenave wrote: > > Actually, I stumbled upon something very odd: though I haven't the > > exact numbers, with 2.12 my opera used to compile in ~40 minutes on > > Win32, ~25 minutes on Li

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-09-04 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > How is that odd?  More complicated algorithms take more time.  I > haven't followed the details of the spacing changes, but I'd > certainly expect them to take longer. I do too, but -- let me do the math -- a _360%_ increase, really? :-) R

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-09-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 10:52:13PM +0200, Valentin Villenave wrote: > Actually, I stumbled upon something very odd: though I haven't the > exact numbers, with 2.12 my opera used to compile in ~40 minutes on > Win32, ~25 minutes on Linux64 -- but now that I have upgraded to the > latest git sources

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-09-04 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > W00t, I got only > real    5m47.699s > user    5m32.306s > sys     0m11.697s > on my linux system (C2D @ 2 GHz), but I'm still on 2.12.1, which gave me some > error messages, though the PDF was created. Perhaps 2.13 is a little > faster(?)

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-09-04 Thread Tim Reeves
Frank wrote: >Am Donnerstag, 3. September 2009 schrieb Tim Reeves: > >> Mainly for my own curiosity, I compiled the Reubke Sonata score to check >> timing: >> WinXP SP3 32-bit, LP 2.13.3, LPT 2.12.869, on Intel C2D E9600 (2.8GHz), 2 >> GB RAM >> >> 5 min 38 seconds. >> >> A bit slower than the Li

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-09-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: > From: Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) > Subject: Re: Lilypond Speed > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 6:40 AM > Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > &

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-09-03 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Donnerstag, 3. September 2009 schrieb Tim Reeves: > Mainly for my own curiosity, I compiled the Reubke Sonata score to check > timing: > WinXP SP3 32-bit, LP 2.13.3, LPT 2.12.869, on Intel C2D E9600 (2.8GHz), 2 > GB RAM > > 5 min 38 seconds. > > A bit slower than the Linux times others got. W0

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-09-03 Thread Tim Reeves
Mainly for my own curiosity, I compiled the Reubke Sonata score to check timing: WinXP SP3 32-bit, LP 2.13.3, LPT 2.12.869, on Intel C2D E9600 (2.8GHz), 2 GB RAM 5 min 38 seconds. A bit slower than the Linux times others got. I do have a Vista machine at home (wife's PC) I could check it on if

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-09-03 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Donnerstag, 3. September 2009 schrieb Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool): > Please don't start this discussion :) Then how about a discussion about top posting? ;-) ;-) *duckandhide* -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' What do you call a dead bee? - A was. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-09-03 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Please don't start this discussion :) Pierre Couderc wrote: Mmm, It may be too that linux applications are by nature of the OS quicker than Windows ones... Tim McNamara a écrit : On Sep 3, 2009, at 7:04 AM, Nick Payne wrote: So it looks as though, for any sort of substantial score, turnaro

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-09-03 Thread Pierre Couderc
Mmm, It may be too that linux applications are by nature of the OS quicker than Windows ones... Tim McNamara a écrit : On Sep 3, 2009, at 7:04 AM, Nick Payne wrote: So it looks as though, for any sort of substantial score, turnaround time will be markedly reduced by using 64-bit Linux. Th

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-09-03 Thread Tim McNamara
On Sep 3, 2009, at 7:04 AM, Nick Payne wrote: So it looks as though, for any sort of substantial score, turnaround time will be markedly reduced by using 64-bit Linux. Thanks for all the comparisons, Nick, that was very interesting. If I understand the history of LilyPond correctly, it is

RE: Lilypond Speed

2009-09-03 Thread Nick Payne
> -Original Message- > From: lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org > [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org] On > Behalf Of Nick Payne > Sent: Wednesday, 2 September 2009 7:02 PM > Cc: 'lilypond' &

RE: Lilypond Speed

2009-09-02 Thread Nick Payne
> -Original Message- > From: lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org > [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org] On > Behalf Of Michael David Crawford > Sent: Wednesday, 2 September 2009 1:39 AM > Cc: lilypond > Subject: Re: L

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-09-01 Thread Michael David Crawford
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: While LilyPond may be single threaded, in general the underlying operating system is multithreaded. It might be the case that a system call LilyPond depends on can get executed in a multithreaded way. LilyPond almost does not interact with the OS except for reading and

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-09-01 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Michael David Crawford wrote: > > > Peter Chubb wrote: >> >> Han-Wen> More importantly: LilyPond is single-threaded, so the number >> Han-Wen> of cores is irrelevant. > > While LilyPond may be single threaded, in general the underlying operating > system is multithr

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-09-01 Thread Michael David Crawford
Peter Chubb wrote: Han-Wen> More importantly: LilyPond is single-threaded, so the number Han-Wen> of cores is irrelevant. While LilyPond may be single threaded, in general the underlying operating system is multithreaded. It might be the case that a system call LilyPond depends on can get

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-31 Thread Peter Chubb
> "Han-Wen" == Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: Han-Wen> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Peter Han-Wen> Chubb wrote: >> I think you'll find the main difference is in size of L2/L3 cache, >> and amount of RAM.  Lily (like many object-oriented programs) tends >> to have quite a deep stack, and to use

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-31 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Peter Chubb wrote: > I think you'll find the main difference is in size of L2/L3 cache, > and amount of RAM.  Lily (like many object-oriented programs) tends to > have quite a deep stack, and to use lots of memory --- which it > visits in what looks to the processo

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-31 Thread Peter Chubb
> "Nick" == Nick Payne writes: Nick> As I have just had a rather powerful evaluation server to play Nick> around with for a few days while I tested our various Windows Nick> and Linux server builds on it, I thought I'd also take the Nick> opportunity to compare the build speed of a reasonably

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-31 Thread Nick Payne
As I have just had a rather powerful evaluation server to play around with for a few days while I tested our various Windows and Linux server builds on it, I thought I'd also take the opportunity to compare the build speed of a reasonably substantial score. I used Reinhold's setting of Reubke's son

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: > From: Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) > Subject: Re: Lilypond Speed > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 6:40 AM > Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > &

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Jonathan Wilkes wrote: It sounds like there is a wide discrepancy depending on machine/os/etc. Does anyone have any insight into how I could decrease this time on my winxp machine? I feel like if I could get it down to something close to one second, it would be a lot easier to learn Lilypond

Lilypond Speed (Jonathan Wilkes)

2009-08-28 Thread Frederick Dennis
Dear Jonathan, It takes me 11 seconds the first time, 4 seconds without a version number and 3 seconds with a version number. AMD Sempron 2500+ 1.4 GHz, 448MB of RAM Physical Address Extension Windows XP Professional Fred ___ lilypond-user mailing list li

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Freitag, 28. August 2009 schrieb Jonathan Wilkes: > It sounds like there is a wide discrepancy depending on machine/os/etc. > > Does anyone have any insight into how I could decrease this time on my > winxp machine? Half way through reading that sentence I wanted to say "install Linux". *d&h* -

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Tim Reeves
Hello, I'm curious how long it takes for other people to run lilypond on the following simple score: \relative c' { c4 d e fis } I'm on winxp sp3, pentium 1.7Ghz with 512mb ram and it consistently takes 7 seconds to complete, whether I do it on the command line or in LilypondTool. -Jo

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Federico Bruni
Wilbert Berendsen wrote: on a Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz : wilb...@sweelinck:~/ly/test$ echo "\\relative c' { c4 d e fis }" > test.ly wilb...@sweelinck:~/ly/test$ time lilypond test ok, this is the command I was looking for.. so... on a Intel Cor

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
using LilypondTool to set Lilypond to run every time I enter a barcheck? Thanks, Jonathan --- On Fri, 8/28/09, Thomas Scharkowski wrote: > From: Thomas Scharkowski > Subject: Re: Lilypond Speed > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org, "Jonathan Wilkes" > Date: Friday, August 28, 20

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op vrijdag 28 augustus 2009, schreef Federico Bruni: > Frescobaldi does not give me timing information. I just implemented this in SVN! ;-) best regards, Wilbert Berendsen -- Frescobaldi, LilyPond editor for KDE: http://www.frescobaldi.org/ Nederlands LilyPond forum: http://www.lilypondforum.nl/

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
I'm sure it is a little more, but not much ;-) Thomas Intel E6750 @ 2.66Ghz, 2 GM RAM Windows Xp SP3, LilyPondTool -- Processing `C:/LilyPondFiles/test/time.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... Preprocessing graphical objects... Solving 1 page-breaking chunks...[1: 1 pages] Drawing systems... L

