Re: Problem with repeats: stray bar line

2015-05-06 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 06.05.2015 um 01:21 schrieb Mark Stephen Mrotek: Tobias: My understanding, which is certainly limited, is that Lilypond reads the first alternate ending and sees only three beats and assumes that the second alternate starts (read not played) with the fourth beat. Again a case when a human

Re: Problem with repeats: stray bar line

2015-05-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
I correct myself: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/long-repeats.html#normal-repeats, at ‘Known issues and warnings’ has a remark about \unfoldRepeats (necessary for MIDI output) giving wrong results if measurePosition is set in an \alternative. This is probably the reason

Re: Problem with repeats: stray bar line

2015-05-05 Thread Tobias Braun
Btw: I'm of course getting the bar check warnings described under Known issues and warnings if I put \unfoldRepeats in my MIDI context. Not very nice at all, especially for such a relatively simple piece of music ... Am 06.05.2015 um 01:02 schrieb Simon Albrecht simon.albre...@mail.de:

Re: Problem with repeats: stray bar line

2015-05-05 Thread Tobias Braun
Ok, but the fix tells me to alter a global browser setting, which I may not want to after all. It says this is required To get automatic language selection. What I really want, however, is manual language selection. Isn't that what the language links at the bottom are for? Instead, I am getting

RE: Problem with repeats: stray bar line

2015-05-05 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
with repeats: stray bar line Yes, it does, thank you! But the docs tell me to use measureLength in some way. Is using measurePosition, as you suggested, just another way of doing the same thing? Or is my situation that much different from the docs so that a different property has to be modified

Re: Problem with repeats: stray bar line

2015-05-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
Indeed. I’ll make a bug report. Yours, Simon Am 06.05.2015 um 00:55 schrieb Tobias Braun: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/long-repeats.html Search for Timing.measureLength there. Am 06.05.2015 um 00:52 schrieb Simon Albrecht simon.albre...@mail.de: Am 06.05.2015 um

Re: Problem with repeats: stray bar line

2015-05-05 Thread Tobias Braun
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/long-repeats.html Search for Timing.measureLength there. Am 06.05.2015 um 00:52 schrieb Simon Albrecht simon.albre...@mail.de: Am 06.05.2015 um 00:46 schrieb Tobias Braun: So modifying measureLength, as suggested by the documentation,

Re: Problem with repeats: stray bar line

2015-05-05 Thread Tobias Braun
I tried both variants. Either of them seem to produce the bar check warnings. Am 06.05.2015 um 01:09 schrieb Simon Albrecht simon.albre...@mail.de: I correct myself: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/long-repeats.html#normal-repeats, at ‘Known issues and warnings’ has a

Re: Problem with repeats: stray bar line

2015-05-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
And, an obvious point: If you modify measureLength, you’d have to modify it again after the second alternative, else all following music (if there were any) would go on with 3/4 time (without a printed change of TimeSignature!). Am 05.05.2015 um 23:56 schrieb Tobias Braun: Yes, it does,

Re: Problem with repeats: stray bar line

2015-05-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 06.05.2015 um 00:46 schrieb Tobias Braun: So modifying measureLength, as suggested by the documentation, isn't a good idea after all? Shouldn't the documentation be updated accordingly then? In which place? Please give a link. ~ Simon ___

Re: Problem with repeats: stray bar line

2015-05-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
Well, in Lilypond we always try to represent the musical content appropriately, and contrary to what Steven suggested, the measure length doesn’t change here, only the second alternative ‘misses out one beat’ or starts at another measure position. So setting measurePosition is the way to go

RE: Problem with repeats: stray bar line

2015-05-05 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Tobias: Does this work? \version 2.18.2 \relative c' { \partial 4 \repeat volta 2 { c4 | c c c c | c c c } \repeat volta 2 { d4 | d d d d | } \alternative { { e4 e e } { \set Timing.measurePosition = #(ly:make-moment 1/4) f4 f f } } } Mark

RE: Problem with repeats: stray bar line

2015-05-05 Thread Steven Weber
Because you're in 4/4 and didn't tell Lilypond that the alternative bars were in 3/4. See http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/long-repeats for details on how to fix this. --Steven -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+panteck=hotmail@gnu.org

Re: Problem with repeats: stray bar line

2015-05-05 Thread Tobias Braun
Hi Steven, thanks for the reply. But I'm not really in 3/4 in those measures, am I? I mean, together with the partial measure at the very beginning, the alternative measures add up to 4/4 again, right? Unfolding all the repeats should give a proper 4/4 piece where the partial measure at the

Re: Problem with repeats: stray bar line

2015-05-05 Thread Tobias Braun
Yes, it does, thank you! But the docs tell me to use measureLength in some way. Is using measurePosition, as you suggested, just another way of doing the same thing? Or is my situation that much different from the docs so that a different property has to be modified? Tobias Am 05.05.2015 um