[LINK] ACCAN submission to USO review

2016-08-04 Thread David Boxall
... (ACCAN) has proposed an expanded scope for the USO, broader affordability measures and changes to ensure greater inclusion for people with a disability. The proposed changes would ensure that all consumers have access to essential communi

Re: [LINK] Fwd: Re: Why do people permit third-party cookies?

2016-08-04 Thread Jan Whitaker
At 11:50 AM 5/08/2016, Roger Clarke you wrote: >>FireFox: >> >> AdBlock Plus (and turn off their exceptions) >> Ghostery >> PrivacyBadger >> NoScript >> >>If you are a Chrome user, uninstall it and install Chromium instead. >>They are the same browser, but Chrome has Google's privacy-hostil

Re: [LINK] Why do people permit third-party cookies?

2016-08-04 Thread Kim Holburn
Adblock Plus BetterPrivacy - Control Super COokies CookieMonster - Control cookies Disable clipboard manipulations - did you know your browser can just … ? Ghostery HTML Video Everywhere - I don’t use flash on my main browser any more. No Resource URI Leak Nuke Anything Enhanced - gets rid of anno

Re: [LINK] Why do people permit third-party cookies?

2016-08-04 Thread Jan Whitaker
At 11:55 AM 5/08/2016, David Lochrin wrote: >I don't know what the solution for the Computer Club is, Jan. Maybe you could >just deal with one small area at a time? It would depend on their level of >understanding. Exactly. So far I have this: http://www.wsj.com/articles/do-this-one-hour-s

Re: [LINK] Why do people permit third-party cookies?

2016-08-04 Thread David Lochrin
On 2016-08-05 11:19 Karl Auer wrote: >> [Jan] This is a miss for me. Won't help our beginner/low intermediate users >> whatsoever. > > Sorry to be dismissive. There are a thousand bits of software that take a tad > more effort to install than blind clicking on a big green button. > > Carry on

Re: [LINK] Why do people permit third-party cookies?

2016-08-04 Thread JanW
At 11:19 AM 5/08/2016, Karl Auer wrote: >Carry on with Chrome. Google loves you. Chrome is NOT my browser of choice. I use it quite sparingly. I don't use bloated FF any more either. I avoid IE as much as possible, too. Chrome over that, without logging in. So no, Google can get stuffed. I

Re: [LINK] Why do people permit third-party cookies?

2016-08-04 Thread Peter Batchelor
Jan, the Lightbeam addon for Firefox is a great way to show connections and data sharing between the sites you’ve visited. I used it in a club talk a few months ago to demonstrate just how much information most people are giving away… Peter > On 5 Aug 2016, at 10:03 AM, JanW wrote: > > At 09:4

Re: [LINK] Why do people permit third-party cookies?

2016-08-04 Thread Karl Auer
On Fri, 2016-08-05 at 10:53 +1000, JanW wrote: > Chromium website doesn't have an obvious link to the actual software. > Seems they call them 'builds'.  OK. It's in the Ubuntu repositories and has been for years, so in my case it's just a simple install. There are a zillion download sites that do

Re: [LINK] Why do people permit third-party cookies?

2016-08-04 Thread JanW
At 10:20 AM 5/08/2016, Karl Auer you wrote: >If you are a Chrome user, uninstall it and install Chromium instead. >They are the same browser, but Chrome has Google's privacy-hostile >"enhancements". > >Chrome/Chromium has the first three, need to find something else to >replace the last. I went

Re: [LINK] Why do people permit third-party cookies?

2016-08-04 Thread Bernard Robertson-Dunn
On 5/08/2016 10:20 AM, Karl Auer wrote: > On Fri, 2016-08-05 at 10:03 +1000, JanW wrote: >> I'm doing a talk on "safe(R) computing" for our club next week. >> I wouldn't mind suggestions of the top 2 or 3 "must include" >> recommendations from Linkers. > FireFox: > >AdBlock Plus (and turn off

Re: [LINK] Why do people permit third-party cookies?

2016-08-04 Thread Karl Auer
On Fri, 2016-08-05 at 10:03 +1000, JanW wrote: > I'm doing a talk on "safe(R) computing" for our club next week.  > I wouldn't mind suggestions of the top 2 or 3 "must include" > recommendations from Linkers. FireFox:    AdBlock Plus (and turn off their exceptions)    Ghostery    PrivacyBadger  

Re: [LINK] Why do people permit third-party cookies?

2016-08-04 Thread JanW
At 09:41 AM 5/08/2016, Karl Auer wrote: >Running with no cookies and no scripts is an austere, but somehow >peaceful web experience. Ad Block is a must as well, for safety as much as anything. Speaking of -- I'm doing a talk on "safe(R) computing" for our club next week. I wouldn't mind sugg

Re: [LINK] Why do people permit third-party cookies?

2016-08-04 Thread Roger Clarke
At 9:31 +1000 5/8/16, Marghanita da Cruz wrote: >Have you tested the census? What, and join the hundreds of thousands in the queue? (:-)} I gather there are more than a few issues, just operationally, leave aside the (huge) questions of breach of trust. Maybe cookies are an issue too. But, if

Re: [LINK] Why do people permit third-party cookies?

2016-08-04 Thread Karl Auer
On Fri, 2016-08-05 at 09:31 +1000, Marghanita da Cruz wrote: > In desperation to get my toll refund, from the NSW RMS I have tried  > allowing pop ups, flash, third party cookies. > The support desks suggest I use a different computer! Write a letter demanding your refund, briefly explaining the t

Re: [LINK] Why do people permit third-party cookies?

2016-08-04 Thread Marghanita da Cruz
Hi Roger, It isn't just e-life it is normal life. In desperation to get my toll refund, from the NSW RMS I have tried allowing pop ups, flash, third party cookies. The support desks suggest I use a different computer! Have you tested the census? Marghanita On 05/08/16 09:14, Roger Clarke wr

[LINK] Why do people permit third-party cookies?

2016-08-04 Thread Roger Clarke
What a surprise - permitting third-party cookies enables an https attack: http://www.itnews.com.au/news/heist-attack-breaches-https-in-the-browser-432667 I'm sure I miss many carefully-designed 'customer experiences' by blocking third-party cookies. If my e-life is the poorer because of it, I ha