staccato dots and slurs in second voice

2015-01-25 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Have a look at these two snippets. % slur.ly \relative c' << { c'8( b) } \\ { e,4 } >> % slur-beam.ly \relative c' << { c'8[( b]) } \\ { e,4 } >> % staccato-slur.ly \relative c' << { c'8( b-.) } \\ { e,4 } >> % staccato-slur-beam.

Re: staccato dots and slurs in second voice

2015-01-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Werner, This lovely collection of snippets reveals oh so many problems… :) 1. The staccato dot should be directly at the end of the stem (see Gould, etc.), unless it’s part of a compound/multiple articulation. 2. Yes, the slur should behave as if there’s a beam present. 3. Yes, the slur sh

Re: staccato dots and slurs in second voice

2015-01-25 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi, On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Kieren MacMillan < kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi Werner, > > This lovely collection of snippets reveals oh so many problems… :) > > 1. The staccato dot should be directly at the end of the stem (see Gould, > etc.), unless it’s part of a compound/

Re: staccato dots and slurs in second voice

2015-01-25 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > This situation with staccato dots is more complex, however. Gould says: > "Staccato dots and wedges by themselves look best centred on a stem ... > although many editions do centre them on the notehead" (118). Good point. Perhaps it could/should be a parameter? Thanks, Kieren. ___

Re: staccato dots and slurs in second voice

2015-01-25 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Kieren, On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Kieren MacMillan < kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi David, > > > This situation with staccato dots is more complex, however. Gould says: > "Staccato dots and wedges by themselves look best centred on a stem ... > although many editions do cen

Re: staccato dots and slurs in second voice

2015-01-25 Thread David Nalesnik
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 2:15 PM, David Nalesnik wrote: > Hi Kieren, > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Kieren MacMillan < > kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > >> Hi David, >> >> > This situation with staccato dots is more complex, however. Gould >> says: "Staccato dots and wedges by thems

Re: staccato dots and slurs in second voice

2015-01-25 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi, On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 5:50 PM, David Nalesnik wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 2:15 PM, David Nalesnik > wrote: > >> Hi Kieren, >> >> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Kieren MacMillan < >> kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> >>> Hi David, >>> >>> > This situation with staccato do

Re: staccato dots and slurs in second voice

2015-01-25 Thread Jay Anderson
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 5:14 PM, David Nalesnik wrote: > It's definitely possible! Using a pointer to a ScriptColumn, the X-offset > callback for Script can be modified to (1) center staccatos over the stem if > no other articulations are present; (2) center them over the note head if > multiple

Re: staccato dots and slurs in second voice

2015-01-25 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Jay, On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:03 PM, Jay Anderson wrote: > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 5:14 PM, David Nalesnik > wrote: > > It's definitely possible! Using a pointer to a ScriptColumn, the > X-offset > > callback for Script can be modified to (1) center staccatos over the > stem if > > no othe

Re: staccato dots and slurs in second voice

2015-01-25 Thread David Nalesnik
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 8:24 PM, David Nalesnik wrote: > Hi Jay, > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:03 PM, Jay Anderson > wrote: > >> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 5:14 PM, David Nalesnik >> wrote: >> > It's definitely possible! Using a pointer to a ScriptColumn, the >> X-offset >> > callback for Script

Re: staccato dots and slurs in second voice

2015-01-25 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> That's effectively what I'm doing. I'm changing the X-offset >> callback because it's only there that the property >> toward-stem-shift is read (see scm/output-lib.scm). The trick is >> allowing two different concurrent values for toward-stem-shift: 1.0 >> for when the staccato is alone, 0.0

Re: staccato dots and slurs in second voice

2015-01-26 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Werner, On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > >> That's effectively what I'm doing. I'm changing the X-offset > >> callback because it's only there that the property > >> toward-stem-shift is read (see scm/output-lib.scm). The trick is > >> allowing two different concu

Re: staccato dots and slurs in second voice

2015-01-26 Thread David Nalesnik
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 9:33 AM, David Nalesnik wrote: > I have something which is almost ready to be reviewed, but I need to get > several patches pushed and into current master first. > > A patch is up for review: see https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2535 --David _