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jonathan Wilkes Friday, August 28, 2009 5:45 PM Hello, I'm curious how long it takes for other people to run lilypond on the following simple score: \relative c' { c4 d e fis } I'm on winxp sp3, pentium 1.7Ghz with 512mb ram and it consistently takes 7 seconds to complete, whether I

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
on a Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz : wilb...@sweelinck:~/ly/test$ echo "\\relative c' { c4 d e fis }" > test.ly wilb...@sweelinck:~/ly/test$ time lilypond test GNU LilyPond 2.13.1 Verwerken van `test.ly' Ontleden... test.ly:0: warning: geen \version uitd

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Freitag, 28. August 2009 schrieb Jonathan Wilkes: > Hello, > I'm curious how long it takes for other people to run lilypond on the > following simple score: > > \relative c' { > c4 d e fis > } > > I'm on winxp sp3, pentium 1.7Ghz with 512mb ram and it consistently takes > 7 seconds to com

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread James E. Bailey
On 28.08.2009, at 19:35, Federico Bruni wrote: Jethro Van Thuyne wrote: On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'm curious how long it takes for other people to run lilypond on the following simple score: It took me 4,474 seconds How can you be so precise? :-) OSX has a time comm

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Jethro Van Thuyne
It took me 4,474 seconds on Debian, Intel Core2Duo T7250 @ 2.00GHz with 2GB ram. And with a version statement it takes 0,941 seconds... Jethro. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Jonathan, I'm curious how long it takes for other people to run lilypond on the following simple score: \relative c' { c4 d e fis } About 1.5 seconds on my MacBook 667GHz G5 w/1GB RAM. Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Federico Bruni
Jethro Van Thuyne wrote: On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'm curious how long it takes for other people to run lilypond on the following simple score: It took me 4,474 seconds How can you be so precise? :-) Frescobaldi does not give me timing information. If I type in a termin

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread James E. Bailey
On 28.08.2009, at 18:45, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hello, I'm curious how long it takes for other people to run lilypond on the following simple score: \relative c' { c4 d e fis } I'm on winxp sp3, pentium 1.7Ghz with 512mb ram and it consistently takes 7 seconds to complete, whethe

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Jethro Van Thuyne
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'm curious how long it takes for other people to run lilypond on the following simple score: It took me 4,474 seconds on winxp sp3, pentium 1.7Ghz with 512mb ram on Debian, Intel Core2Duo T7250 @ 2.00GHz with 2GB ram. Jethro. ___

Lilypond Speed

2009-08-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hello, I'm curious how long it takes for other people to run lilypond on the following simple score: \relative c' { c4 d e fis } I'm on winxp sp3, pentium 1.7Ghz with 512mb ram and it consistently takes 7 seconds to complete, whether I do it on the command line or in LilypondTool. -Jon

Re: Lilypond speed

2009-08-04 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/8/4 Graham Percival : > Why do people never believe me when I say that there's tons of > cool stuff we /could/ do, if only more people helped out? That's not my point. My point is to make sure that nothing potentially cool gets lost. > Of course, there's no point writing the sequel until th

Re: Lilypond speed

2009-08-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:42:15PM +0200, Valentin Villenave wrote: > 2009/8/4 Graham Percival : > > There you go: > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2005-11/msg00024.html > > This is huge! (I suspect I wasn't subscribed to -devel when this was > posted, otherwise I'd have notice

Re: Lilypond speed

2009-08-04 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/8/4 Graham Percival : > There you go: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2005-11/msg00024.html This is huge! (I suspect I wasn't subscribed to -devel when this was posted, otherwise I'd have noticed it). Even though there's clearly no magic recipe to speed up LilyPond (except

Re: Lilypond speed

2009-08-03 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:19 AM, hernan wrote: > My main frustration with Lilypond is speed. In my setup (Win-XP, P4 3.0Ghz, 1G > ram) to process a fairly simple scoresheet (2 or 3 pages) it takes about 8 > seconds. That might not seem a great deal, but it is really annoying when one > is > doing

Re: Lilypond speed

2009-08-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 12:10:18PM -0300, hernan gonzalez wrote: > >> I read in the main.cc source that the GUILE start-up is very time > >> consumming. I > >> wonder if some modification in the code could be done so that the GUILE > >> startup > >> occurs once for several compilation cycles, som

Re: Lilypond speed

2009-08-03 Thread hernan gonzalez
>> I read in the main.cc source that the GUILE start-up is very time >> consumming. I >> wonder if some modification in the code could be done so that the GUILE >> startup >> occurs once for several compilation cycles, something as (pseudocode) > > Yes, that's been done with the lilypond server.

