Am 23.07.2014 23:08, schrieb tisimst:
BTW, I've tried contacting Torsten again to see if he has a licensing
preference for LilyJAZZ and LilyJAZZText (OFL, GPL, or whatever). Waiting to
hear back now, though based on others' comments, he may be out of reach
since last year.
Yes, that seems to be
Keith OHara wrote
> Torsten Hämmerle
>
> web.de> writes:
>
>> I've attached a zip file containing the current (albeit unfinished)
>> versions of the LilyJAZZ music and LilyJAZZ Text font plus the
>> corresponding LilyJAZZ.ily include.
>
>> The main obstacle is the rigid way Lilypond handles
Torsten Hämmerle web.de> writes:
> I've attached a zip file containing the current (albeit unfinished)
> versions of the LilyJAZZ music and LilyJAZZ Text font plus the
> corresponding LilyJAZZ.ily include.
> The main obstacle is the rigid way Lilypond handles its (her, his?)
> internal music
On 14 March 2013 11:36, "Torsten Hämmerle" wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I've just noticed the my last mail didn't get through to the list for some
> reason. Well, here it is again in a second attempt:
>
> In the first place: I've attached a zip file containing the current (albeit
> unfinished) versions
There are a couple of peculiar side effects. I find that using this turns off
the bar count engraver and it also defeats \improvisationOn resulting in
regular notes instead of parallelogram note heads. The easy workaround is to
use \jazzOff before \improvisationOn. The appearance of the stems
Le jeudi 14/03/13 à 11h36,
"Torsten Hämmerle" a écrit :
> here it is again in a second attempt:In the first place: I've
> attached a zip file containing the current (albeit unfinished)
> versions of the LilyJAZZ music and LilyJAZZ Text font plus the
> corresponding LilyJAZZ.ily include.As an exam
Henning Hraban Ramm writes:
> No, the look of a font isn’t copyrighted, but the name is sometimes a
> trademark - that’s why a lot of lookalikes exist whose names point to
> the original, like "Zurich" or "Swiss" for "Helvetica".
http://design-milk.com/images/2011/02/my-name-is-helvetica.jpg
--
Henning Hraban Ramm writes:
> But some even use (more or less) the same metrics, like URW Nimbus
> Sans [...]
Using the same metrics is on purpose, so the font can be used as a
free drop-in replacement for the original but copyrighted font.
-- Johan
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Am 2013-03-16 um 00:29 schrieb Martin Tarenskeen:
>> Am 2013-03-15 um 10:06 schrieb TaoCG:
>>
>>> This is all very interesting, I'd love to have a jazz style font in
>>> LilyPond,
>>> though I don't particularly like the Sigler Jazz font. I much prefer their
>>> Swing font.
>>> I was still wonde
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
Am 2013-03-15 um 10:06 schrieb TaoCG:
This is all very interesting, I'd love to have a jazz style font in LilyPond,
though I don't particularly like the Sigler Jazz font. I much prefer their
Swing font.
I was still wondering if there won't be a
On Mar 15, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:
> On Mar 15, 2013, at 4:52 AM, Robert Schmaus wrote:
>
>> Hi Torsten,
>>
>> first of all: This looks just amazing! Thanks for sharing it!
>> Even though I like LilyPond's original typesetting a lot, I noticed that
>> sheets get more difficult to
Am 15.03.2013 16:49, schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
Hi all,
On 2013-Mar-15, at 11:42, Urs Liska wrote:
AFAIK the only way (except creating a pango-font-ree) is to redefine
booktitlemarkup and/or scoretitlemarkup from scratch to be able to access the
font settings for these items (as \markups)
Um
Hi all,
On 2013-Mar-15, at 11:42, Urs Liska wrote:
> AFAIK the only way (except creating a pango-font-ree) is to redefine
> booktitlemarkup and/or scoretitlemarkup from scratch to be able to access the
> font settings for these items (as \markups)
Um… doesn't everyone do this for all their sco
Am 15.03.2013 16:38, schrieb Tim McNamara:
On Mar 15, 2013, at 4:52 AM, Robert Schmaus wrote:
Hi Torsten,
first of all: This looks just amazing! Thanks for sharing it!
Even though I like LilyPond's original typesetting a lot, I noticed that
sheets get more difficult to read in certain lightin
On Mar 15, 2013, at 4:52 AM, Robert Schmaus wrote:
> Hi Torsten,
>
> first of all: This looks just amazing! Thanks for sharing it!
