Re: [LINK] AEC faces backlash over vote counting ???black box???

2016-07-21 Thread Chris Maltby
> At 10:27 PM 21/07/2016, Chris Maltby wrote: > >The other audit capability is the (incomplete) counts of senate > >first preferences by group that was conducted manually in polling > >booths on election night. This data is available for statistical > >comparison with the booth-by-booth final vote

Re: [LINK] AEC faces backlash over vote counting ???black box???

2016-07-21 Thread JanW
At 10:27 PM 21/07/2016, Chris Maltby wrote: >The other audit capability is the (incomplete) counts of senate >first preferences by group that was conducted manually in polling >booths on election night. This data is available for statistical >comparison with the booth-by-booth final vote data and t

Re: [LINK] AEC faces backlash over vote counting ???black box???

2016-07-21 Thread Chris Maltby
The key (as David says) is auditability of the process. The new system of counting is effectively fully electronic, but scrutineers can watch the data entry process of a clerk which will be compared with a successful OCR of the scan. The scrutineer can also request and be shown the physical paper

Re: [LINK] AEC faces backlash over vote counting ‘black box’

2016-07-20 Thread David Lochrin
On 2016-07-20 12:45 Brendan wrote: > To properly scrutinise it you'd also need to verify the operation of the/each > machine - what software was, in fact, loaded onto it, what did that software > do. Has the machine been compromised etc. Seems to me that vote stuffing > would be easier on a ma

Re: [LINK] AEC faces backlash over vote counting ‘black box’

2016-07-19 Thread Brendan
On 07/20/2016 12:24 PM, Sam Silvester wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Brendan wrote: On 07/20/2016 11:54 AM, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote: AEC faces backlash over vote counting ‘black box’ George Lekakis http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/election-2016/2016/07/19/aec-backlash-vote-coun

Re: [LINK] AEC faces backlash over vote counting ‘black box’

2016-07-19 Thread Sam Silvester
On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Brendan wrote: > On 07/20/2016 11:54 AM, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote: > >> AEC faces backlash over vote counting ‘black box’ >> George Lekakis >> >> http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/election-2016/2016/07/19/aec-backlash-vote-counting/ >> > > However, computer expe

Re: [LINK] AEC faces backlash over vote counting ‘black box’

2016-07-19 Thread Brendan
On 07/20/2016 11:54 AM, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote: AEC faces backlash over vote counting ‘black box’ George Lekakis http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/election-2016/2016/07/19/aec-backlash-vote-counting/ However, computer experts claim that the digital counting process cannot be fully observed

[LINK] AEC faces backlash over vote counting ‘black box’

2016-07-19 Thread Bernard Robertson-Dunn
AEC faces backlash over vote counting ‘black box’ George Lekakis http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/election-2016/2016/07/19/aec-backlash-vote-counting/ Computer experts are warning that close-run battles for Senate seats might end up being decided in the courts, amid concern that the Australian Elect