Re: Clarification on the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) Applicability

2024-08-08 Thread Valentin Petzel
LilyPond code? For instance, if > the book contains dozens or even hundreds of musical excerpts, do I need to > disclose all the LaTeX code or just the musical notations? No. The GFDL is the license telling you what you may or may not do with the Lilypond documentation. It does not accect

Re: Clarification on the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) Applicability

2024-08-08 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Please don’t restart this 1000 times discussed nonsense. The result of your typesetting, if you take the PDF or a print, doesn’t contain source code of the used program. Your work is not subject of the program’s license. EOT Hraban

Clarification on the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) Applicability

2024-08-08 Thread Peter X
## Clarification on the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) Applicability ### Background Hello, I have been exploring the LilyPond 2.24.4 documentation as I plan to use LilyPond along with LaTeX to write some music education books for sale on Amazon. However, I have come across some concerns

Re: Looking for documentation for constants

2024-05-19 Thread Jean Abou Samra
> This is a very basic question.  I have see some examples that use > constants like "$SELECTION" or ""$CURSOR'$ANCHOR". but despite doing all the > obvious things (searching the documentation, etc.) I've not found any relevant > information. > &

Looking for documentation for constants

2024-05-19 Thread Ken Ledeen
Hello, This is a very basic question. I have see some examples that use constants like "$SELECTION" or ""$CURSOR'$ANCHOR". but despite doing all the obvious things (searching the documentation, etc.) I've not found any relevant information. I would sincer

Re: Texinfo documentation.

2024-02-10 Thread Hwaen Ch'uqi
ar.gz package. No >> problem. But how may I obtain the documentation in texinfo format for >> use with emacs? In fact, looking through the archive, it does not >> appear that there is any documentation at all! > > > Documentation is in a separate tarball, since most p

Re: Texinfo documentation.

2024-02-10 Thread Jean Abou Samra
> I have recently upgraded from 2.22.2 to 2.24.3. However, as I only use > LTS distributions of ubuntu, I had to download the tar.gz package. No > problem. But how may I obtain the documentation in texinfo format for > use with emacs? In fact, looking through the archive, it does not &

Texinfo documentation.

2024-02-10 Thread Hwaen Ch'uqi
Greetings, I have recently upgraded from 2.22.2 to 2.24.3. However, as I only use LTS distributions of ubuntu, I had to download the tar.gz package. No problem. But how may I obtain the documentation in texinfo format for use with emacs? In fact, looking through the archive, it does not appear

Re: Missing documentation archives for 2.24 and 2.25

2023-05-02 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le mardi 02 mai 2023 à 07:05 +0200, Thomas Weißschuh a écrit : > Hi, > > it seems the documenation archives for 2.24 (and 2.25) are missing from > https://lilypond.org/downloads/binaries/documentation/ . This is our old downlod site, as mentioned on  https://lilypond.org/old-do

Missing documentation archives for 2.24 and 2.25

2023-05-01 Thread Thomas Weißschuh
Hi, it seems the documenation archives for 2.24 (and 2.25) are missing from https://lilypond.org/downloads/binaries/documentation/ . Thomas

Re: Documentation: Should we possibly have aliases for current stable and current devel?

2023-02-13 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le lundi 13 février 2023 à 12:02 -0500, Kevin Cole a écrit : > That's okay too... as long as, when I ask a question, the answer isn't > always "upgrade". To speak for myself: If you say in your post “I know that this feature is in the latest stable version but I can't/don't want to upgrade be

Re: Documentation: Should we possibly have aliases for current stable and current devel?

2023-02-13 Thread Kevin Cole
On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 12:00 PM Saul Tobin wrote: > Many users have old projects on very old versions of Lilypond, and sometimes > you just want to make a small edit, not update your whole project to use the > new version. It's important for documentation to be available. T

Re: Documentation: Should we possibly have aliases for current stable and current devel?

2023-02-13 Thread Kevin Cole
On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 11:55 AM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > > Le lundi 13 février 2023 à 11:40 -0500, Kevin Cole a écrit : > > The point I was trying to make was "Does there REALLY need to be > documentation for versions 2.13 to 2.25? Maybe 2.20 to 2.25 would > suffice.&quo

Re: Documentation: Should we possibly have aliases for current stable and current devel?

