Re: Fwd: autochange and tuplet brackets

2013-12-20 Thread Urs Liska
Am 20.12.2013 08:33, schrieb Simon Bailey: is this a bug or just unexpected behaviour on a border-case which doesn't occur in real music?;) Well, it _does_ occur in real music, as you have shown us. ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Fwd: autochange and tuplet brackets

2013-12-20 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes: Am 20.12.2013 08:33, schrieb Simon Bailey: is this a bug or just unexpected behaviour on a border-case which doesn't occur in real music?;) Well, it _does_ occur in real music, as you have shown us. The smiley would appear to indicate he has been

Re: Fwd: autochange and tuplet brackets

2013-12-20 Thread Simon Bailey
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 9:55 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes: Am 20.12.2013 08:33, schrieb Simon Bailey: is this a bug or just unexpected behaviour on a border-case which doesn't occur in real music?;) Well, it _does_ occur in real music, as you

Re: Fwd: autochange and tuplet brackets

2013-12-20 Thread Urs Liska
Am 20.12.2013 10:29, schrieb Simon Bailey: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 9:55 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org mailto:d...@gnu.org wrote: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org writes: Am20.12.2013 08 tel:20.12.2013%2008:33, schrieb Simon Bailey: is this a bug or just

Re: Fwd: autochange and tuplet brackets

2013-12-20 Thread David Kastrup
Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at writes: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 9:55 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes: Am 20.12.2013 08:33, schrieb Simon Bailey: is this a bug or just unexpected behaviour on a border-case which doesn't occur in real music?;) Well,

Re: autochange and tuplet brackets

2013-12-20 Thread Mark Knoop
At 08:33 on 20 Dec 2013, Simon Bailey wrote: i've also included the tweaked output in not-ugly-tuplets.png. this was fixed by using the following tweak/untweak combination before the strange sextuplets: staffChangeSextupletTweak = { \override TupletBracket.bracket-visibility = ##t \override

Re: Fwd: autochange and tuplet brackets

2013-12-20 Thread Simon Bailey
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org wrote: ...SNIPSNAP... notation is less complex for the player, but not being a pianist, i'm not sure if it would be considered the correct way to do it. if not, i'm open to suggestions on how better to notate this section. i

Re: Fwd: autochange and tuplet brackets

2013-12-20 Thread Urs Liska
Am 20.12.2013 10:55, schrieb Simon Bailey: that was a good tip -- turned up the amazing cross-staff beams attached... :D Please do ... ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Fwd: autochange and tuplet brackets

2013-12-20 Thread Simon Bailey
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org wrote: Am 20.12.2013 10:55, schrieb Simon Bailey: that was a good tip -- turned up the amazing cross-staff beams attached... :D Please do ... yeah, i just realised that. and that the screeny is too big for the list:

Re: autochange and tuplet brackets

2013-12-20 Thread Simon Bailey
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Mark Knoop m...@opus11.net wrote: In my opinion the tweaked tuplet brackets are too far from the bass noteheads (particularly in bar 13). In situations like this I've always had to adjust the positions for each instance. agreed, this is not quite yet the

Re: autochange and tuplet brackets

2013-12-20 Thread David Kastrup
Mark Knoop m...@opus11.net writes: At 08:33 on 20 Dec 2013, Simon Bailey wrote: i've also included the tweaked output in not-ugly-tuplets.png. this was fixed by using the following tweak/untweak combination before the strange sextuplets: staffChangeSextupletTweak = { \override

Re: Fwd: autochange and tuplet brackets

2013-12-20 Thread Urs Liska
Am 20.12.2013 11:00, schrieb Simon Bailey: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org wrote: Am 20.12.2013 10 tel:20.12.2013%2010:55, schrieb Simon Bailey: that was a good tip -- turned up the amazing cross-staff beams

Re: autochange and tuplet brackets

2013-12-20 Thread Simon Bailey
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:05 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Not really: what's discussed in that thread is what happens when the bracket-visibility is #f. In that case, the tuplet number is placed as if there were a bracket, and since that bracket is placed quite far from the beam in

Re: autochange and tuplet brackets

2013-12-20 Thread Mark Knoop
yeah, i just realised that. and that the screeny is too big for the list: http://simon.bailey.at/random/liszt-cross-staff.png Ah, yes, that's the sort of stuff I had in mind. Although it doesn't involve (printed) tuplets. Musically the example is interestingly uncharacteristic (no clear

Re: autochange and tuplet brackets

2013-12-20 Thread Simon Bailey
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Mark Knoop m...@opus11.net wrote: Yes, and interestingly in this edition the rfz in the second system is misplaced. It should be on the LH d' d'' octave. interesting. there are four versions on IMSLP. two breitkopf härtel (the screenshot is from the first