Re: Transposition

2018-01-10 Thread David Kastrup
Tom van der Hoeven writes: > Kieren and Noeck, > Thanks for the answers. > I worked already with the function \transpose and that works excellent. > My question concerned the use of the tag \transposition. > I wondered why it was used for two specific cases and not for the

Re: Transposition

2018-01-10 Thread Tom van der Hoeven
Kieren and Noeck, Thanks for the answers. I worked already with the function \transpose and that works excellent. My question concerned the use of the tag \transposition. I wondered why it was used for two specific cases and not for the general case. Given both answers it seems that I haven't

Re: Transposition

2018-01-09 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Tom, > I have a piece of music written in different transpositions. > I want to transform it to a piece in one transposition. Likely, a nice Scheme function or engraver could work that out for you. Unfortunately, that's beyond my [essentially non-existent] Scheme-fu… In the absence of

Re: Transposition

2018-01-09 Thread Noeck
Hi Tom, many people confuse \transposition with \transpose. They have different use cases. Hopefully, \transpose will help you: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/changing-multiple-pitches.html#transpose Cheers, Joram ___

RE: Transposition

2018-01-06 Thread mogens
I think you want \transpose http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/changing-multiple-pitches#transpose Regards, Mogens From: Tom van der Hoeven Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 13:16 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Transposition I have a piece of music written in different

Re: \transposition question

2017-09-01 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
So helps forcing the use of the « simplest » pitch, while I thought it was used to help forcing the use of the enharmonic one. Now I understand. Thanks Simon for this enlightenment, and a nice day! JM > Le 1 sept. 2017 à 12:31, Simon Albrecht a écrit : > > On

Re: \transposition question

2017-09-01 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 01.09.2017 12:09, Jacques Menu Muzhic wrote: Hello Simon, The 7 semitones are there anyways, since the markup is mandatory… Of course it is, else you’d never know if it’s horns in F or in F# (yes, there is such a thing). But in addition you have the information that it’s 5 diatonic

Re: \transposition question

2017-09-01 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
Hello Simon, The 7 semitones are there anyways, since the markup is mandatory… JM > Le 1 sept. 2017 à 10:23, Simon Albrecht a écrit : > > On 01.09.2017 09:35, Jacques Menu Muzhic wrote: >> But then, why is the markup present in MusicXML? > > A few days ago, in the

Re: \transposition question

2017-09-01 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 01.09.2017 09:35, Jacques Menu Muzhic wrote: But then, why is the markup present in MusicXML? A few days ago, in the Music Engraving Tips forum on Facebook, we had a discussion about why Čaikovskij spells what sounds a B major chord in the Horns in F as . In short: A# is very

Re: \transposition question

2017-09-01 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
...@fastmail.co.uk <mailto:gre...@fastmail.co.uk>> > To: Menu Jacques <imj-...@bluewin.ch <mailto:imj-...@bluewin.ch>> > Cc: Lilypond-usermailinglist <lilypond-user@gnu.org > <mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org>> > Bcc: > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 21:52:00 +0100 > Subj

Re: \transposition question

2017-08-31 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
-- Forwarded message -- > From: Gregrs <gre...@fastmail.co.uk> > To: Menu Jacques <imj-...@bluewin.ch> > Cc: Lilypond-usermailinglist <lilypond-user@gnu.org> > Bcc: > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 21:52:00 +0100 > Subject: Re: \transposition question

Re: \transposition question

2017-08-31 Thread Gregrs
On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 09:50:05PM +0200, Menu Jacques wrote: Hello folks, I’m trying to understand how \transposition works with enharmony. In the following, what key should be chosen (instead of D major) in the fourth score for a soon-to-be-created Trumpet in A#? For the Trumpet in Bb,

Re: \transposition question

2017-08-31 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 31.08.2017 21:50, Menu Jacques wrote: I’m trying to understand how \transposition works with enharmony. In the following, what key should be chosen (instead of D major) in the fourth score for a soon-to-be-created Trumpet in A#? I don’t get it. Technically, you could write Ebb major,

Re: \transposition does nothing?

2017-06-01 Thread Paul Scott
On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 07:33:33AM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi all, > > > I don't really like \transposeMidi . \concertPitch might be better > > +1 > > Kieren. +1 Paul ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: \transposition does nothing?

2017-06-01 Thread David Wright
On Thu 01 Jun 2017 at 09:06:11 (+0200), David Kastrup wrote: > Jacques Menu Muzhic writes: > > > Hello folks, > > > > This subject comes from time to time : maybe \transposeMidi would be a > > better name? > > It doesn't actually _transpose_ a given music sequence but

Re: \transposition does nothing?

2017-06-01 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, > I don't really like \transposeMidi . \concertPitch might be better +1 Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info ___ lilypond-user mailing

Re: \transposition does nothing?

2017-06-01 Thread Paul Scott
On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 07:50:28AM +0200, Jacques Menu Muzhic wrote: > Hello folks, > > This subject comes from time to time : maybe \transposeMidi would be a better > name? No. It also set transpositions for quoteDuring and cueDuring irrelevant of MIDI. Paul > > JM > > > Le 31 mai 2017 à

Re: \transposition does nothing?

2017-06-01 Thread David Kastrup
Jacques Menu Muzhic writes: > Hello folks, > > This subject comes from time to time : maybe \transposeMidi would be a > better name? It doesn't actually _transpose_ a given music sequence but sets the relation between printed and concert pitch from the moment it is

Re: \transposition does nothing?

2017-05-31 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
Hello folks, This subject comes from time to time : maybe \transposeMidi would be a better name? JM > Le 31 mai 2017 à 19:18, caag...@gmail.com a écrit : > > \transposition doesn't affect the generated score, it only affects the midi > output. To transpose the score, do \new Staff {

Re: \transposition does nothing?

2017-05-31 Thread caagr98
\transposition doesn't affect the generated score, it only affects the midi output. To transpose the score, do \new Staff { \transposition f \transpose f c {...} }. (In your case, the << >> can replace the inner {}.) On 05/31/17 19:09, Jérôme Plût wrote: I am typing a horn part in F. In the

Re: transposition problem

2015-11-08 Thread David Kastrup
Craig Dabelstein writes: > Hi David, > > I just realised that if "\partial 8" is added to the start of the global > variable that the build fails (see attached). Any ideas? There is no \partial 8 anywhere. -- David Kastrup

Re: transposition problem

2015-11-08 Thread Craig Dabelstein
Hi David, I just realised that if "\partial 8" is added to the start of the global variable that the build fails (see attached). Any ideas? Craig On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 at 11:45 Craig Dabelstein wrote: > Thanks David. I never would have worked that one out on my own!

Re: transposition problem

2015-11-08 Thread Craig Dabelstein
Thanks David. I never would have worked that one out on my own! Craig On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 at 09:26 David Kastrup wrote: > Craig Dabelstein writes: > > > Hi Lilyponders, > > > > I have a score where all key changes, tempo changes etc are in a global >

Re: transposition problem

2015-11-08 Thread David Kastrup
Craig Dabelstein writes: > Hi Lilyponders, > > I have a score where all key changes, tempo changes etc are in a global > variable, IN CONCERT PITCH. > > The first clarinet part has to change halfway through from Clarinet in Bb > to Clarinet in Eb. These notes are

Re: transposition problem

2015-11-08 Thread Craig Dabelstein
Apologies -- try this one. On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 at 12:14 David Kastrup wrote: > Craig Dabelstein writes: > > > Hi David, > > > > I just realised that if "\partial 8" is added to the start of the global > > variable that the build fails (see attached).

Re: Transposition Confusion

2015-10-30 Thread Thomas WillNot
Just to clarify, every instrument's line is showing up with two flats (the piece is in B flat major) so the non-transposing instruments are fine, but the others are not of course. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Transposition Confusion

2015-10-30 Thread Robert Schmaus
Hi Thomas, Right now, the lilypond site seems to be down, so can't give you any link, but just to clarify: The transposition command affects only midi output. From what I gather, you expect the Bb instruments to show up with no flats (as Bb instruments play C major if Bb major is the concert

RE: Transposition Confusion

2015-10-30 Thread Thomas Wilmot
. To: Thomas WillNot Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Transposition Confusion Hi Thomas, Right now, the lilypond site seems to be down, so can't give you any link, It certail but just to clarify: The transposition command affects only midi output. >From what I gather, you expect the

Re: Transposition Confusion

2015-10-30 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas WillNot <1137...@acadiau.ca> writes: > Here is an small example from the trumpet part of my score: > \version "2.18.2" > > \relative c''' { > > \transposition bes >\key bes \major > \time 2/2 > r4\f g-. d8-. c8-. g4-. > c4-. d4-. r2 > r4 g-. d8-.

RE: Transposition Confusion

2015-10-30 Thread Thomas Wilmot
> -Original Message- > From: David Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org] > Sent: Friday October 30, 2015 11:30 a.m. > To: Thomas WillNot > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Transposition Confusion > > > Thomas WillNot <1137...@acadiau.ca> writes: >

Re: Transposition of instruments

2015-01-27 Thread Helge Kruse
Am 27.01.2015 um 17:25 schrieb Marco Oros: I would like to write something for trumpet and clarinet and I know, that this musical instruments are tunned in various pitches, they can't use C-key, as for example notation for piano. So, It means, that I must write c-major song in as-major for

Re: transposition: entering parts in absolute pitch

2014-01-08 Thread David Kastrup
Tom Yates madhat...@teaparty.net writes: I apologise if this is a FAQ; I've gone back a few months in the archives and can't find anything that seems relevant, and I want to get my head straight before I do any more work on my arrangement. I'm arranging something for brass band, which means

Re: transposition: entering parts in absolute pitch

2014-01-08 Thread Tom Yates
On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, David Kastrup wrote: Which version of LilyPond are you using? In 2.17.13 the behavior was changed and is much simpler now. I am describing how this works now: GNU LilyPond 2.17.26, which is apparently handy! i'm sorry for not including that information earlier. You

Re: transposition: entering parts in absolute pitch

2014-01-08 Thread David Kastrup
Tom Yates madhat...@teaparty.net writes: On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, David Kastrup wrote: Which version of LilyPond are you using? In 2.17.13 the behavior was changed and is much simpler now. I am describing how this works now: GNU LilyPond 2.17.26, which is apparently handy! i'm sorry for not

Re: transposition: entering parts in absolute pitch

2014-01-08 Thread Tom Yates
On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, David Kastrup wrote: Tom Yates madhat...@teaparty.net writes: On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, David Kastrup wrote: You use \transposition to state the relation of printed to played music, regardless of whether you are entering in concert pitch or printed pitch. You use \transpose

RE: transposition not \relative in \transpose(d) music?

2011-03-30 Thread James Lowe
Hello, )-Original Message- )From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org )[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] On )Behalf Of Bernhard Ott )Sent: 30 March 2011 02:10 )To: LilyPond-User list )Subject: transposition not \relative in \transpose(d)

Re: Transposition with arrow quarter-tone notation

2011-02-18 Thread Keith OHara
Joseph Wakeling wrote: I've extended my 'cheat' a bit with the following rules (based on english.ly note names). qs = +999/4000 (as opposed to +1/4) af = -999/4000 (as opposed to -1/4) [...] This setup is aimed allow for a full arrow quarter-tone notation with arrows being preserved

Re: Transposition with arrow quarter-tone notation

2011-02-18 Thread Keith OHara
Joseph Wakeling wrote: This setup is aimed allow for a full arrow quarter-tone notation with arrows being preserved across all regular transpositions Suppose we use arrow notation to represent some just-intonation scheme, in which the 'up-arrow' alterations are some odd fraction : NATURAL

Re: Transposition with arrow quarter-tone notation

2011-02-18 Thread Keith OHara
Keith OHara k-ohara5a5a at oco.net writes: Anything larger than a semitone is reduced to an enharmonic equivalent using \naturalizeMusic. That's not ideal for notation including a sharp-up alteration. It works better for arrow notation if we change the test in the definition of

Re: transposition question

2010-11-17 Thread Christopher Meredith
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Alex Jones akj...@gmail.com wrote: I am using lilypond for a transposition solution. Unfortunately, when doing the transposition, the shift is to keys where it would make sense to write the notation in the enharmonic key. E.g. the new key is c-sharp major

Re: transposition question

2010-11-17 Thread jakob lund
why not just \transpose es des instead of es cis? (say if you're transposing from e-flat?) Jakob. 2010/11/17 Christopher Meredith chmered...@gmail.com: On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Alex Jones akj...@gmail.com wrote: I am using lilypond for a transposition solution.  Unfortunately, when

Re: transposition question

2010-11-17 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 17 November 2010 22:15, Christopher Meredith chmered...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, just transpose it to des instead of cis and set the key accordingly. Agree. There is also a snippet in the doc, which can be useful: Transposing pitches with minimum accidentals (Smart transpose)

Re: Transposition with arrow quarter-tone notation

2009-06-11 Thread fenevad
I'm rather late to this discussion, but it describes something quite similar to my need. I'm working with music from Central Europe where there is an established tradition of two levels of accidentals that correspond quote closely to what Joseph arrived at. The only real difference is glyphic. In

Re: \transposition normalized

2008-06-20 Thread Jay Anderson
Here's a little snippet which does what I want. If there's a standard way to do this let me know. -Jay \version 2.11.49 #(define (adjust-note mus key currkey) (cond ((eq? (ly:music-property mus 'name) 'NoteEvent) (ly:music-transpose mus (car currkey))) ((and

Re: Transposition

2007-11-30 Thread Thomas Bonte
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Transpose#Transpose If you want more help, please provide your ly code. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Transposition-tf4915983.html#a14088911 Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at

Re: transposition and midi

2005-01-05 Thread Mats Bengtsson
D Josiah Boothby wrote: So \override Staff.KeySignature = ##t just hides the key signature, but leaves accidentals out (unless they fall outside of the key). Why ask on the mailing list when it's trivial to tests it yourself and see what happens? Should I be playing with automatic accidentals,

Re: transposition and midi

2005-01-04 Thread Mats Bengtsson
The table of contents of the users manual includes two sections with titles including transpose or transposition. Make sure to read both of them. /Mats D Josiah Boothby wrote: Using 2.4.2, I'd like to be able to transpose a part, create a midi file, and create the graphical output. The midi

Re: transposition and midi

2005-01-04 Thread Mats Bengtsson
The syntax of the \transpose command is \transpose from to music In other words, it only applies to the expression directly after the \transpose command. In your example you only transpose the \override command (which of course doesn't have any effect at all). If you want to transpose the

Re: transposition and midi

2005-01-04 Thread D Josiah Boothby
ahh, ok, thank you! josiah On Tue, 4 Jan 2005, Mats Bengtsson wrote: The syntax of the \transpose command is \transpose from to music In other words, it only applies to the expression directly after the \transpose command. In your example you only transpose the \override command (which of course

Re: transposition and midi

2005-01-04 Thread D Josiah Boothby
So \override Staff.KeySignature = ##t just hides the key signature, but leaves accidentals out (unless they fall outside of the key). Should I be playing with automatic accidentals, or is transparency not the right way to go? Josiah On Tue, 4 Jan 2005, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Also, the setting

Re: transposition, incipit and key signature

2002-09-17 Thread Rune Zedeler
Quoting David Raleigh Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Rune \version 1.6.3 Rune \score { Rune \notes \transpose c'' { Rune \key f \major c4*1/2 Rune \once \property Staff.KeySignature = \turnOff \key c \major s8 Rune \transpose d' { \key f \major c4

Re: transposition, incipit and key signature

2002-09-17 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:55:29 Rune Zedeler wrote: Quoting David Raleigh Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Rune \version 1.6.3 Rune \score { Rune \notes \transpose c'' { Rune \key f \major c4*1/2 Rune \once \property Staff.KeySignature = \turnOff