2023-02-13 Thread Saul Tobin
Many users have old projects on very old versions of Lilypond, and sometimes you just want to make a small edit, not update your whole project to use the new version. It's important for documentation to be available. On Mon, Feb 13, 2023, 8:41 AM Kevin Cole wrote: > On Mon, Feb 13, 20

Re: Documentation: Should we possibly have aliases for current stable and current devel?

2023-02-13 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le lundi 13 février 2023 à 11:40 -0500, Kevin Cole a écrit : > The point I was trying to make was "Does there REALLY need to be > documentation for versions 2.13 to 2.25?  Maybe 2.20 to 2.25 would > suffice." I'm not sure it would help with Qwant/DuckDuckGo/Goog

Re: Documentation: Should we possibly have aliases for current stable and current devel?

2023-02-13 Thread Jean Abou Samra
may entail helping them navigate the online documentation; in > > such cases it may sometimes be appropriate to point them to > > version-agnostic URL paths such as  > > ``[/latest/](https://lilypond.org/doc/latest/Documentation/notation) or  > > ``[/sta

Re: Documentation: Should we possibly have aliases for current stable and current devel?

2023-02-13 Thread Kevin Cole
leased every few weeks > to months. The point I was trying to make was "Does there REALLY need to be documentation for versions 2.13 to 2.25? Maybe 2.20 to 2.25 would suffice."

Re: Documentation: Should we possibly have aliases for current stable and current devel?

2023-02-13 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Hi, From https://lilypond.org/help-us.html “Mailing list support: answer questions from fellow users. (This may entail helping them navigate the online documentation; in such cases it may sometimes be appropriate to point them to version-agnostic URL paths such as |/latest/| <ht

Re: Documentation: Should we possibly have aliases for current stable and current devel?

2023-02-13 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Hi Kevin, On the other hand, I strongly favor sticking with a distribution's package rather than starting every day with a "git pull". So, I'm always slightly behind the latest and greatest. Just for the record: Your description omits the (actually quite convenient) middle between the two ext

Re: Documentation: Should we possibly have aliases for current stable and current devel?

2023-02-13 Thread Kevin Cole
In the past, when I've asked a question, the answer has often been a gentle RTFM with a link to the appropriate info, followed by "Oh. You're using the version from four days ago, rather than the version du jour. That documentation doesn't apply to your version."

Re: Documentation: Should we possibly have aliases for current stable and current devel?

2023-02-13 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le lundi 13 février 2023 à 09:42 -0600, David Wright a écrit : > Very tangential to this, a URL like: > >   > [https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/recent](https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/recent) > > that would redirect to: > >   > [https://lists.gnu.org/archive/h

Re: Documentation: Should we possibly have aliases for current stable and current devel?

2023-02-13 Thread David Wright
On Mon 13 Feb 2023 at 15:58:42 (+0100), Jean Abou Samra wrote: > Mailing list support: answer questions from fellow users. > (This may entail helping them navigate the online documentation; > in such cases it may sometimes be appropriate to point them to > version-agnostic URL p

Re: Documentation: Should we possibly have aliases for current stable and current devel?

2023-02-13 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 13 févr. 2023 à 15:51, Valentin Petzel a écrit :Hello Pondmates!I’ve been wondering recently: When acessing the documentation we are usually acessing a specific version, we have something likelilypond.org/doc/v2.xy/whateverThis seems to mess with Google’s page scoring quite a bit. Now if I

Documentation: Should we possibly have aliases for current stable and current devel?

2023-02-13 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hello Pondmates! I’ve been wondering recently: When acessing the documentation we are usually acessing a specific version, we have something like lilypond.org/doc/v2.xy/whatever This seems to mess with Google’s page scoring quite a bit. Now if I were a new user, oblivious to how certain

Re: Documentation viewer in Frescobaldi

2023-01-20 Thread Federico Bruni
weird that the fill chooser dialog won't show .html files (and no, they are not hidden files). Strange. And I'd still like to know how F mysteriously display the 2.22 documentation page, with no settings indicating that. Stupid to even try, but reinstalling F made no difference. Where

Re: Documentation viewer in Frescobaldi

2023-01-19 Thread Andrew Bernard
not hidden files). Strange. And I'd still like to know how F mysteriously display the 2.22 documentation page, with no settings indicating that. Stupid to even try, but reinstalling F made no difference. Where is actually the best place to post about Frescobaldi support nowadays? Andrew