> Even though I like LilyPond's original typesetting a lot, I noticed that
> sheets get more difficult to read in certain lighting conditions (I
> assume you are a j
Am 2013-03-15 um 10:06 schrieb TaoCG:
> This is all very interesting, I'd love to have a jazz style font in LilyPond,
> though I don't particularly like the Sigler Jazz font. I much prefer their
> Swing font.
> I was still wondering if there won't be any license issues if the font is
> redrawn ma
Hi Torsten,
first of all: This looks just amazing! Thanks for sharing it!
Even though I like LilyPond's original typesetting a lot, I noticed that
sheets get more difficult to read in certain lighting conditions (I
assume you are a jazz musician as well and know what I mean ...).
Especially for th
This is all very interesting, I'd love to have a jazz style font in LilyPond,
though I don't particularly like the Sigler Jazz font. I much prefer their
Swing font.
I was still wondering if there won't be any license issues if the font is
redrawn manually since in the end everyone familiar with the
On Mar 14, 2013, at 5:36 AM, Torsten Hämmerle wrote:
>
> BUT: Even if all this may be quite an ambitious task, I just started off to
> see what's possible and how Lilypond behaves in a jazz context. Fortunately,
> the results look quite encouraging. :)
This is very intriguing as a jazz player a
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:59 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
> "Torsten Hämmerle" writes:
>
>> I'm just happy that in the meantime some "main actors" as David or
>> even Jan seem to acknowledge the fact that Lilypond would certainly
>> benefit from being able to produce "jazz output".
>
> It's not "just
Am 14.03.2013 15:38, schrieb David Kastrup:
> Note spacing, beaming (!), system brackets and a few other things give
> it away. The beaming is probably the worst offender regarding style
> consistency.
Would it be possible to use Bezier curves instead of straight lines for
the beams? Some slight
Janek Warchoł writes:
> Hi Torsten,
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:36 AM, "Torsten Hämmerle"
> wrote:
>> I've attached a zip file containing the current (albeit
>> unfinished) versions of the LilyJAZZ music and LilyJAZZ Text font plus the
>> corresponding LilyJAZZ.ily include.
>> As an example t
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. März 2013 um 14:59 Uhr
Von: "David Kastrup" It's not "just" Jazz. This is pretty much par for the course for
Barbershop and quite a few other forms of vocal harmony.
Interestingly, not for pop music. I also don't think it is used much
for piano or other vertical
Hi Torsten,
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:36 AM, "Torsten Hämmerle"
wrote:
> I've attached a zip file containing the current (albeit
> unfinished) versions of the LilyJAZZ music and LilyJAZZ Text font plus the
> corresponding LilyJAZZ.ily include.
> As an example to demonstrate what's already there
[please use plain text for your e-mails]
> > What do you mean with `rigid'?
>
> Some things related to Feta/Emmentaler access are still being
> handled deep inside non-public scheme coding or even C source code
> and consequently very hard to tweak.
Please open bug reports about those issues.
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. März 2013 um 11:53 Uhr
Von: "David Kastrup"
> I think what we want to arrive at is a way to drop in music fonts into
> LilyPond in a tolerable workable way. I think that we can't avoid at>
first the necessity of having the font, if not its glyphs, at least its>
"Torsten Hämmerle" writes:
> I'm just happy that in the meantime some "main actors" as David or
> even Jan seem to acknowledge the fact that Lilypond would certainly
> benefit from being able to produce "jazz output".
It's not "just" Jazz. This is pretty much par for the course for
Barbershop a
Hi Werner,> What do you mean with `rigid'?
Some things related to Feta/Emmentaler access are still being handled deep inside non-public scheme coding or even C source code and consequently very hard to tweak.Amongst the most "stubborn" stencils are multi measure rests where the glyph names are asse
2013/3/14 David Kastrup :
> We currently have three music fonts of more than marginal interest:
> LilyPond's own Feta (?), ...
Emmentaler. Of which Feta and Parmesan are subsets.
But Parmesan is only for ancient, and Feta includes braces and
everything, so I guess we can keep calling the standard
> In the first place: I've attached a zip file containing the current
> (albeit unfinished) versions of the LilyJAZZ music and LilyJAZZ Text
> font plus the corresponding LilyJAZZ.ily include.
Very impressive!
> The main obstacle is the rigid way Lilypond handles its (her, his?)
> internal music
Hi Torsten,
thank you very much for your work. This is great!
