Re: [PATCH] Re: not-so-ancient flags

2008-07-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> >However, I didn't find the exact cause of my second problem, where > >the flags do not start at the very end of the stem, but are shifted > >a little inwards... Will have a look in the next days. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond

Re: [PATCH] Re: not-so-ancient flags

2008-07-24 Thread luis jure
on 2008-07-24 at 19:33 Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: >I think the angles (different angles for up/down stems!) and the >lengths are okay, although they might still be fine-tuned a bit more. i agree with both statements, IMHO it would be great if this patch could be merged in upcoming releases. >I'v

Re: not-so-ancient flags

2008-07-24 Thread luis jure
glad to see this important thread revived. on 2008-07-24 at 08:14 madhg wrote: >1) personally I like the flags in the first row of my June 17 message >in this thread. As you say it's a matter of taste. i'd like to promote the inclusion of TWO new flags, something like straight-ancient and str

Re: not-so-ancient flags

2008-07-24 Thread madhg
slurred examples). Here's an example, Hässler 1779. http://www.nabble.com/file/p18634681/grace-notes.jpg I've clumsily drawn a slash: http://www.nabble.com/file/p18634681/grace-notes-2.jpg -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/not-so-ancient-flags-tp178

Re: not-so-ancient flags

2008-07-24 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2008 schrieb madhg: > Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > > There are currently three things that are bothering me: > > > > 1) What are the optimal values for the flag angle, the flag length (for > > up/downstems), the flag thickness an

Re: not-so-ancient flags

2008-07-24 Thread madhg
rough the facsimiles which I possess, I'd say that grace-notes were tiny, did not have a slash through the stem, and were not normally slurred to the following note. Here's an example: -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/not-so-ancient-flags-tp17872782p18634017.htm

Re: not-so-ancient flags

2008-07-24 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2008 schrieb madhg: > This thread has gone quiet, and I am wondering whether the new flags might > be in a future lilypond version? Sure, I'm currently just a little busy with the documentation... (and switching between branch

Re: not-so-ancient flags

2008-07-24 Thread madhg
This thread has gone quiet, and I am wondering whether the new flags might be in a future lilypond version? David (who started the ball rolling but doesn't have the technical ability to contribute) -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/not-so-ancient-

Re: not-so-ancient flags

2008-07-02 Thread luis jure
on 2008-06-28 at 14:53 Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: >In your original images, the slant is somewhere betwen 40 and 45 >degrees... But I agree, that large slant does not look good. I prefer >something like 30 degrees. >About the length: I also agree that they look too short. >I'll try to come up wit

Re: not-so-ancient flags

2008-06-28 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 20. Juni 2008 schrieb luis jure: > another question: i find your flags a bit small (and too slanted) In your original images, the slant is somewhere betwen 40 and 45 degrees... But I agree, that large slant does not look good. I prefer so

Re: not-so-ancient flags

2008-06-20 Thread luis jure
on 2008-06-20 at 00:59 Werner LEMBERG wrote: >Usually yes. If you find good values, we can still check that later >on to parameterize if needed. thanks for your hints, werner, i'll try to find values to get as close as possible to the scores of composers like stockhausen and boulez. if i come u

Re: not-so-ancient flags

2008-06-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> i guess i have to apply your patch (and werner's) Only my patch. > to the sources and recompile lilypond, right? is it OK to patch > against 2.11.49 sources? Yes. > how can i modify the file to get what i want? > > +straight_flag_angle = -37; > +straight_upflag_length# = .65 black_notehead_

Re: not-so-ancient flags

2008-06-19 Thread luis jure
on 2008-06-19 at 16:21 Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: >Actually, adding different flags in lilypond is quite simple: great, actually i've been wanting to ask this for a long time, but not related to old notation styles but rather to more "contemporary" practices. it has been quite common for the las

Re: not-so-ancient flags

2008-06-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Attached is a first attempt to do this, plus a sample file showing > the new "straight", the "mensural" and the default flag styles. Attached is a patch which fixes the metrics and glyph shapes so that the straight flags convert nicely to PS outlines. IMHO, the shapes are ready for inclusion n

Re: not-so-ancient flags

2008-06-19 Thread Tim Reeves
Please respond to lilypond-user@gnu.org To lilypond-user@gnu.org cc Subject lilypond-user Digest, Vol 67, Issue 68 Message: 1 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:50:19 -0700 (PDT) From: madhg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: not-so-ancient flags To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL

Re: not-so-ancient flags

2008-06-19 Thread madhg
to my suggestion! David Griffel -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/not-so-ancient-flags-tp17872782p18010666.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: not-so-ancient flags

2008-06-19 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
traightd5"); + create_straight_flag_char (3, straight_downflag_length, straight_downflag_length#); + y_mirror_char; +fet_endchar; + + +fet_beginchar ("straight 64th (down)", "straightd6"); + create_straight_flag_char (4, straight_downflag_length, straight_downflag_length#); + y_mirror_

Re: not-so-ancient flags

2008-06-18 Thread madhg
Frescobaldi 1637 (Toccate... Libro Primo) http://www.nabble.com/file/p17961525/Frescobaldi-flags.jpg -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/not-so-ancient-flags-tp17872782p17961525.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: not-so-ancient flags

2008-06-17 Thread madhg
http://www.nabble.com/file/p17881566/T%25C3%25BCrk-beams.jpg In fact, the much earlier CPE Bach doesn't do it like this; isolated 16ths in a beamed group are treated in the same way as modern notation. best wishes, David Griffel -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/n

Re: not-so-ancient flags

2008-06-16 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/6/16 madhg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I'm transcribing some early classical prints. They use flags which are > bolder and clearer than modern flags - at least for 8ths and 16ths. > > http://www.nabble.com/file/p17872782/flags.jpg > > Would there be any interest in having this as another style o

not-so-ancient flags

2008-06-16 Thread madhg
#x27;s obviously not something urgent. I've no idea how much work would be involved. If it's not too much, I might be interested in sponsoring. David -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/not-so-ancient-flags-tp17872782p17872782.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mail