Re: Documentation viewer in Frescobaldi

2023-01-19 Thread David Wright
On Fri 20 Jan 2023 at 14:09:05 (+1100), Andrew Bernard wrote: > Frescobaldi 3.2 on Linux (EndeavorOS, and Ubuntu), no matter what URL > or local file I put in the Lilypond Documentation preferences it does > not work. If I use a URL at lily[pond.org I get an Apache error. If > try

Documentation viewer in Frescobaldi

2023-01-19 Thread Andrew Bernard
Frescobaldi 3.2 on Linux (EndeavorOS, and Ubuntu), no matter what URL or local file I put in the Lilypond Documentation preferences it does not work. If I use a URL at lily[pond.org I get an Apache error. If trying to add a local copy the index.html file simply does not appear in the browser

Re: Prefer luatex for documentation

2022-11-21 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 21/11/2022 à 23:14, Jean Abou Samra a écrit : I tried doing a speed test myself, but hit https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/merge_requests/1714#note_1180441076 After correcting my stupid mistake, I got pdfTeX: real    21m43,063s user    117m52,570s sys    17m24,881s LuaTeX: real 

Re: Prefer luatex for documentation

2022-11-21 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 21/11/2022 à 22:10, Jonas Hahnfeld via Discussions on LilyPond development a écrit : And whether we can just *require* LuaTeX and stop looking for pdfTeX and XeTeX altogether? I did a few measurements for the case of building the LilyPond documentation and, in terms of speed with the &qu

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Pierre-Luc Gauthier
The LilyPond repository is the only one that I follow closely that actually has (not quite but almost) daily updates anyway. I try to keep up to date as to where it's going, how it works and who's implicated (and in what capacity/portion). It is a big and complicated project that seems to have a li

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 18/08/2022 à 21:30, Pierre-Luc Gauthier a écrit : I also read "git log -p" on a daily basis. Just curious: are you really reading `git log -p` *on the LilyPond repository* on a daily basis? Or is this a general method to learn about software that you apply for various pieces of software on

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
how to do it. > > For the record, I learned a *lot* reading all (most) of the change logs : > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/changes/ > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/changes/ > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/changes/ > http://lilypond.or

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Pierre-Luc Gauthier
Thanks Andrew for your input. I did write a few manuals (and still do) for some system usage and I know how hard it can be to cover all what a system can do and how to do it. For the record, I learned a *lot* reading all (most) of the change logs : http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
know. For example, > > the tremolo; I recognized the graphic but I had no way to search for > > it by appearance, only read every line of the documentation until I > > find it and the "ah ha". > > This is where I imagine the visual index is most helpful. But I

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
#x27;t know. For > > example, the tremolo; I recognized the graphic but I had no way to > > search for it by appearance, only read every line of the > > documentation until I find it and the "ah ha". > > I think you are looking for the 'Visual LilyPond Grob Ind

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Werner LEMBERG
to > search for it by appearance, only read every line of the > documentation until I find it and the "ah ha". I think you are looking for the 'Visual LilyPond Grob Index': https://github.com/joram-berger/visualindex This gives you the name of the grob, which you can

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Aaron Hill
phic but I had no way to search for it by appearance, only read every line of the documentation until I find it and the "ah ha". This is where I imagine the visual index is most helpful. But I do wonder how often the Music Glossary is overlooked as a resource. It includes pictures

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
what it is that I don't know. For example, the tremolo; I recognized the graphic but I had no way to search for it by appearance, only read every line of the documentation until I find it and the "ah ha". I'm making no complaint about the quality of the documentation; I t

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Karlin High
I call a 'hard problem.' I agree, and appreciate the effort you put into writing that. I second Jean Abou Samra's motion for expanding the index if it seems good to so so. Lilypond.org is hosted on a Google service, I believe? Are there ways to see what search terms people use to

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Andrew Bernard
d on. The manual is written by one dedicated full time staff member. It's an amazing effort. I think it is truly remarkable as documentation, yet when it does not conform to what a user expects. they whine on the forum. Why am I telling this? Because it highlights the problem with sof

