Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread Omer Katzir
Well, I gotta say. I feel the same as the writer. LP is powerful and extremely accurate. But some things are hard to find in the documents and I think that was the point of the writer. Sent from my iPhone > On 2 Dec 2018, at 17:34, Sandro Santilli wrote: > >> On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread Thomas Morley
Am So., 2. Dez. 2018 um 19:47 Uhr schrieb Sandro Santilli : > > On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 04:53:58PM +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > > > > The proposed _ly-syntax_ is > > \parenthesize > > \parenthesize #'left > > \parenthesize #'right > > No parens. > > To be honest I still find that syntax hard

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread David Kastrup
David Sumbler writes: > -Original Message- > From: msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca > To: David Sumbler > CC: David Kastrup , lilypond-user > Subject: Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond > Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2018 14:17:11 -0500 (EST) > > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018, David Sumbler

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread David Sumbler
-Original Message- From: msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca To: David Sumbler CC: David Kastrup , lilypond-user Subject: Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2018 14:17:11 -0500 (EST) On Sun, 2 Dec 2018, David Sumbler wrote: > > But MusiXTeX can do "if" stat

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread David Kastrup
Sandro Santilli writes: > On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 04:53:58PM +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: >> >> The proposed _ly-syntax_ is >> \parenthesize >> \parenthesize #'left >> \parenthesize #'right >> No parens. > > To be honest I still find that syntax hard to understand. > Replace the 3 with A B

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread mskala
On Sun, 2 Dec 2018, David Kastrup wrote: > Have you looked at tags? Please read my messages before responding to them. -- Matthew Skala msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca People before tribes. http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/ ___ lilypond-user mailing

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread David Kastrup
msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca writes: > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018, David Sumbler wrote: >> > But MusiXTeX can do "if" statements. > >> I felt that an "if" would be useful, so I eventually came up with: > > That is useful for conditional includes, but it can't be embedded in the > data structure that LilyPond

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread mskala
On Sun, 2 Dec 2018, David Sumbler wrote: > > But MusiXTeX can do "if" statements. > I felt that an "if" would be useful, so I eventually came up with: That is useful for conditional includes, but it can't be embedded in the data structure that LilyPond calls "music" and stores in variables. As

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 04:53:58PM +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > > The proposed _ly-syntax_ is > \parenthesize > \parenthesize #'left > \parenthesize #'right > No parens. To be honest I still find that syntax hard to understand. Replace the 3 with A B and C, how would the above code render

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread David Sumbler
-Original Message- From: David Kastrup To: msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca CC: lilypond-user Subject: Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2018 17:00:33 +0100 msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca writes: > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018, David Kastrup wrote: > > is hard. At least

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread David Kastrup
msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca writes: > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018, David Kastrup wrote: >> is hard. At least LilyPond is a better starting point than MusiXTeX. > > But MusiXTeX can do "if" statements. I have a hard time imagining how this is going to hold in a more convincing manner than you could do it

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread David Kastrup
Sandro Santilli writes: > On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 03:26:44PM +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: >> Am So., 2. Dez. 2018 um 14:01 Uhr schrieb Sandro Santilli : >> > >> > Very obscure way to put chords >> > in parenthesis (I asked yesterday). >> >> I beg to differ. > > Really ? And right after this

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread Thomas Morley
Am So., 2. Dez. 2018 um 16:34 Uhr schrieb Sandro Santilli : > > On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 03:26:44PM +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > > Am So., 2. Dez. 2018 um 14:01 Uhr schrieb Sandro Santilli : > > > > > > Very obscure way to put chords > > > in parenthesis (I asked yesterday). > > > > I beg to

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread mskala
On Sun, 2 Dec 2018, David Kastrup wrote: > is hard. At least LilyPond is a better starting point than MusiXTeX. But MusiXTeX can do "if" statements. -- Matthew Skala msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca People before tribes. http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 03:26:44PM +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > Am So., 2. Dez. 2018 um 14:01 Uhr schrieb Sandro Santilli : > > > > Very obscure way to put chords > > in parenthesis (I asked yesterday). > > I beg to differ. Really ? And right after this statement you post a 36 lines snippet of

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > Am So., 2. Dez. 2018 um 14:01 Uhr schrieb Sandro Santilli : >> >> On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 11:01:36AM +, J Martin Rushton wrote: >> >> > "LilyPond source files appear to be written in a custom programming >> > language whose grammar is never discussed." >> > - I'm

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread Thomas Morley
Am So., 2. Dez. 2018 um 14:01 Uhr schrieb Sandro Santilli : > > On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 11:01:36AM +, J Martin Rushton wrote: > > > "LilyPond source files appear to be written in a custom programming > > language whose grammar is never discussed." > > - I'm afraid this one is bang on target. >

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread Michael Gerdau
>http://www.alethis.net/reference/lily/lily.html Not being a native speaker the finer bashing of LP may have escaped me. The article obviously is old referring to 2.12 documentation and 2.10.something in the version statement of some examples. Not sure why I should be upset though. Kind

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 11:01:36AM +, J Martin Rushton wrote: > "LilyPond source files appear to be written in a custom programming > language whose grammar is never discussed." > - I'm afraid this one is bang on target. Hey, I have the exact same feeling. Very obscure way to put chords in

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread David Kastrup
J Martin Rushton writes: > On 02/12/18 11:31, David Kastrup wrote: >> J Martin Rushton writes: >> >>> I'm not sure the single critical paragraph is that unfair. I've turned >>> the tables on the reviewer and added my own comments as an amateur who >>> came to Lily only a few years ago. >> >>

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread J Martin Rushton
On 02/12/18 11:31, David Kastrup wrote: > J Martin Rushton writes: > >> I'm not sure the single critical paragraph is that unfair. I've turned >> the tables on the reviewer and added my own comments as an amateur who >> came to Lily only a few years ago. > > [...] > >> "LilyPond source files

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread David Kastrup
J Martin Rushton writes: > I'm not sure the single critical paragraph is that unfair. I've turned > the tables on the reviewer and added my own comments as an amateur who > came to Lily only a few years ago. [...] > "LilyPond source files appear to be written in a custom programming >

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread J Martin Rushton
I'm not sure the single critical paragraph is that unfair. I've turned the tables on the reviewer and added my own comments as an amateur who came to Lily only a few years ago. I did try to send a copy of this email to the company as a courtesy, but all company information on their website is

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-02 Thread David Kastrup
Reggie writes: > Has anyone else seen this do you know who the author is? Some complaints > about gibberish and documentation and God knows what else. Is this a joke > one or seriously critical of the program? Or in cheek. > http://www.alethis.net/reference/lily/lily.html Seems to me like an

Re: Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-01 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Reggie, It's not a review, it's a guide. There's one paragraph mentioning the documentation is difficult and it's well known that like UNIX manuals the NR is reference not tutorial. Besides he says this: "In spite of these difficulties, LilyPond is astoundingly powerful, and produces very

Not Nice Review of the LilyPond

2018-12-01 Thread Reggie
Has anyone else seen this do you know who the author is? Some complaints about gibberish and documentation and God knows what else. Is this a joke one or seriously critical of the program? Or in cheek. http://www.alethis.net/reference/lily/lily.html -- Sent from: