Re: Messiaen-style ties?

2015-04-01 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Oops, X-extent forgotten, so here again: repeatTieExtend = #(define-music-function (parser location arg-repeat-tie-extend) (number?) #{ -\tweak X-extent #(cons (/ (+ arg-repeat-tie-extend 4) -1) 0) -\tweak details.note-head-gap #(/ arg-repeat-tie-extend -1) -\tweak

Re: Messiaen-style ties?

2015-04-01 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Trevor et All, How about: \version 2.18.2 extendRT = #(define-music-function (parser location arg-extend) (number?) #{ \once \override LaissezVibrerTie.X-extent = #'(0 . 0) \once \override LaissezVibrerTie.details.note-head-gap = #(/ arg-extend -1) \once \override

Re: Messiaen-style ties?

2015-04-01 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
... or even: \version 2.18.2 repeatTieExtend = #(define-music-function (parser location arg-repeat-tie-extend) (number?) #{ -\tweak X-extent #'(0 . 0) -\tweak details.note-head-gap #(/ arg-repeat-tie-extend -1) -\tweak extra-offset #(cons (/

Re: Messiaen-style ties?

2015-04-01 Thread Trevor Bača
Hi Pierre David, These solutions are quite amazing, and I've been able to make both work perfectly for what I want. I'll document my understanding below for later readers of thread trying to finesse results. First I had to go read about the \shape command from David's solution ...

Re: Messiaen-style ties?

2015-03-31 Thread Trevor Bača
Hi Kieren, Simon, Pierre, Abraham everyone, Just a follow up that using \repeatTie does definitely accomplish what I was looking for; I have it integrated into the score now and it's working in all configurations. A remaining question: I'm guessing there's not a way to lengthen repeat-ties?

Re: Messiaen-style ties?

2015-03-31 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Trevor, On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 9:08 PM, Trevor Bača trevorb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kieren, Simon, Pierre, Abraham everyone, Just a follow up that using \repeatTie does definitely accomplish what I was looking for; I have it integrated into the score now and it's working in all

Re: Messiaen-style ties?

2015-03-31 Thread David Nalesnik
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:53 PM, David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com wrote: The property 'minimum-length doesn't seem to have an effect Seems like it ought to... RepeatTie and LaissezVibrerTie as well. \override RepeatTie.minimum-length = #5 % does nothing alone \override

Re: Messiaen-style ties?

2015-03-22 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Simon, True, this gives quite the desired output, but it would make sense to have this as a 'style option to Tie rather than using different musical input in the first place. +1 So I’d support an enhancement tracker issue and will post this to ly-bug. Thanks for doing that. Best,

Messiaen-style ties?

2015-03-22 Thread Trevor Bača
Hi, Does anyone know how produce the style of ties used by Messiaen (or his publisher)? I've attached an image file taken from a first page of results given by Google images. The style of ties is unconventional because there are effectively no ties exiting tied notes (or chords); only ties

Re: Messiaen-style ties?

2015-03-22 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 22.03.2015 um 22:12 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi Trevor (et al.), (One last thought: Messiaen's notation might be conceptually equivalent to a type of reverse l.v. indication. That might help provide a name for the feature should it ever find its way into LilyPond.) Yes…

Re: Messiaen-style ties?

2015-03-22 Thread tisimst
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Re: Messiaen-style ties?

2015-03-22 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Trevor (et al.), (One last thought: Messiaen's notation might be conceptually equivalent to a type of reverse l.v. indication. That might help provide a name for the feature should it ever find its way into LilyPond.) Yes… LaissezVibrerTie.direction determines if the arc is up or down;

Re: Messiaen-style ties?

2015-03-22 Thread Simon Albrecht
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Re: Messiaen-style ties?

2015-03-22 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi All, 2015-03-22 22:12 GMT+01:00 Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca: Yes… LaissezVibrerTie.direction determines if the arc is up or down; there should be a LaissezVibrerTie.side (or x-direction or whatever) to determine which side the LVT appears on. Yep: \version 2.18.2 {

Re: Messiaen-style ties?

2015-03-22 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Pierre, f''4-\tweak head-direction #1 \laissezVibrer Nice! Ah, Lilypond… you are a never-ending source of secrets and surprises. =) Thanks, Kieren. ___ Kieren MacMillan, composer www: http://www.kierenmacmillan.info email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info

Re: Messiaen-style ties?

2015-03-22 Thread Trevor Bača
Hi everyone, Wow, thank you all so much. I hadn't realized the functionality already exists. Truly wonderful. Next time I'll take a better look at the docs, too. Thanks again. I'll be integrating now to see if I can use the functionality in the current score. Trevor. On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at