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 18/08/2022 à 04:16, Kenneth Wolcott a écrit : Hi; Dumb documentation question here: Kind of like a FAQ but also kind of like an index. So this would be a "translation" of layman's terms to Lilypond/professional terminology and an index; it could even point to existing indic

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-17 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
I do see the FAQ on the documentation page, but I think that this needs to be expanded, in more detail, as it frequently takes too long to find things in the existing documentation. Maybe I just don't use the right search strings to find what I'm looking for. On Wed, Aug 17, 2022

Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-17 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Hi; Dumb documentation question here: Kind of like a FAQ but also kind of like an index. So this would be a "translation" of layman's terms to Lilypond/professional terminology and an index; it could even point to existing indices (in Notation) and/or the Glossary. Q: Doe

Re: can someone point me to complete documentation for the partial command argument syntax?

2022-03-20 Thread David Kastrup
Wols Lists writes: > On 19/03/2022 20:01, David Kastrup wrote: >> Sam Roberts writes: >> >>> I tried so hard to be accurate, but I missed something: >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 12:38 PM Sam Roberts wrote: After experimentation, I found this worked: \time 3/4 \partial 1 c4 |

Re: can someone point me to complete documentation for the partial command argument syntax?

2022-03-20 Thread Wols Lists
l wrong: its argument does not specify how long it is _since_ a full bar but how long it is _to_ a full bar. As such, you'd usually see ... \time 3/4 \partial 4 c4 | ... in typical contexts. And the REAL problem is that he quite clearly does not understand the documentation (or can'

Re: can someone point me to complete documentation for the partial command argument syntax?

2022-03-20 Thread Knute Snortum
On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 1:57 PM Sam Roberts wrote: > > > The * syntax is described here: > > > > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/writing-rhythms#scaling-durations This is a good page to bookmark if you need to lookup the syntax of a command: https://l

Re: can someone point me to complete documentation for the partial command argument syntax?

2022-03-19 Thread Sam Roberts
> The * syntax is described here: > > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/writing-rhythms#scaling-durations Thank you, that's perfect. Sam

Re: can someone point me to complete documentation for the partial command argument syntax?

2022-03-19 Thread Michael Gerdau
> For my more general understanding, is there documentation anywhere for > the syntax of the argument to partial? Something that will explain the > * syntax shown on this page? That is simple. The argument to \partial is a duration. > https://music.stackexchange.com/questions/1

Re: can someone point me to complete documentation for the partial command argument syntax?

2022-03-19 Thread Carl Sorensen
On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 2:41 PM Sam Roberts wrote: > > For my more general understanding, is there documentation anywhere for > the syntax of the argument to partial? Something that will explain the > * syntax shown on this page? > > > https://music.stackexchange.com/qu

Re: can someone point me to complete documentation for the partial command argument syntax?

2022-03-19 Thread Sam Roberts
ore general understanding, is there documentation anywhere for the syntax of the argument to partial? Something that will explain the * syntax shown on this page? https://music.stackexchange.com/questions/106875/how-to-write-a-pickup-measure-with-5-16-duration-in-lilypond Thanks, Sam

Re: can someone point me to complete documentation for the partial command argument syntax?

2022-03-19 Thread David Kastrup
Sam Roberts writes: > I tried so hard to be accurate, but I missed something: > > On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 12:38 PM Sam Roberts wrote: >> After experimentation, I found this worked: >> >> \time 3/4 \partial 1 c4 | > > It "works" in that pdf output looks ok, c4 is in the pickup bar, but > still wa

Re: can someone point me to complete documentation for the partial command argument syntax?

2022-03-19 Thread Sam Roberts
I tried so hard to be accurate, but I missed something: On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 12:38 PM Sam Roberts wrote: > After experimentation, I found this worked: > > \time 3/4 \partial 1 c4 | It "works" in that pdf output looks ok, c4 is in the pickup bar, but still warns about the bar checks, as it sho

can someone point me to complete documentation for the partial command argument syntax?

2022-03-19 Thread Sam Roberts
n the duration syntax, but I'm not succeeding yet. Can someone point me to docs, or perhaps explain the syntax? https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.21/Documentation/learning/advanced-rhythmic-commands#partial-measure as an example, just has a couple examples, but not a complete syntax. Thank you, Sam

Re: Documentation confusion regarding MIDI.