Re: Lilypond speed

2009-08-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 12:19:28AM +, hernan wrote: > Is there some recipe to speed things up? Are the performance bottlenecks > identified? There are some minor tweaks you can do. I think they're currently listed in LM 5. "Speeding up typesetting" or something like that. > I read in the m

Lilypond speed

2009-08-02 Thread hernan
My main frustration with Lilypond is speed. In my setup (Win-XP, P4 3.0Ghz, 1G ram) to process a fairly simple scoresheet (2 or 3 pages) it takes about 8 seconds. That might not seem a great deal, but it is really annoying when one is doing lots of retouching (edit one bit, compile, see results, ed

Lilypond speed on Windows/Linux

2005-11-22 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
FYI: I have tested LilyPond 2.7.18 on Windows XP and Kanotix/Debian, same box (quite old), same file, same HD, both with jEdit: Windows: 52 seconds Linux: 27 seconds Thomas ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mai

Re: lilypond speed

2005-09-13 Thread Roman V. Isaev
On 09/12, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > Roman V. Isaev wrote: > > > > Well, I have it both ways. It's slow if I use cygwin, it's slow > >if I run it from cmd.exe prompt or drag a .ly file on its icon. > That's not the question. My question is whether you're using the > "Native" 2.6 binary (availabl

Re: lilypond speed

2005-09-12 Thread Bertalan Fodor
On some configuration I found that "initializing fontconfig" can take very much time, even if there are not many fonts. Bert ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: lilypond speed

2005-09-12 Thread Roman V. Isaev
On 09/12, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > >>> Well, I have it both ways. It's slow if I use cygwin, it's slow > >>>if I run it from cmd.exe prompt or drag a .ly file on its icon. > >>That's not the question. My question is whether you're using the > >>"Native" 2.6 binary (available from lilypond.org/we

Re: lilypond speed

2005-09-12 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Roman V. Isaev wrote: On 09/12, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Well, I have it both ways. It's slow if I use cygwin, it's slow if I run it from cmd.exe prompt or drag a .ly file on its icon. That's not the question. My question is whether you're using the "Native" 2.6 binary (available from

Re: lilypond speed

2005-09-12 Thread Roman V. Isaev
On 09/12, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > > Well, I have it both ways. It's slow if I use cygwin, it's slow > >if I run it from cmd.exe prompt or drag a .ly file on its icon. > That's not the question. My question is whether you're using the > "Native" 2.6 binary (available from lilypond.org/web/inst

Re: lilypond speed

2005-09-12 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Roman V. Isaev wrote: Well, I have it both ways. It's slow if I use cygwin, it's slow if I run it from cmd.exe prompt or drag a .ly file on its icon. That's not the question. My question is whether you're using the "Native" 2.6 binary (available from lilypond.org/web/install/ for the

Re: lilypond speed

2005-09-12 Thread Roman V. Isaev
On 09/12, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > > Why lilypond on windows is VERY slow?! It takes almost 30 seconds to > > complete > >something that compiles in less than a second on Fedora Core 4... I'm > >shocked. > >For some reasons I can't use Fedora at home and it's very annoying to wait > >so

Re: lilypond speed

2005-09-12 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Roman V. Isaev wrote: Why lilypond on windows is VERY slow?! It takes almost 30 seconds to complete something that compiles in less than a second on Fedora Core 4... I'm shocked. For some reasons I can't use Fedora at home and it's very annoying to wait so much for a little correction :(

lilypond speed

2005-09-12 Thread Roman V. Isaev
Why lilypond on windows is VERY slow?! It takes almost 30 seconds to complete something that compiles in less than a second on Fedora Core 4... I'm shocked. For some reasons I can't use Fedora at home and it's very annoying to wait so much for a little correction :( I thought lilypond is