Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/25/09 5:36 PM, "fiëé visuëlle" wrote: > Am 2009-09-25 um 22:54 schrieb James E. Bailey: >>> Just, pretty please: Could someone tell me how to get chord names >>> with -is and -es (saying "fis" and not "f#")? >>> Or of course point me to the appropriate chapter of the docs. >> >> Section

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Am 2009-09-25 um 22:54 schrieb James E. Bailey: Just, pretty please: Could someone tell me how to get chord names with -is and -es (saying "fis" and not "f#")? Or of course point me to the appropriate chapter of the docs. Section 2.7.2, Displaying chords under Customizing chord names Of co

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Daniel Hulme
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 07:36:21PM +0100, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: >> For the record, does he also want you to use the old Novello >> "backwards eighth-note rest" for quarter rests? >> I mean, that was also the "common practice since Bach" — but people >> [wisely] decided that a *real* quarte

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/25/09 2:17 PM, "fiëé visuëlle" wrote: > > Just, pretty please: Could someone tell me how to get chord names with > -is and -es (saying "fis" and not "f#")? > Or of course point me to the appropriate chapter of the docs. Here's a set of scheme routines that will allow you to get Fis, Aes

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread James E. Bailey
On 25.09.2009, at 22:17, fiëé visuëlle wrote: Just, pretty please: Could someone tell me how to get chord names with -is and -es (saying "fis" and not "f#")? Or of course point me to the appropriate chapter of the docs. Section 2.7.2, Displaying chords under Customizing chord names James E.

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Am 2009-09-25 um 21:03 schrieb Carl Sorensen: The reason why I didn't just use [] instead of () is that I didn't want to check and change the lyrics of all the songs that were already typeset. I guess I'll use that approach for the rest of the songbook. But the documentation says that if au

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/25/09 10:15 AM, "fiëé visuëlle" wrote: > > The reason why I didn't just use [] instead of () is that I didn't > want to check and change the lyrics of all the songs that were already > typeset. I guess I'll use that approach for the rest of the songbook. > But the documentation says th

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message , Kieren MacMillan writes Hi, Sorry, no chance - "this is common practice since Bach, and I as a seasoned choir leader" yadda yadda... Wow... a closed-minded, backwards-thinking choral director. There's a first time for everything, I guess! ;) He's very much convinced that hi

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Thank you all for the discussion and the good advice! I don't want to let my editor look like an evil stick-in-the-mud (or how do you say) - he's a real expert in German and European folk music, so maybe he's just only used to older songbooks... (And I agree, most folk songbooks that are 10

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/25/09 9:44 AM, "Reinhold Kainhofer" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Am Freitag, 25. September 2009 17:41:00 schrieb Carl Sorensen: >> On 9/25/09 8:39 AM, "fiëé visuëlle" wrote: >>> If I switched off slurs using >>> \override Slur #'stencil = ##f >>> how do I

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 25. September 2009 17:41:00 schrieb Carl Sorensen: > On 9/25/09 8:39 AM, "fiëé visuëlle" wrote: > > If I switched off slurs using > > \override Slur #'stencil = ##f > > how do I enable it again without warnings? > > > > \override Slur #'st

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/25/09 8:39 AM, "fiëé visuëlle" wrote: > > If I switched off slurs using > \override Slur #'stencil = ##f > how do I enable it again without warnings? > > \override Slur #'stencil = ##t > does work, but issues an error (#t is no stencil) If you read the Internals Reference, 3.1.90 Slur,

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi, Sorry, no chance - "this is common practice since Bach, and I as a seasoned choir leader" yadda yadda... Wow... a closed-minded, backwards-thinking choral director. There's a first time for everything, I guess! ;) He's very much convinced that his "standard" is much easier to read

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Reinhold, here in Europe, that is traditional notation Yes, it's "traditional notation" over here, too... ;) From the Essential Dictionary of Music Notation, pg 186: "Beaming of notes associated with a lyric now follows standard notational practice. Traditional practice, now obsolete,

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/25/09 6:31 AM, "fiëé visuëlle" wrote: > Hi again, > > my editor tells me, in vocal music eights (everything smaller than a > quarter) have to be normally unbarred and I should use barred eights > instead of slurs. > > Is there a global setting for that? To change the global settings fo

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I don't understand how \override Slur #'stencil = ##f can solve any problems, since you have to insert the corresponding beams manually to get the correct melisma. Why not use your text editor to replace each ( by a [ and each ) by a ] ? This, combined with \autoBeamOff, will give the desired b

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Am 2009-09-25 um 16:37 schrieb Reinhold Kainhofer: Am Freitag, 25. September 2009 16:21:01 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi, my editor tells me, in vocal music eights (everything smaller than a quarter) have to be normally unbarred and I should use barred eights instead of slurs. That is *not*

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Am 2009-09-25 um 16:21 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: my editor tells me, in vocal music eights (everything smaller than a quarter) have to be normally unbarred and I should use barred eights instead of slurs. That is *not* modern practice... I would *strongly* recommend that you try to convin

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 25. September 2009 16:21:01 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: > Hi, > > > my editor tells me, in vocal music eights (everything smaller than > > a quarter) > > have to be normally unbarred and I should use barred eights instead > > of slurs. > >

Re: slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi, my editor tells me, in vocal music eights (everything smaller than a quarter) have to be normally unbarred and I should use barred eights instead of slurs. That is *not* modern practice... I would *strongly* recommend that you try to convince your editor to use modern practice (i.e.,

slurs and bars in vocal music

2009-09-25 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Hi again, my editor tells me, in vocal music eights (everything smaller than a quarter) have to be normally unbarred and I should use barred eights instead of slurs. Is there a global setting for that? I know \autoBeamOn/Off (works only within a voice) and \override Slur #'stencil = ##f