In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Graham Percival
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On 5-Feb-05, at 9:40 AM, David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
As I've said before, please tell me exactly what section(s) should
changed, and exactly
what should be changed or added.
Table of Contents
* GNU LilyPond \u2014 The
On Sunday 06 February 2005 04:08 pm, Graham Percival wrote:
On 5-Feb-05, at 9:40 AM, David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
As I've said before, please tell me exactly what section(s) should
changed, and exactly
what should be changed or added.
Table of Contents
* GNU LilyPond \u2014 The
On 5-Feb-05, at 9:40 AM, David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
As I've said before, please tell me exactly what section(s) should
changed, and exactly
what should be changed or added.
Table of Contents
* GNU LilyPond \u2014 The music typesetter
* Preface
o Notes for version 2.4
* 1
On Friday 04 February 2005 09:16 pm, Graham Percival wrote:
On 3-Feb-05, at 2:34 AM, D Josiah Boothby wrote:
I'm not interested in midi. So \transpostion seems to be useless
to me. The
manual just says nothing about it :-(
I agree that the manual should probably be more clear here. I
On 3-Feb-05, at 2:34 AM, D Josiah Boothby wrote:
I'm not interested in midi. So \transpostion seems to be useless to
me. The
manual just says nothing about it :-(
I agree that the manual should probably be more clear here. I have an
example that I would be happy to add which clarifies one of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll attempt to clarify again:
transposition is something that allows midi to know how the music has
been transposed so that when you listen to a midi file, you hear what you
wrote, not what the transposed notes look like.
Okay. So the manual needs to say that. At
Oops ... my bad here ... I've just seen the sentence about MIDI output and how
it doesn't affect printing.
But I would still respectfully suggest that it *should* affect printing, it
seems to me we have here a generic solution being applied over-narrowly to a
specific problem.
Let's say I
I don't really understand what you mean by input and output sections.
You can do any any of the following:
music={c d e f}
\score{
\transpose c bes \music
}
music=\transpose c bes {c d e f}
\score{
\music
}
\score{
\transpose c bes {c d e f}
}
as well as
\music={\transposition bes c d e f}
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As far as I understand, the point of \transposition is that you can make
a printed version of the music and a MIDI version of the same music
without having to make two separate \score{...} sections (one with
\transpose and one without). In other words, \transposition
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So - can I respectfully suggest we have a big bug here - either in
the manual or in the implementation of \transposition. And imho the
bug should be in the implementation - by changing the implementation
Can I respectfully mention that I still don't understand what
I'm not interested in midi. So \transpostion seems to be useless to me. The
manual just says nothing about it :-(
I agree that the manual should probably be more clear here. I have an
example that I would be happy to add which clarifies one of your next
questions.
And as for the workaround
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So - can I respectfully suggest we have a big bug here - either in
the manual or in the implementation of transposition. And imho the
bug should be in the implementation - by changing the implementation
Can I respectfully mention that
On Thursday 03 February 2005 07:42 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So - can I respectfully suggest we have a big bug here - either
in the manual or in the implementation of transposition. And imho
the bug should be in the implementation
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As far as I understand, the point of \transposition is that you can make
a printed version of the music and a MIDI version of the same music
without having to make two separate \score{...} sections (one with
\transpose and one without). In other
In regards to the Horn and other instruments for which transpositions
can change during the course of a piece, I should mention that the
Lilypond way is much easier to deal with than, for instance, the Finale
way (at least up until Finale 2001, the last version that I used
regularly). Granted,
Damn webmail ...
I've got it! The result is a bit of a mess but it seems to work.
I store all my notes in a voiceXxx.ly file, so my voiceTromnbone file now
contains a \transpose c' bf if the part's in Bb.
And all my formatting and score stuff is in a partXxx.ly file, so if I'm
outputting a Bb
Something seems wrong here ... I'm trying to enter a part for Trombone in
treble clef (ie in B flat).
Reading the manual, section 5.15.6 says transpose and relative don't work
well together, but this doesn't make sense! transpose converts the pitch of
music as it is *output*, while relative
Try specifying transposition before relative. The following (not quite
minimal) example works for me:
TptOne = \relative c''{
\key c \major % Needed here, or the part in Bb gets no key signature.
% notes .
}
\context Staff {
% \transpose must be outside \relative
% -
Graham King wrote:
Try specifying transposition before relative. The following (not quite
minimal) example works for me:
That's exactly what the 2.4.2 manual says: If you want to use both
|\transpose| and |\relative|, you must put |\transpose| outside of
|\relative|, since |\relative| will
My apologies; I replied in haste. The original question was about
\transposition and my reply was about \transpose. (The difference being
that my notes are entered at concert (sounding) pitch, and \transpose is
then used to produce a transposing part.)
Wol's follow-up at 10:18 GMT introduces a
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Scott
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Graham King wrote:
Try specifying transposition before relative. The following (not quite
minimal) example works for me:
That's exactly what the 2.4.2 manual says: If you want to use both
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
don't confuse \transposition and \transpose. \transposition sets the
transposition of the instrument playing. This is used for getting cue
note transpositions and MIDI output correct. \transpose changes the
pitches of a music
Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
don't confuse \transposition and \transpose. \transposition sets the
transposition of the instrument playing. This is used for getting cue
note transpositions and MIDI output correct. \transpose
Chip wrote:
Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Han-Wen
Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
don't confuse \transposition and \transpose. \transposition sets the
transposition of the instrument playing. This is used for getting cue
note transpositions and MIDI output correct.
I'll attempt to clarify again:
\transposition is something that allows midi to know how the music has
been transposed so that when you listen to a midi file, you hear what you
wrote, not what the transposed notes look like.
\transpose actually transposes the notes in the music.
so, if you want
the example at the end of my post assumes that the notes you entered are
at sounding pitch. you would just do everything in the opposite manner if
you enter a Bb part and want to see a C part printed.
josiah
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