2022-03-07 Thread Michael Gerdau
allocate sounds (aka midi channels) in a round robin fashion when exceeding the 16 channel midi limit. Either follow the suggested methods as of the documentation or deal with this in a DAW or proper midi sequencer in post processing (e.g. by reallocating excess channels to new tracks). Kind

Re: Documentation confusion regarding MIDI.

2022-03-06 Thread Dario Marrini
Well,. I'm part of the same club, the Midi environment has always been a hard chapter, anyhow, I know the difference between 'track' and 'channel' : in sound or video editing software, the track is just a container, you can have multiple tracks, video tracks, audio tracks, Midi tracks and so on, an

Documentation confusion regarding MIDI.

2022-03-06 Thread Hwaen Ch'uqi
Greetings All, I preface this by acknowledging that I know nothing about the innerworkings of MIDI. In section 3.5.7 of the NR, which deals with MIDI channel mapping, there appears to be a discrepancy in the wording about channels and tracks. The third paragraph implies that channels and tracks ar

Optional syntax highlighting now added to LilyPond's HTML documentation

2022-02-08 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Hi, The change to add syntax highlighting in the HTML version of the LilyPond documentation, discussed at https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2022-01/msg00012.html on the lilypond-user list and in various lilypond-devel and GitLab threads, has now landed in the source tree and

Re: learning (names of) markup commands in scheme: documentation

2022-01-22 Thread Jean Abou Samra
access the English version directly. (For documentation with a specialised audience, I always wonder if such divergence between versions would be better avoided with linguistic monoculture, but I really appreciate the effort! [And I hope this does not sound deprecating – it's not meant

Re: learning (names of) markup commands in scheme: documentation

2022-01-22 Thread Bernhard Fisseni
ree that the explanations regarding markups vs. markup lists, markup vs. stencils, markup in scheme etc. in the Documentation might be improved. For what it's worth, a step has been made just a few weeks ago with https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/merge_requests/1089 That merge request

Re: learning (names of) markup commands in scheme: documentation

2022-01-22 Thread Bernhard Fisseni
Hi Lukas, Lukas-Fabian Moser schrieb am 21.01.22 um 17:15: Also note [...] The standard use case for make-XXX-markup is explained in: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/extending/markup-construction-in-scheme.html under "Known issues and warnings". I had read that, and

Re: learning (names of) markup commands in scheme: documentation

2022-01-21 Thread David Kastrup
Jean Abou Samra writes: > Le 21/01/2022 à 08:57, Bernhard Fisseni a écrit : >> Good morning, >> >>   Consequence: There is no collision between an auxiliary function >> CMD and a homonymous markup command \CMD, as they are (CMD ...) and >> (make-CMD-markup ...), respectively, in scheme. > > > Yes

Re: learning (names of) markup commands in scheme: documentation

2022-01-21 Thread Jean Abou Samra
plans of similar scope, and [I] work on LilyPond as a hobby in otherwise already LilyPond development is for me a hobby in already otherwise busy weeks. Talk about busy weeks...

Re: learning (names of) markup commands in scheme: documentation

2022-01-21 Thread Jean Abou Samra
oc/v2.22/Documentation/extending/markup-construction-in-scheme> uses this implicitly in the last paragraphs, but an explicit remark might be helpful. <http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/extending/how-markups-work-internally> explains the correspondence with one example, but

Re: learning (names of) markup commands in scheme: documentation

2022-01-21 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
case for make-XXX-markup is explained in: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/extending/markup-construction-in-scheme.html under "Known issues and warnings". I would agree that the explanations regarding markups vs. markup lists, markup vs. stencils, markup in scheme etc.

Re: learning (names of) markup commands in scheme: documentation

2022-01-21 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Hi Bernhard, unfortunately I don't have much time at the moment (and there's always the chance that Jean or someone else more knowledgeable than me is already working on an exhaustive answer), but there's one thing I'd like to point out: #(define-markup-command (strut-line layout props line

learning (names of) markup commands in scheme: documentation

2022-01-21 Thread Bernhard Fisseni
tions.) - In my opinion writing the scheme code is much easier than mixing Lilypond and Scheme. - For every markup command and every markup list command \CMD, there is a corresponding scheme function make-CMD-markup. <http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/extending/markup-construction-i