While I probably won't use it ever for myself, I find that an extremely
useful addition to LilyPond, and I hope you will get enough assistance
to get it into LilyPond's default distribution.
Best
Urs
Am 14.03.2013 11:36, schrieb
"Torsten Hämmerle" writes:
> So finally: what have I done and why? The main obstacle is the rigid
> way Lilypond handles its (her, his?) internal music font. I
> deliberately decided to stick to an "ordinary" OTF/TTF font first to
> learn how to use external fonts (who knows what it's good for)
1:50 Uhr
Von: "Xavier Scheuer"
An: "Thomas Morley"
Cc: "David Kastrup" , lilypond-user@gnu.org
Betreff: Re: Pseudo-handwritten font
On 7 March 2013 21:52, Thomas Morley wrote:
>
> Earlier this day I informed the Aut
On 7 March 2013 21:52, Thomas Morley wrote:
>
> Earlier this day I informed the Author of it in the DLF (the german
> LilyPond-Forum).
> He answered already, reporting having made a lot of improvements and
> posting a new image.
> Though, no code, perhaps he will post the code here or in DLF, don'
2013/3/7 Marc Hohl :
> Am 07.03.2013 10:44, schrieb Werner LEMBERG:
>
Wow, very impressive!
>>>
>>> I hate to admit it,
>>
>> Hehe :-)
>>
>>> but it looks like a game changer of strategic importance to me.
I hope that this extension will find its way into the official
lilypond r
Am 07.03.2013 10:44, schrieb Werner LEMBERG:
Wow, very impressive!
I hate to admit it,
Hehe :-)
but it looks like a game changer of strategic importance to me.
I hope that this extension will find its way into the official
lilypond releases...
What needs to be done for this?
I don't know,
Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes:
> I put quite some effort in supporting Gonville as an external
> font, as at the time it took 5+ hours to build it and we did
> not want to ship a font binary-only.
Which is very much appreciated. As a user on Linux I do indeed change
between feta and gonville, easy eno
David Kastrup writes:
>> Wow, very impressive!
>
> I hate to admit it, but it looks like a game changer of strategic
> importance to me. People tend to pick LilyPond to get the best
> typesetting.
Yes. Wow.
> What needs to be done for this?
I put quite some effort in supporting Gonville as an
It looks very good.
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:39 AM, David Kastrup wrote:
> Marc Hohl writes:
>
>> Am 07.03.2013 00:45, schrieb Thomas Morley:
>>> 2013/3/6 Shane Brandes :
there was a jazz font patch somewhile ago.
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-12/msg00290.html
>
>> Wow, very impressive!
>
> I hate to admit it,
Hehe :-)
> but it looks like a game changer of strategic importance to me.
>> I hope that this extension will find its way into the official
>> lilypond releases...
>
> What needs to be done for this?
A good question. Do you have a contact e-
Marc Hohl writes:
> Am 07.03.2013 00:45, schrieb Thomas Morley:
>> 2013/3/6 Shane Brandes :
>>> there was a jazz font patch somewhile ago.
>>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-12/msg00290.html
>> There is some currently unfinished work in the german forum.
>> http://www.lilypo
Am 07.03.2013 00:45, schrieb Thomas Morley:
2013/3/6 Shane Brandes :
there was a jazz font patch somewhile ago.
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-12/msg00290.html
There is some currently unfinished work in the german forum.
http://www.lilypondforum.de/index.php?topic=1218.0
B
2013/3/6 Shane Brandes :
> there was a jazz font patch somewhile ago.
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-12/msg00290.html
There is some currently unfinished work in the german forum.
http://www.lilypondforum.de/index.php?topic=1218.0
But you need an account there to get the att
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Tim Roberts wrote:
> I had it in my brain that Lilypond had a simple switch to enable the
> pseudo-handwritten font and engraving style that one often sees in jazz and
> stage band music, but after a lengthy search last night, I now wonder if
> I was hallucinatin
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Tim Roberts wrote:
> I had it in my brain that Lilypond had a simple switch to enable the
> pseudo-handwritten font and engraving style that one often sees in jazz and
> stage band music, but after a lengthy search last night, I now wonder if I
> was hallucinating.
there was a jazz font patch somewhile ago.
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-12/msg00290.html
Shane
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Tim Roberts wrote:
> I had it in my brain that Lilypond had a simple switch to enable the
> pseudo-handwritten font and engraving style that one
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