Re: [LINK] Question re spoofing with bad reply address

2014-07-11 Thread Stephen Rothwell
Hi Jeremy, On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:35:54 +1000 Jeremy Visser wrote: > > On 11/07/14 14:27, Stephen Rothwell wrote: > > Well, if for no other reason than that many ISPs insist that you use > > their mail server for outgoing email > > Who does this? I would invite you to name-and-shame them. > >

Re: [LINK] Question re spoofing with bad reply address

2014-07-11 Thread Stephen Rothwell
Hi, On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:05:35 +1000 Stephen Rothwell wrote: > > And some clients don't seem to have even heard of port 587 - STARTTLS > was only originally codified in 1998, made a draft standard in 2006 and > standardised in 2011. Imagine using such new fangled stuff! :-) Let me clarify th

Re: [LINK] Question re spoofing with bad reply address

2014-07-11 Thread Jeremy Visser
On 11/07/14 15:44, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > Why anonymous - can't you require them to STARTTLS+AUTH, even on port 25? Some people have their head in the sand and continue to purchase equipment that doesn't support TLS nor SMTP authentication. And proceed to blame me when it doesn't work. I'd te

Re: [LINK] Question re spoofing with bad reply address

2014-07-11 Thread David Boxall
To sum up: SPF is one of those cases where geeks will talk among themselves and nobody else will notice. -- David Boxall| Any given program, | when running correctly, http://david.boxall.id.au | is obsolete.

Re: [LINK] Question re spoofing with bad reply address

2014-07-11 Thread Kim Holburn
I run a mail gateway. It is a pain these days. Many people find it easier to outsource email to experts. You have to constantly keep up with the latest things spammers are doing. I use a bunch of techniques but you can't bounce emails. Rarely have I had issues with SPF, only when someone ha