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-05 Thread Robin Bannister
Jean Abou Samra wrote: [Robin] The stroke width I see is 1px (Firefox at 100%).  This makes the stroke dominated by edge effects; the surrounding white dilutes its colour. Do the WCAG recommendations recognise this?  If not, please don't apply their levels to this case. I don't know. I am

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hello Paul, The documentation does not specify any fonts. It simply uses the and tags. That means that the fonts used are whatever font your browser chooses as default font, which on Windows systems appears to be Courier for monospace and apparently in your case Georgia for the regular text

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread Jean Abou Samra
point of view of a colorblind person myself. The end goal is definitely to have the documentation site readable for everyone -- including those with disabilities -- and not just to follow recommendations blindly. [Paul] And this seems the appropriate place to ask why the examples are all in fixed

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 04/01/2022 à 23:19, Aaron Hill a écrit : On 2022-01-04 1:42 pm, Jean Abou Samra wrote: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.en.html [ . . . ] But I'm probably fretting for something that is very easy in the end. The code Lilypond's site would use would be entirely homegrown, lice

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread Jean Abou Samra
#x27;t see the relevance for documentation. The goal is to help the reader, not the documentation writer. Whether the input is intentional or not -- and it should really be for documentation --, focusing the reader's attention on that is inappropriate. Not to mention that \func a 8 where \func is

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2022-01-04 1:42 pm, Jean Abou Samra wrote: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.en.html [ . . . ] But I'm probably fretting for something that is very easy in the end. The code Lilypond's site would use would be entirely homegrown, licensed under GPL. Not sure there is anything h

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread Jean Abou Samra
t of a banner asking for explicit consent of the user? Otherwise, as far as I can read, the requirement is that you must ask for permission before storing or using the data, so this permission could be asked to the reader just when toggling highlighting and not for everyone reading the documentation,

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread Wol
eader just when toggling highlighting and not for everyone reading the documentation, right? I'm a bit at loss trying to understand what is OK or not in this respect. The fact that it's stored on the user's own device (and the server never sees it) means that the GDPR is irrelevant.

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2022-01-04 11:32 am, Jean Abou Samra wrote: Forgive my igorance with the inner workings of the Internet: what does this mean in connection with GDPR and all that? Am I right that the fact that the information stored on the user's device serves a purpose essential to satisfying the very request

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread Valentin Petzel
> to the reader just when toggling highlighting > and not for everyone reading the documentation, > right? I'm a bit at loss trying to understand > what is OK or not in this respect. > > Other than that, well, there is still JavaScript. > That's may not be the thing to

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread Jean Abou Samra
read, the requirement is that you must ask for permission before storing or using the data, so this permission could be asked to the reader just when toggling highlighting and not for everyone reading the documentation, right? I'm a bit at loss trying to understand what is OK or not in this respe

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2022-01-04 10:04 am, Valentin Petzel wrote: The problem is that we probably want to remember the set color scheme for longer than just the current page, so we'd need something like cookies. Not a problem in the slightest. But not cookies... localStorage [1]. [1]: https://developer.mozilla

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread Valentin Petzel
ating multiple versions of the docs referencing different stylesheet. Of course this would kind of blow up the size of the documentation for changing a single line. Sadly the browser functionality for multiple stylesheets usually consists of an obscure list hidden in some menu. In my opinion the best

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/01/2022 16:23, Aaron Hill wrote: On 2022-01-04 7:29 am, Erika Pirnes wrote: Would it be terribly difficult to have a color setting on the documentation page, so that people can choose between black and color? It is fairly straightforward with CSS and a little JavaScript: Is that on

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/01/2022 15:14, J Martin Rushton wrote: OK, I'll admit I only skimmed it, hence "I've saved the paper to read later"! I've got Doob's "A Gentle Introduction to TeX" and Oetiker's "The Not So Short Introduction to LaTeX2e" both of which keep to the fixed width convention. Again, I'll be hon

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2022-01-04 7:29 am, Erika Pirnes wrote: Would it be terribly difficult to have a color setting on the documentation page, so that people can choose between black and color? It is fairly straightforward with CSS and a little JavaScript: Dynamic styles body { font-size

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread Erika Pirnes
difficult to have a color setting on the documentation page, so that people can choose between black and color? Erika

