Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-29 Thread Graham Percival
On 29-Jul-05, at 2:45 PM, Sven Axelsson wrote: No, it is a feature. Remember that TeX was originally intented to produce printed output only. *grumble* I still think that verbatim should mean verbatim... :) Graham, Is the documentation generated through LaTeX with Texinfo rather than Plai

Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-29 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
Laura Conrad wrote: >> "GP" == Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > GP> On 29-Jul-05, at 1:15 PM, Graham Percival wrote: >>> Isn't it just a matter of using the LaTeX \begin{verbatim} >>> environment for the @lilypond[verbatim] texinfo stuff? > > GP> No, apparently not. Never

RE: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-29 Thread Sven Axelsson
> From: Laura Conrad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > "GP" == Graham Percival <> writes: > > GP> On 29-Jul-05, at 1:15 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > >> Isn't it just a matter of using the LaTeX \begin{verbatim} > >> environment for the @lilypond[verbatim] texinfo stuff? > > GP

Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-29 Thread Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence
Thank you that is exactly what I was thinking about. I had no idea that cutting and pasting from PDF would not result in exact duplication in ascii, so a warning is warranted. Noodig eigenlijk. Jay Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: I guess the real argument is, clean up the documentation so that all e

Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-29 Thread Laura Conrad
> "GP" == Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: GP> On 29-Jul-05, at 1:15 PM, Graham Percival wrote: >> Isn't it just a matter of using the LaTeX \begin{verbatim} >> environment for the @lilypond[verbatim] texinfo stuff? GP> No, apparently not. Never mind... what a stup

Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-29 Thread Graham Percival
On 29-Jul-05, at 1:15 PM, Graham Percival wrote: Isn't it just a matter of using the LaTeX \begin{verbatim} environment for the @lilypond[verbatim] texinfo stuff? No, apparently not. Never mind... what a stupid LaTeX bug! Doesn't verbatim mean _verbatim_ ?! - Graham _

Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-29 Thread Graham Percival
On 29-Jul-05, at 4:48 AM, Sven Axelsson wrote: This is out of our control. The fonts that TeX uses might put quotes in an entirely different place than what is customary. Not totally out of control. Use a latin1-encoded font for the normal text and make sure TeX doesn't do special substitutio

RE: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-29 Thread Fairchild
AM To: Fairchild Cc: 'Bec and John'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added? Fairchild wrote: > Overwhelming and convincing argument. I would like to see the argument for the opposite, since there are so m

Re: Character substitutions in cut+paste [WAS:] What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-29 Thread dax2
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:48:13 +0200 Sven wrote: > > Not totally out of control. Use a latin1-encoded font for the > normal text and make sure TeX doesn't do special substitution of > single quotes and double dashes in the examples. > > But maybe that is too much work. Maybe you know more about

RE: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-29 Thread Sven Axelsson
> From: Han-Wen Nienhuys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sven Axelsson wrote: > >>From: Han-Wen Nienhuys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >>I think the proper thing is to add a note to the PDF docs > that people > >>should not expect cutting & pasting from the PDF to work. > PDF is made > >>fo

Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-29 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Sven Axelsson wrote: From: Han-Wen Nienhuys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the proper thing is to add a note to the PDF docs that people should not expect cutting & pasting from the PDF to work. PDF is made for getting accurate printout, not for transporting ascii text. While I agree wit

RE: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-29 Thread Sven Axelsson
> From: Han-Wen Nienhuys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I think the proper thing is to add a note to the PDF docs that people > should not expect cutting & pasting from the PDF to work. PDF is made > for getting accurate printout, not for transporting ascii text. While I agree with that in gene

Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-29 Thread dax2
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:34:45 +0200 Sven wrote: > > I guess the real argument is, clean up the documentation so > that all examples actually work when cut-and-pasted. They do, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the examples. The problem is the software for cut and paste or maybe the generat

Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-29 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Sven Axelsson wrote: Wouldn't that break a lot of existing markup? For instance having title = "Look "A Quoted String"" in the header. And how about when we actually want the en- or em-dash? Now that Lilypond correctly uses the full Unicode character set I certainly see no reason to arbitrary li

RE: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-29 Thread Sven Axelsson
> -Original Message- > From: Han-Wen Nienhuys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: den 29 juli 2005 10:51 > To: Fairchild > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lilypond-user@gnu.org > Subject: Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi > output added? > > Fairc

Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-29 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
c and John'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added? Fairchild wrote: be fixed to accept all single quote characters interchangeably? no. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://w

Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-29 Thread dax2
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 19:23:54 -0700 Jay wrote: > I did use text mode cut and paste from the pdf and that's where > the problem came from. > AND I need to check out the archive too. Aha! When you use a PDF file you are using something which has passed through LaTeX or tetex or pdftex (I am not an e

Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-28 Thread Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence
D-- & John I did use text mode cut and paste from the pdf and that's where the problem came from. AND I need to check out the archive too. Thanks Jay Bec and John wrote: Hi Dax2, I use the PDF manual rather than the web browser. The archive is a great idea. If I may recommend, it'd be nice

Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-28 Thread Bec and John
Hi Dax2,I use the PDF manual rather than the web browser.The archive is a great idea. If I may recommend, it'd be nice if you could browse by topic - as the archive grows it'll be unreasonable to just go through a long list (it's already very long).- JohnOh! Now I can see what example was used here

RE: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-28 Thread Fairchild
the least input into a score to get midi output added? Fairchild wrote: > be fixed to accept all single quote characters interchangeably? no. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mai

Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-28 Thread dax2
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:03:59 -0400 Bec wrote: > I just tried the "Notes only" template and got an error that I > commonly get when I copy and paste from the Lilypond manual - it > doesn't like the " ’ " character that is in the manual. I have to > manually delete them and reinsert " ' ". The

Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-28 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Fairchild wrote: be fixed to accept all single quote characters interchangeably? no. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/list

Re: Bad sourcefont [WAS:]What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-28 Thread dax2
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:08:33 -0500 Fairchild wrote: > Or, better, can Lily be fixed to accept all single > quote characters interchangeably? That is not a good idea IMHO. Single quotes beyond the standard ' are not widespread common heritage. 0x92 did not show up as a single quote in my softwa

RE: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-28 Thread Fairchild
ED]Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org listSubject: Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added? Hi Jim, I just tried the "Notes only" template and got an error that I commonly get when I copy and paste from the Lilypond manual - it doesn't like the &

Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-28 Thread Paul Scott
Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote: YES! That's problem/issue/solution thanks- I did get it to work after that correction. Hooray. Jay Bec and John wrote: Hi Jim, I just tried the "Notes only" template and got an error that I commonly get when I copy and paste from the Lilypond manual

Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-28 Thread Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence
YES! That's problem/issue/solution thanks- I did get it to work after that correction. Hooray. Jay Bec and John wrote: Hi Jim, I just tried the "Notes only" template and got an error that I commonly get when I copy and paste from the Lilypond manual - it doesn't like the " ’ " character th

Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-27 Thread Bec and John
Hi Jim,I just tried the "Notes only" template and got an error that I commonly get when I copy and paste from the Lilypond manual - it doesn't like the " ’ " character that is in the manual. I have to manually delete them and reinsert " ' ". Then it typesets fine. Below is the "Notes only" template

Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-27 Thread Paul Scott
Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote: When I copy and paste from the first template example and then copy and paste my chosen notes I get error: syntax error, unexpected STRING \new Staff \melody When I delete those parts I get A lovely pdf file no error messages and no midi even

Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-27 Thread Graham Percival
On 27-Jul-05, at 6:23 PM, Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote: When I copy and paste from the first template example and then copy and paste my chosen notes I get error: syntax error, unexpected STRING \new Staff \melody Please copy the entire example. When I delete those part

Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-27 Thread Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence
When I copy and paste from the first template example and then copy and paste my chosen notes I get error: syntax error, unexpected STRING \new Staff \melody When I delete those parts I get A lovely pdf file no error messages and no midi even though I now have at the end \score { \

Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-27 Thread Graham Percival
On 27-Jul-05, at 3:00 PM, Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote: I've been reading the manual (2.6.1) I've looked at examples But if all I want is the simple single line score, a pdf and midi output what is the least I need to add? It looks like I have to add lines and lines of stuff just to a

What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?

2005-07-27 Thread Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence
Hello- I've been reading the manual (2.6.1) I've looked at examples But if all I want is the simple single line score, a pdf and midi output what is the least I need to add? It looks like I have to add lines and lines of stuff just to add the midi out. Maybe, I hope, I'm wrong? Thanks. Jay --