Re: Use of \vspace and \hspace

2019-02-12 Thread Trevor Bača
Hi Andrew (and hi Valentin, nice to see you on the list again!), I'm with you in the animating spirit of your observations about spacing (especially horizontal spacing). Proportional spacing (which I helped Han-Wen scope when he implemented it more than a decade ago) is very powerful indeed. But

Re: Re[4]: Use of \vspace and \hspace

2019-01-20 Thread Valentin Villenave
On 1/20/19, Trevor wrote: > You're right; because \markup can be used in so many different places > and ways a new unnumberedsubsection devoted to it is probably the > best way to give an overview. Specific examples can then appear anywhere > else in the manual, like it does in the snippet in

Re[4]: Use of \vspace and \hspace

2019-01-20 Thread Trevor
Valentin, you wrote 20/01/2019 18:12:07 On 1/20/19, Trevor wrote: "Text markup introduction" in Section 1.8.2 looks like the obvious place. Well, not exactly. As the introduction to "Formatting text", it describes what markup mode is, but not _where_ or _why_ markup blocks exist. (Hence

Re: Use of \vspace and \hspace

2019-01-20 Thread Valentin Villenave
On 1/20/19, Andrew Bernard wrote: > although an experienced user, I just lack something fundamental > understanding lilypond internals that leaves me permanently flummoxed. For > example, when to use extra-spacing-width, which always eludes me until I > post to the list. I can relate. But I’m

Re: Re[2]: Use of \vspace and \hspace

2019-01-20 Thread Valentin Villenave
On 1/20/19, Trevor wrote: > "Text markup introduction" in Section 1.8.2 looks like the obvious > place. Well, not exactly. As the introduction to "Formatting text", it describes what markup mode is, but not _where_ or _why_ markup blocks exist. (Hence the OP’s question.) That separate question

Re: Use of \vspace and \hspace

2019-01-20 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Valentin, I was led to muse just today that almost all the recent questions on lilypond are about spacing and tweaking positions of some sort or other. [Well, I suppose you could argie that engraving is only about spacing objects and nothing else anyway!] With no disrespect to any

Re[2]: Use of \vspace and \hspace

2019-01-20 Thread Trevor
Hi Valentin, you wrote Well put! I’ve added a few additional objects and turned it into a snippet: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=1084 This could be a nice addition to the NR itself (not sure exactly where, but I’ll have to look into it) "Text markup introduction" in Section 1.8.2 looks

Re: Use of \vspace and \hspace

2019-01-20 Thread Valentin Villenave
On 1/20/19, Aaron Hill wrote: > \markup may additionally be used for lyrics, in chord names, and as > dynamics. In fact, it is possible to use \markup to customize the > appearance of virtually any object: Well put! I’ve added a few additional objects and turned it into a snippet:

Re: Use of \vspace and \hspace

2019-01-19 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2019-01-19 8:55 am, Valentin Villenave wrote: You can use a \markup block in any TextScript object (attached to notes with -, ^ or _), any \mark or at the top level, outside of any \score block. \markup may also (obviously) be user in any definition inside the \header block (e.g. title,

Re: Use of \vspace and \hspace

2019-01-19 Thread Valentin Villenave
On 1/19/19, Mr Tim wrote: > I go to the docs at > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/formatting-text > and it tells me about what can go inside, but does not tell me in what > context \markup can be used. That’s the previous subsection:

Re: Use of \vspace and \hspace

2019-01-19 Thread Mr Tim
wrote: > Mr Tim writes: > > > I am really confused on where I can and cannot use the \vspace and > > \hspace. > > They are markup commands. They can only appear inside of markup and > markup lists. > > -- > David Kastrup > __

Re: Use of \vspace and \hspace

2019-01-19 Thread David Kastrup
Mr Tim writes: > I am really confused on where I can and cannot use the \vspace and > \hspace. They are markup commands. They can only appear inside of markup and markup lists. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@g

Use of \vspace and \hspace

2019-01-19 Thread Mr Tim
I am really confused on where I can and cannot use the \vspace and \hspace. I've seen them inside \column expressions, is that the only place they can be? Reading the documentation does not help me at all. So I see it inside \markup { }. Well, then where can I put \markup? If markup has