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread J Martin Rushton
both TeX and METAFONT entirely in his WEB > programming > system for Literate Programming. I have the printed book for TeX. > > > On Tue, 2022-01-04 at 05:10 -0800, Aaron Hill wrote: > > > On 2022-01-04 4:19 am, J Martin Rushton wrote: > > > > Sorry to disagree, but f

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread David Kastrup
tten both TeX and METAFONT entirely in his WEB programming system for Literate Programming. I have the printed book for TeX. > > On Tue, 2022-01-04 at 05:10 -0800, Aaron Hill wrote: >> On 2022-01-04 4:19 am, J Martin Rushton wrote: >> > Sorry to disagree, but fixed pitch is _so_ much

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hello Robin, as far as I know the Lilypond Documentation does not specify the font to be used for this. So the system defaults to a standard monospace font. So the font will depend on the system. We could ship a dedicated font with the documentation, but I'm not sure if we want that. C

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread J Martin Rushton
n wrote: > > Sorry to disagree, but fixed pitch is _so_ much easier to lay out > > in an > > editor. Documentation flows nicely with variable pitch and fancy > > hidden formats, but for code (and Lily's input is a programming > > language) you just want the

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2022-01-04 4:19 am, J Martin Rushton wrote: Sorry to disagree, but fixed pitch is _so_ much easier to lay out in an editor. Documentation flows nicely with variable pitch and fancy hidden formats, but for code (and Lily's input is a programming language) you just want the plain line-by

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread J Martin Rushton
Paul, Sorry to disagree, but fixed pitch is _so_ much easier to lay out in an editor. Documentation flows nicely with variable pitch and fancy hidden formats, but for code (and Lily's input is a programming language) you just want the plain line-by-line ASCII. It is, as you say, ind

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread Robin Bannister
'Hear hear' to these recent posts from Thomas, Paul and the two Davids! I don't object to the fixed width, but the code font has always been spindly compared to the rest of the documentation text. I find this makes it harder to read anyway. The stroke width I see is 1px

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Di., 4. Jan. 2022 um 11:15 Uhr schrieb Paul McKay : > > Hi > Speaking as someone whose eyesight isn't quite as good as it used to be, Same problem here > I'd like to suggest that anything in a colour is also in bold so that there > are enough pixels for me to see what the colour is. I'd go e

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-04 Thread Paul McKay
t so that there's a clear contrast with the Georgia used as the text font in the documentation. Helvetica, Franklin Gothic and Source Sans Pro look good but I realize they might not be available on some platforms. HTH Paul McKay On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 at 23:33, David Kastrup wrote: > Flaming H

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-03 Thread David Kastrup
Flaming Hakama by Elaine writes: > In this sense, it seems like the place that has the most potential use > for helping people distinguish different data types is where the > syntax is the most complicated and dense, which is in music entry. > > The ability to quickly distinguish articulations, d

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-03 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
> > Am Sonntag, 2. Jänner 2022, 01:06:35 CET schrieb David Kastrup: > > Jean Abou Samra writes: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > There is an ongoing proposal to add syntax highlighting > > > in LilyPond's documentation. Since it is a notable chang

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-03 Thread David Zelinsky
Jean Abou Samra writes: > Hi all, > > There is an ongoing proposal to add syntax highlighting > in LilyPond's documentation. Since it is a notable change > to the documentation reading experience, user feedback would > be appreciated. You can browse a syntax-highlighted ve

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-03 Thread Peter Toye
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Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-02 Thread Wols Lists
On 02/01/2022 16:32, Jean Abou Samra wrote: I am colorblind (which BTW means that it's hard to distinguish certain colors, not that everything is gray). Sorry if I gave a wrong impression. I didn't mean that everything actually looked gray, just that it was the extreme imaginary case encompa

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-02 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 02/01/2022 à 17:01, Knute Snortum a écrit : On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 7:10 AM Jean Abou Samra wrote: ... [Marc] It will be necessary to keep an uncolored version for men (in principle women do not have this problem) who do not see well certain colors. This is taken care of -- the colors have

Re: Feedback wanted: syntax highlighting in the LilyPond documentation

2022-01-02 Thread Wols Lists
On 02/01/2022 09:34, Marc Lanoiselée via LilyPond user discussion wrote: It will be necessary to keep an uncolored version for men (in principle women do not have this problem) who do not see well certain colors. In principle (and practice) women DO suffer this problem. It's caused by a defect

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